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4894Re: [BUG] Re: red alarm light will not go off

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  • Robert Vandervoort
    Jul 1, 2013
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      Yes. So if the single shot button doesn't make it pour hold he two shot
      button. If the pump goes on for a but then stops, that is most likely the
      fill going on, especially if no water comes out the group head. That
      would tell me button one is shorted closed. It is a common issue on these
      membrane keypads. You do have it hooked up to a pressurized water source
      correct?
      On Jul 1, 2013 2:52 PM, "jeremywhittlesey" <jeremywhittlesey@...>
      wrote:

      > **
      >
      >
      > ill try that when i get home, I think ive done that before and the red
      > light just stays solid for a second and then goes back to blinking.
      >
      > are there any other ideas if that doesnt do anything?
      >
      > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, Robert Vandervoort <bigrobintx@...>
      > wrote:
      > >
      > > Put it in program mode and hold the single shot button. It should start
      > > the pump. Press it again to stop. This programs shot volume. If it
      > > doesn't then try each of the four shot / short buttons. Let me know
      > > On Jul 1, 2013 11:42 AM, "Jeremy Whittlesey" <jeremywhittlesey@...>
      > > wrote:
      > >
      > > > **
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > When I do the reset procedure (program switch-2 button hold) the pump
      > > > comes on
      > > >
      > > > Jeremy Whittlesey
      > > >
      > > > --------------------------------------------
      > > > On Mon, 7/1/13, Robert Vandervoort <bigrobintx@...> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Subject: Re: [BUG] Re: red alarm light will not go off
      > > > To: BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com
      > > > Date: Monday, July 1, 2013, 5:27 AM
      > > >
      > > > When you hit a button does the pump
      > > > come on?
      > > > On Jun 30, 2013 10:50 PM, "jeremywhittlesey" <jeremywhittlesey@...>
      > > > wrote:
      > > >
      > > > > **
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > nothing happens at all.as soon as i plug it in the red
      > > > light blinks like
      > > > > always. ive run the reset/pump fill procedure and the
      > > > steam wand (from the
      > > > > button panel) countless times. would that still
      > > > indicate the panel is the
      > > > > cause although that worked?
      > > > >
      > > > > after i replaced a faulty cable the only guess i have
      > > > is the group
      > > > > solenoid or the group is plugged or something.
      > > > >
      > > > > is there like a checklist i can go through to determine
      > > > what the problem
      > > > > is? i have tried everything i can think of except for
      > > > throwing new parts in
      > > > > it and/or taking about the group.
      > > > >
      > > > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com,
      > > > Robert Vandervoort <bigrobintx@>
      > > > > wrote:
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Turn it off, unplug the button panel (there is a
      > > > ribbon cable that comes
      > > > > in
      > > > > > from the back side, just unplug it), turn it back
      > > > on, observe behavior...
      > > > > > plug in ribbon cable (leaving it on) observe
      > > > behavior... report.
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 1:36 PM, jeremywhittlesey
      > > > <
      > > > > > jeremywhittlesey@> wrote:
      > > > > >
      > > > > > > **
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > is that expensive? is there a way to test it?
      > > > the buttons themselves
      > > > > look
      > > > > > > barley used - the red button has a tiny bit
      > > > of plastic cracked
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com,
      > > > Robert Vandervoort <bigrobintx@>
      > > > > > > wrote:
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > I think your button pad is toast.
      > > > > > > > On Jun 30, 2013 10:59 AM,
      > > > "jeremywhittlesey" <jeremywhittlesey@>
      > > > > > > > wrote:
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > **
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > well no water comes out when i
      > > > press any of the buttons, however
      > > > > when i
      > > > > > > > > press any one of the four (shot
      > > > program buttons) the red blinking
      > > > > light
      > > > > > > > > kind of stays on a second or so
      > > > longer while the button is being
      > > > > held.
      > > > > > > the
      > > > > > > > > red button makes steam and water
      > > > come out of the steam wand but it
      > > > > > > doesnt
      > > > > > > > > really make a stream of water come
      > > > out of the hot water wand.
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > the black box is referring to the
      > > > computer board where the fuse is
      > > > > - it
      > > > > > > > > seems fine, even the fuze seems
      > > > fine. there werent any black marks
      > > > > on
      > > > > > > the
      > > > > > > > > board or the caps at all.
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > ill look into the pressure stat a
      > > > bit more - i am really starting
      > > > > to
      > > > > > > hate
      > > > > > > > > that red light! i just want my
      > > > first espresso :/
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > thanks for the help - any other
      > > > ideas?
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > how long does it take to fill the
      > > > boiler? i think i did the program
      > > > > > > switch
      > > > > > > > > two button thing a million times.
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com,
      > > > Robert Vandervoort
      > > > > <bigrobintx@>
      > > > > > > > > wrote:
      > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > does each button work? if you
      > > > press button 1, does it start
      > > > > pouring
      > > > > > > > > water?
      > > > > > > > > > button 2, 3, 4 and the last
      > > > one as well? Mine had this same
      > > > > problem
      > > > > > > and
      > > > > > > > > it
      > > > > > > > > > was because the 1 shot button
      > > > was crushed and essentially being
      > > > > > > pushed
      > > > > > > > > all
      > > > > > > > > > the time. I had to make a new
      > > > keypad, but right after, I found a
      > > > > > > place to
      > > > > > > > > > get one.
      > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > also, your hot water wand (cup
      > > > warmer / shower) should blast
      > > > > super
      > > > > > > hot
      > > > > > > > > > water if you crank it open...
      > > > dribble means it's plugged with
      > > > > scale
      > > > > > > no
      > > > > > > > > > doubt. Mine didn't even work
      > > > when I got it.
      > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > On the "black box" I assume
      > > > you mean the pressure stat? located
      > > > > at
      > > > > > > the
      > > > > > > > > back
      > > > > > > > > > right and hooked to the boiler
      > > > and some wires? If I were you I'd
      > > > > pop
      > > > > > > the
      > > > > > > > > > top off that box (with the
      > > > power unplugged) and you can check to
      > > > > see
      > > > > > > if
      > > > > > > > > the
      > > > > > > > > > contacts inside there are
      > > > burned up. mine were and its a common
      > > > > > > issue.
      > > > > > > > > > luckily, most pressurestats
      > > > have 6 terminals, and they are all
      > > > > just
      > > > > > > open
      > > > > > > > > /
      > > > > > > > > > close circuits so you can move
      > > > the set of wires over to the next
      > > > > set
      > > > > > > of
      > > > > > > > > > terminals adjacent. This
      > > > greatly reduced the load my machine put
      > > > > on
      > > > > > > the
      > > > > > > > > > circuit, and in fact the burnt
      > > > set of terminals caused a heat
      > > > > limiter
      > > > > > > > > and a
      > > > > > > > > > wire to fry...
      > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 11:20
      > > > PM, jeremywhittlesey <
      > > > > > > > > > jeremywhittlesey@> wrote:
      > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > **
      > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > I have lightly cleaned my
      > > > new machine and read through the
      > > > > manuals
      > > > > > > etc.
      > > > > > > > > > > but cannot figure out why
      > > > the alarm will not shut off. here is
      > > > > a
      > > > > > > list
      > > > > > > > > of
      > > > > > > > > > > the things ive done:
      > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > I checked the fuse
      > > > (seemed fine) replaced it with a 10amp,
      > > > > evil red
      > > > > > > > > light
      > > > > > > > > > > keeps flashing
      > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > tried the program switch
      > > > two button thing to keep filling the
      > > > > tank
      > > > > > > -
      > > > > > > > > did
      > > > > > > > > > > that a million times, the
      > > > pump seemed to get quite hot so i
      > > > > stopped
      > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > i did turn the heater on
      > > > and got steam out of the steam wand
      > > > > > > (nothing
      > > > > > > > > > > happened when the heater
      > > > was turned off)
      > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > the hot water wand
      > > > dribbled a little hot water (nothing
      > > > > happened
      > > > > > > when
      > > > > > > > > the
      > > > > > > > > > > heater was turned off)
      > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > a little wire connecter
      > > > outside the black box looked fried a
      > > > > tiny
      > > > > > > bit
      > > > > > > > > so i
      > > > > > > > > > > replaced that
      > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > this is getting pretty
      > > > annoying - does anyone have any ideas?
      > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > how long does it take to
      > > > fill the boiler? i think i did the
      > > > > program
      > > > > > > > > switch
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