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Re: [BPQ32] Winmor tail

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  • Mark Taylor
    ... I have not noticed it doing this. Other than the ID and the end I see nothing strange. I ll have to look this afternoon when I get home.
    Message 1 of 12 , Dec 10, 2012
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      > Seem to have an excessive tail after winmor quits. It signs and then
      > has the ptt held up but with no audio for 5-9 seconds.
      >
      > Wimor is the latest version is there some way to release it faster that
      > someone might know about.
      >
      > Jay
      >
      I have not noticed it doing this. Other than the ID and the end I see
      nothing strange. I'll have to look this afternoon when I get home.
    • ws7ik7tj@gmail.com
      Are there just two of us running bpq32 and Winmor that are having this problem ? Sent problem to both John and to Rick KN6KB both with no response in either
      Message 2 of 12 , Dec 31, 2012
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        Are there just two of us running bpq32 and Winmor that are having this problem ? Sent problem to both John and to Rick KN6KB both with no response in either case. Its after the ID that it hangs and winmor catches it after 15 seconds and shuts down PTT. Same exact setup with RMS Express doesn't do it.

        Dedicated soundcard and dedicated port that works with M110 all Ham Radio Deluxe, XP system. Direct serial card to motherboard.

        Also is there any command in bpq32 to over-ride the busy channel ? I happen to have a carrier right in the center of the passband of the channel where this stuff sits. Have to turn off RF gain to get it to work. Squelch doesn't seem to do much in the 1.4.5.0 Winmor.

        Jay WS7I

        --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, D D GABLER Owner <dgabler@...> wrote:
        >
        > It started doing this at about 1.4.1 or so, don't know how to get around it though.
        >
        > Dennis W5DG
        >
        > ----- Original Message -----
        >
        >
        > Seem to have an excessive tail after winmor quits. It signs and then has the ptt held up but with no audio for 5-9 seconds.
        >
        > Wimor is the latest version is there some way to release it faster that someone might know about.
        >
        > Jay
        >
      • Jerry
        Jay. I will watch my system this afternoon and see if I see this happening.. I have been fighting issues where I lose the ability to hear on any of my 18
        Message 3 of 12 , Dec 31, 2012
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          Jay…  I will watch my system this afternoon and see if I see this happening.. I have been fighting issues where I lose  the ability to hear on any of my 18 Ports ie Packet pactor winmor RPR.. and only a reboot fixes it.. Not had time to investigate planned on watching for it again with debug running… today and tomorrow.. I will watch my Winmor ports as well I use mine for both BBS Forwarding and RMS messaging…

           

          I will give you an update…

           

          Happy New Year..

           

          73 jerry

           

          From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ws7ik7tj@...
          Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 12:03 PM
          To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [BPQ32] Re: Winmor tail

           

           

          Are there just two of us running bpq32 and Winmor that are having this problem ? Sent problem to both John and to Rick KN6KB both with no response in either case. Its after the ID that it hangs and winmor catches it after 15 seconds and shuts down PTT. Same exact setup with RMS Express doesn't do it.

          Dedicated soundcard and dedicated port that works with M110 all Ham Radio Deluxe, XP system. Direct serial card to motherboard.

          Also is there any command in bpq32 to over-ride the busy channel ? I happen to have a carrier right in the center of the passband of the channel where this stuff sits. Have to turn off RF gain to get it to work. Squelch doesn't seem to do much in the 1.4.5.0 Winmor.

          Jay WS7I

          --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, D D GABLER Owner <dgabler@...> wrote:
          >
          > It started doing this at about 1.4.1 or so, don't know how to get around it though.
          >
          > Dennis W5DG
          >
          > ----- Original Message -----
          >
          >
          > Seem to have an excessive tail after winmor quits. It signs and then has the ptt held up but with no audio for 5-9 seconds.
          >
          > Wimor is the latest version is there some way to release it faster that someone might know about.
          >
          > Jay
          >

        • Daryll Webb
          I have seen where rf keeps radio keyed, have u tried turning down power out? Buster kg9nd ________________________________ From: ws7ik7tj@gmail.com
          Message 4 of 12 , Dec 31, 2012
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            I have seen where rf keeps radio keyed, have u tried turning down power out?
            Buster kg9nd



            From: "ws7ik7tj@..." <ws7ik7tj@...>
            To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 1:03 PM
            Subject: [BPQ32] Re: Winmor tail

             
            Are there just two of us running bpq32 and Winmor that are having this problem ? Sent problem to both John and to Rick KN6KB both with no response in either case. Its after the ID that it hangs and winmor catches it after 15 seconds and shuts down PTT. Same exact setup with RMS Express doesn't do it.

            Dedicated soundcard and dedicated port that works with M110 all Ham Radio Deluxe, XP system. Direct serial card to motherboard.

            Also is there any command in bpq32 to over-ride the busy channel ? I happen to have a carrier right in the center of the passband of the channel where this stuff sits. Have to turn off RF gain to get it to work. Squelch doesn't seem to do much in the 1.4.5.0 Winmor.

            Jay WS7I

            --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, D D GABLER Owner <dgabler@...> wrote:
            >
            > It started doing this at about 1.4.1 or so, don't know how to get around it though.
            >
            > Dennis W5DG
            >
            > ----- Original Message -----
            >
            >
            > Seem to have an excessive tail after winmor quits. It signs and then has the ptt held up but with no audio for 5-9 seconds.
            >
            > Wimor is the latest version is there some way to release it faster that someone might know about.
            >
            > Jay
            >



          • Jerry
            I do not see any winmor TAIL on my system. It sends the ID at the end and disconnects within a few seconds.. I also am not seeing any deterioration of my ports
            Message 5 of 12 , Dec 31, 2012
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              I do not see any winmor TAIL on my system… It sends the ID at the end and disconnects within a few seconds..

              I also am not seeing any deterioration of my ports like I saw a couple weeks ago.. At that time I had not rebooted or changed a thing in months and the previous 10 days my heard list was unchanged no one heard for 9+ days.. A reboot fixed that.. Maybe running for months without a restart was my issue.. Not sure what to think of the winmor tail.. I will keep watching mine for a couple more days. 73

               

              Happy New Year

               

              From: Jerry [mailto:n9lya@...]
              Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 12:33 PM
              To: 'BPQ32@yahoogroups.com'
              Subject: RE: [BPQ32] Re: Winmor tail

               

              Jay…  I will watch my system this afternoon and see if I see this happening.. I have been fighting issues where I lose  the ability to hear on any of my 18 Ports ie Packet pactor winmor RPR.. and only a reboot fixes it.. Not had time to investigate planned on watching for it again with debug running… today and tomorrow.. I will watch my Winmor ports as well I use mine for both BBS Forwarding and RMS messaging…

               

              I will give you an update…

               

              Happy New Year..

               

              73 jerry

               

              From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ws7ik7tj@...
              Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 12:03 PM
              To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: [BPQ32] Re: Winmor tail

               

               

              Are there just two of us running bpq32 and Winmor that are having this problem ? Sent problem to both John and to Rick KN6KB both with no response in either case. Its after the ID that it hangs and winmor catches it after 15 seconds and shuts down PTT. Same exact setup with RMS Express doesn't do it.

              Dedicated soundcard and dedicated port that works with M110 all Ham Radio Deluxe, XP system. Direct serial card to motherboard.

              Also is there any command in bpq32 to over-ride the busy channel ? I happen to have a carrier right in the center of the passband of the channel where this stuff sits. Have to turn off RF gain to get it to work. Squelch doesn't seem to do much in the 1.4.5.0 Winmor.

              Jay WS7I

              --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, D D GABLER Owner <dgabler@...> wrote:
              >
              > It started doing this at about 1.4.1 or so, don't know how to get around it though.
              >
              > Dennis W5DG
              >
              > ----- Original Message -----
              >
              >
              > Seem to have an excessive tail after winmor quits. It signs and then has the ptt held up but with no audio for 5-9 seconds.
              >
              > Wimor is the latest version is there some way to release it faster that someone might know about.
              >
              > Jay
              >

            • Sergej
              ... +1 more. Same symptom - bpq32 with winmor ver.1.4.4 hold PTT for ~15sec after QSO end or call attempt. Solved by back to Winmor ver. 1.4.1.0 73 & hny
              Message 6 of 12 , Jan 1, 2013
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                > Are there just two of us running bpq32 and Winmor that are having this problem ?

                +1 more.
                Same symptom - bpq32 with winmor ver.1.4.4 hold PTT for ~15sec after
                QSO end or call attempt.

                Solved by back to Winmor ver. 1.4.1.0

                73 & hny
                Sergej
                ut1hzm/uz2hz
              • Dennis Gabler
                This is the only fix I have found too. It seems to have started at 1.4.2.0. Dennis W5DG
                Message 7 of 12 , Jan 1, 2013
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                  This is the only "fix" I have found too. It seems to have started at
                  1.4.2.0.

                  Dennis W5DG

                  On 1/1/2013 3:23 PM, Sergej wrote:
                  > +1 more.
                  > Same symptom - bpq32 with winmor ver.1.4.4 hold PTT for ~15sec after
                  > QSO end or call attempt.
                  >
                  > Solved by back to Winmor ver. 1.4.1.0
                  >
                  > 73 & hny
                  > Sergej
                  > ut1hzm/uz2hz
                  >
                • N9ACQ
                  Serge I also run WINMOR with BPQ but I only use Paclink to drive it, as well as force inbound connections to RMS Packet. I have not experienced the problem you
                  Message 8 of 12 , Jan 1, 2013
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                    Serge

                                    I also run WINMOR with BPQ but I only use Paclink to drive it, as well as force inbound connections to RMS Packet. I have not experienced the problem you are describing.

                    73 Bill

                    N9ACQ

                  • John Wiseman
                    I ve just tried Winmor 1.4.4 From the WINMOR TNC Log: 2013/01/01 21:56:26.73 [1.4.4.0] Send Reply: PTT True 2013/01/01 21:56:28.58 [1.4.4.0] Send Reply: PTT
                    Message 9 of 12 , Jan 1, 2013
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                      I've just tried Winmor 1.4.4
                       
                      From the WINMOR TNC Log:
                       
                      2013/01/01 21:56:26.73 [1.4.4.0] Send Reply: PTT True
                      2013/01/01 21:56:28.58 [1.4.4.0] Send Reply: PTT False
                      2013/01/01 21:56:29.81 [1.4.4.0] Send Reply: NEWSTATE SENDID
                      2013/01/01 21:56:29.88 [1.4.4.0] Send Reply: PTT True
                      2013/01/01 21:56:31.70 [1.4.4.0] Send Reply: PTT False
                      2013/01/01 21:56:31.72 [1.4.4.0] Send Reply: DISCONNECTED
                      2013/01/01 21:56:31.76 [1.4.4.0] Send Reply: PTT True
                      2013/01/01 21:56:31.94 [1.4.4.0] Send Reply: NEWSTATE DISCONNECTED
                      2013/01/01 21:56:44.92 [1.4.4.0] Command Received: BUFFERS
                      2013/01/01 21:56:45.09 [1.4.4.0] Send Reply: BUFFERS 0 0 0 0 0
                      2013/01/01 21:56:45.14 [1.4.4.0] Send Reply: CMD
                      2013/01/01 21:56:46.54 [1.4.4.0] Send Reply: BUSY FALSE
                      2013/01/01 21:56:46.82 [1.4.4.0] [WMInterface.tmrPoll_Tick] PTT Active after 15 sec, Kill PTT
                      2013/01/01 21:56:46.84 [1.4.4.0] Send Reply: PTT False
                       
                      Looks like the TNC is raising PTT after sending the ID, and not dropping it for 15 secs. Obviously this will not affect those using a Signalink, or similar interface with audio-derived PTT, which is maybe why more people haven't reported a problem
                       
                      I've also tried it with CWID enabled (CWID True in the BPQ32 config), and thats sems to cure the problem.
                       
                      I'll email Rick with the details.
                       
                      73, John
                       
                       



                      From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sergej
                      Sent: 01 January 2013 21:24
                      To: bpq32@yahoogroups.com
                      Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Re: Winmor tail

                       

                      > Are there just two of us running bpq32 and Winmor that are having this

                      problem ?

                      +1 more.
                      Same symptom - bpq32 with winmor ver.1.4.4 hold PTT for ~15sec after
                      QSO end or call attempt.

                      Solved by back to Winmor ver. 1.4.1.0

                      73 & hny
                      Sergej
                      ut1hzm/uz2hz
                    • Dennis Gabler
                      This has been there since 1.4.2.2.0, I bought a Signalink so it does not keep the rig keyed after a disconnect. Dennis W5DG
                      Message 10 of 12 , Jan 1, 2013
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                        This has been there since 1.4.2.2.0, I bought a Signalink so it does not keep the rig keyed after a disconnect.

                        Dennis W5DG

                        On 1/1/2013 4:44 PM, John Wiseman wrote:
                        I've just tried Winmor 1.4.4
                         
                        From the WINMOR TNC Log:
                         
                        2013/01/01 21:56:26.73 [1.4.4.0] Send Reply: PTT True
                        2013/01/01 21:56:28.58 [1.4.4.0] Send Reply: PTT False
                        2013/01/01 21:56:29.81 [1.4.4.0] Send Reply: NEWSTATE SENDID
                        2013/01/01 21:56:29.88 [1.4.4.0] Send Reply: PTT True
                        2013/01/01 21:56:31.70 [1.4.4.0] Send Reply: PTT False
                        2013/01/01 21:56:31.72 [1.4.4.0] Send Reply: DISCONNECTED
                        2013/01/01 21:56:31.76 [1.4.4.0] Send Reply: PTT True
                        2013/01/01 21:56:31.94 [1.4.4.0] Send Reply: NEWSTATE DISCONNECTED
                        2013/01/01 21:56:44.92 [1.4.4.0] Command Received: BUFFERS
                        2013/01/01 21:56:45.09 [1.4.4.0] Send Reply: BUFFERS 0 0 0 0 0
                        2013/01/01 21:56:45.14 [1.4.4.0] Send Reply: CMD
                        2013/01/01 21:56:46.54 [1.4.4.0] Send Reply: BUSY FALSE
                        2013/01/01 21:56:46.82 [1.4.4.0] [WMInterface.tmrPoll_Tick] PTT Active after 15 sec, Kill PTT
                        2013/01/01 21:56:46.84 [1.4.4.0] Send Reply: PTT False
                         
                        Looks like the TNC is raising PTT after sending the ID, and not dropping it for 15 secs. Obviously this will not affect those using a Signalink, or similar interface with audio-derived PTT, which is maybe why more people haven't reported a problem
                         
                        I've also tried it with CWID enabled (CWID True in the BPQ32 config), and thats sems to cure the problem.
                         
                        I'll email Rick with the details.
                         
                        73, John
                         
                         



                        From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sergej
                        Sent: 01 January 2013 21:24
                        To: bpq32@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Re: Winmor tail

                         

                        > Are there just two of us running bpq32 and Winmor that are having this problem ?

                        +1 more.
                        Same symptom - bpq32 with winmor ver.1.4.4 hold PTT for ~15sec after
                        QSO end or call attempt.

                        Solved by back to Winmor ver. 1.4.1.0

                        73 & hny
                        Sergej
                        ut1hzm/uz2hz

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