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  • Randy
    I hope the aprs type messages don t start apearing on the let s say normal packet freq s that would destroy a packet node system. with all the beaconing going
    Message 1 of 17 , Feb 1, 2012
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      I hope the aprs type messages don't start apearing on the let's say normal packet freq's
      that would destroy a packet node system. with all the beaconing going out.I think would be great if for sure kept on the APRS Freq.
      kf4cmj
       
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: W6IDS
      Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:18 PM
      Subject: Re: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station

       

      Jeez. . . .every once in a while it becomes apparent the extent of involvement
      you have with some of this stuff, m'man. 
       
      I've got the BPQ APRS thingie working.  Map looks great, lots of activity.  I change
      the filter to 80 miles I think it says.
       
      APRS Messages window has a provision for what appears to be a simple, single line messaging
      editor.  Do I use that for simple "Howdy" messages to a station now, as is, or do I need wait to
      have another VHF radio  connected through an interface like RigBlaster and tuned to 144.390 first?
       
      ---- Original Message -----
      From: Jerry
      Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 11:32 AM
      Subject: RE: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station

       

      I use Ambient Weathers VWS Virtual Weather Station Software and use the wxreport.txt file it generates to send my weather station info thru the BPQ32 APRS System.  On the weather map page you select the file to use.. VWS updates this file at whatever interval you sent in VWS and then you can set the interval that it gets transmitted thru BPQAPRS/ 73

      From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of vk2dot
      Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:59 AM
      To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station

       

      Hi all, Has anybody integrated a home weather station with APRS and BPQ32. Or can direct us to a site for further info.
      Regards rod....///

    • K.O. Higgs
      Yep, I worry about having to deal with that mess too. K.O. n0kfq ... -- K.O. Higgs n0kfq@centurytel.net
      Message 2 of 17 , Feb 1, 2012
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        Yep, I worry about having to deal with that mess too.

        K.O. n0kfq

        On 2/1/2012 12:55 PM, Randy wrote:
         

        I hope the aprs type messages don't start apearing on the let's say normal packet freq's
        that would destroy a packet node system. with all the beaconing going out.I think would be great if for sure kept on the APRS Freq.
        kf4cmj
         
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: W6IDS
        Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:18 PM
        Subject: Re: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station

         

        Jeez. . . .every once in a while it becomes apparent the extent of involvement
        you have with some of this stuff, m'man. 
         
        I've got the BPQ APRS thingie working.  Map looks great, lots of activity.  I change
        the filter to 80 miles I think it says.
         
        APRS Messages window has a provision for what appears to be a simple, single line messaging
        editor.  Do I use that for simple "Howdy" messages to a station now, as is, or do I need wait to
        have another VHF radio  connected through an interface like RigBlaster and tuned to 144.390 first?
         
        ---- Original Message -----
        From: Jerry
        Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 11:32 AM
        Subject: RE: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station

         

        I use Ambient Weathers VWS Virtual Weather Station Software and use the wxreport.txt file it generates to send my weather station info thru the BPQ32 APRS System.  On the weather map page you select the file to use.. VWS updates this file at whatever interval you sent in VWS and then you can set the interval that it gets transmitted thru BPQAPRS/ 73

        From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of vk2dot
        Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:59 AM
        To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station

         

        Hi all, Has anybody integrated a home weather station with APRS and BPQ32. Or can direct us to a site for further info.
        Regards rod....///

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      • Andre
        I doubt you will have much to worry about, 1) APRS works because all the digipeaters are on a single frequentie 2) if someone was to gate the trafic from aprs
        Message 3 of 17 , Feb 1, 2012
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          I doubt you will have much to worry about,
          1) APRS works because all the digipeaters are on a single frequentie
          2) if someone was to gate the trafic from aprs to a lap it will reduce by at least 75% but could be as much as 90% because all the duplicates are filtered out.
          3) if nodes change their beacon to an aprs style beacon it will not add to trafic and the rare aprs message is hardly worth mentioning.

          The only thing you might have to worry about is if someone misconfigured an igate and set it to gate everything from internet to rf but their PA will burn down in a few days if they did and I doubt bpqaprs can be set to reverse gate everything.

          You are better off putting energy into sepparating laps from eachother and from the internode trafic, I remember something about there being a dedicated section in the 1.5 meter band specialy for node interlinking.

          73 Andre PE1RDW
          Op 1-2-2012 20:12, K.O. Higgs schreef:
          Yep, I worry about having to deal with that mess too.

          K.O. n0kfq

          On 2/1/2012 12:55 PM, Randy wrote:
           

          I hope the aprs type messages don't start apearing on the let's say normal packet freq's
          that would destroy a packet node system. with all the beaconing going out.I think would be great if for sure kept on the APRS Freq.
          kf4cmj
           
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: W6IDS
          Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:18 PM
          Subject: Re: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station

           

          Jeez. . . .every once in a while it becomes apparent the extent of involvement
          you have with some of this stuff, m'man. 
           
          I've got the BPQ APRS thingie working.  Map looks great, lots of activity.  I change
          the filter to 80 miles I think it says.
           
          APRS Messages window has a provision for what appears to be a simple, single line messaging
          editor.  Do I use that for simple "Howdy" messages to a station now, as is, or do I need wait to
          have another VHF radio  connected through an interface like RigBlaster and tuned to 144.390 first?
           

        • Bill Erhardt
          Howdy gang, I am planning on checkout Johns APRS Igate and test my WX Station. Good to see others out there giving it a try. Don t forget that there is also
          Message 4 of 17 , Feb 1, 2012
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            Howdy gang,

             

            I am planning on checkout Johns APRS Igate  and test my WX Station.   Good to see others out there giving it a try. 

             

            Don’t forget that there is also APRS Link to send Winlink Messages via APRS to the Winlink System.  You and send and receive about 700 characters ( 10 Lines) on APRS and retrieve Winlink messages from the CMS Servers !!!

             

            Here in Montana we have very little packet activity.  Our APRS system is much more extensive and there are several IGATES/Mountain top Digis out there that will route my Winlink e-mails if we have a localized power, internet, or whatever outage.

             

            Cheers  Bill K7MT

            Http://www.k7mt.com

            Enjoy life! It does have an expiration date! (Thanks Wendy)

          • Jerry
            Relax . It should never happen.. I guess someone could hose up their configuration.. and cause havoc. But let s hope not. If it were to happen we should calmly
            Message 5 of 17 , Feb 1, 2012
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              Relax … It should never happen.. I guess someone could hose up their configuration.. and cause havoc… But let’s hope not…

               

              If it were to happen we should calmly inform them and ask them to correct it..

               

              I am not sure there would be a way to program into BPQ a WAY to make it Impossible..

               

              It’s a lot like all the other things a SYSOP could do wrong, Each Sysop must know what they are doing.. and when something happens or if in doubt they should seek assistance..

               

               

              73 jerry

               

              73 Jerry N9LYA

               

              From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy
              Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 1:56 PM
              To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: Re: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station

               

               

              I hope the aprs type messages don't start apearing on the let's say normal packet freq's

              that would destroy a packet node system. with all the beaconing going out.I think would be great if for sure kept on the APRS Freq.

              kf4cmj

               

              ----- Original Message -----

              From: W6IDS

              Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:18 PM

              Subject: Re: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station

               

               

              Jeez. . . .every once in a while it becomes apparent the extent of involvement

              you have with some of this stuff, m'man. 

               

              I've got the BPQ APRS thingie working.  Map looks great, lots of activity.  I change

              the filter to 80 miles I think it says.

               

              APRS Messages window has a provision for what appears to be a simple, single line messaging

              editor.  Do I use that for simple "Howdy" messages to a station now, as is, or do I need wait to

              have another VHF radio  connected through an interface like RigBlaster and tuned to 144.390 first?

               

              ---- Original Message -----

              From: Jerry

              Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 11:32 AM

              Subject: RE: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station

               

               

              I use Ambient Weathers VWS Virtual Weather Station Software and use the wxreport.txt file it generates to send my weather station info thru the BPQ32 APRS System.  On the weather map page you select the file to use.. VWS updates this file at whatever interval you sent in VWS and then you can set the interval that it gets transmitted thru BPQAPRS/ 73

              From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of vk2dot
              Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:59 AM
              To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station

               

              Hi all, Has anybody integrated a home weather station with APRS and BPQ32. Or can direct us to a site for further info.
              Regards rod....///

            • Bill Erhardt
              Hi Jerry, Yep, I am relaxed. I was just making a point that with APRS you can also get some small winlink messages done with APRS Link. It is totally
              Message 6 of 17 , Feb 1, 2012
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                Hi Jerry,

                 

                Yep, I am relaxed.  I was just making a point that with APRS you can also get some small winlink messages done with APRS Link.  It is totally separate from BPQ32 winlink.

                 

                Cheers Bill

                 

                 

              • Jerry
                I was referring to the post about putting the wrong data on the wrong port.. We should raise awareness.. but I think the way things are configured.. It would
                Message 7 of 17 , Feb 1, 2012
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                  I was referring to the post about putting the wrong data on the wrong port.. We should raise awareness.. but I think the way things are configured.. It would not be likely…

                   

                  Ill check out APRS link.. Thanks jerry

                   

                  From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Erhardt
                  Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 4:12 PM
                  To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: RE: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station

                   

                   

                  Hi Jerry,

                   

                  Yep, I am relaxed.  I was just making a point that with APRS you can also get some small winlink messages done with APRS Link.  It is totally separate from BPQ32 winlink.

                   

                  Cheers Bill

                   

                   

                • Duncan Bray
                  Hi Rod, I run Ambient Virtual Weather Station which generates its own wx data file called wxreport.txt. All you need to do is set the path to it in BPQAprs
                  Message 8 of 17 , Feb 1, 2012
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                    Hi Rod,
                    I run Ambient Virtual Weather Station which generates its own wx data file called wxreport.txt.
                    All you need to do is set the path to it in BPQAprs Basic setup..in my case:
                    Filename C:\vws\data\wxreport.txt BUT treat this path with caution, as  I am using file moving software to place wxreport.txt  in some additional folders on my system.
                    I have been running MB7UEK (An APRS Igate) , using Ui-View for some years and have found that
                    data loss seems to occur when I run BPQ32 and Ui-View simultaneously and read the Wx data from the same file location. (It may be a quirk of my LAN as VWS is not running on the same pc as BPQ32 and Ui-View.) It is an issue that I am still trying to resolve.
                    I have also used other WX software packages, most of which can be setup to generate an APRS compatible  text file. In most cases there is a check box to tick if the APRS file is required.
                    73,
                    Duncan G4MKI/MB7UEK

                    From: vk2dot <vk2dot@...>
                    To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                    Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012, 10:59
                    Subject: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station

                    Hi all, Has anybody integrated a home weather station with APRS and BPQ32. Or can direct us to a site for further info.
                    Regards rod....///




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                  • Duncan Bray
                    Noting Randy s comment: That is precisely why there is far greater restriction on what amateurs can do in the UK. To run an Igate in  the UK you must have a
                    Message 9 of 17 , Feb 1, 2012
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                      Noting Randy's comment:
                      That is precisely why there is far greater restriction on what amateurs can do in the UK.
                      To run an Igate in  the UK you must have a Notice of Variation to your main licence in order to port internet traffic to RF and vice versa.. The NoV stipulates  the frequency of operation 144.800Mhz for unattended APRS operation, and the permitted erp.
                      My station, MB7UEK  can only operate an Igate porting to RF on 144.800MHz, it incidentally raises
                      the question as to whether I should use my Class A call, G4MKI on BPQAprs or my Igate call MB7UEK...time will tell.....
                      73
                      Duncan G4MKI/MB7UEK


                      From: Randy <bryan_randy@...>
                      To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                      Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012, 18:55
                      Subject: Re: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station



                      I hope the aprs type messages don't start apearing on the let's say normal packet freq's
                      that would destroy a packet node system. with all the beaconing going out.I think would be great if for sure kept on the APRS Freq.
                      kf4cmj
                       
                      ----- Original Message -----
                      From: W6IDS
                      Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:18 PM
                      Subject: Re: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station

                       
                      Jeez. . . .every once in a while it becomes apparent the extent of involvement
                      you have with some of this stuff, m'man. 
                       
                      I've got the BPQ APRS thingie working.  Map looks great, lots of activity.  I change
                      the filter to 80 miles I think it says.
                       
                      APRS Messages window has a provision for what appears to be a simple, single line messaging
                      editor.  Do I use that for simple "Howdy" messages to a station now, as is, or do I need wait to
                      have another VHF radio  connected through an interface like RigBlaster and tuned to 144.390 first?
                       
                      ---- Original Message -----
                      From: Jerry
                      Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 11:32 AM
                      Subject: RE: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station

                       
                      I use Ambient Weathers VWS Virtual Weather Station Software and use the wxreport.txt file it generates to send my weather station info thru the BPQ32 APRS System.  On the weather map page you select the file to use.. VWS updates this file at whatever interval you sent in VWS and then you can set the interval that it gets transmitted thru BPQAPRS/ 73
                      From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of vk2dot
                      Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:59 AM
                      To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                      Subject: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station
                       
                      Hi all, Has anybody integrated a home weather station with APRS and BPQ32. Or can direct us to a site for further info.
                      Regards rod....///




                    • kenneth
                      Hi Duncan & All running the Bpqaprs digi under your own call it has to be attended. (max unattended time limit away from the home is 30 minutes)over that it
                      Message 10 of 17 , Feb 2, 2012
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                        Hi Duncan & All
                        running the Bpqaprs digi under your own call it has to be attended.
                        (max unattended time limit away from the home is 30 minutes)over that it has to be closed down.
                        using your mb7 call with ssid running unattended as per the terms of your NOV covers you on Bpqaprs (144.800)
                        i use MB7UFO for normal Aprs 144.800 & igate,MB7UFO-8 with Bpqaprs
                        digi.MB7UFO-QZ is the WHO-RU Aprs Qrz server, MB7UFO-CQ is the Aprs Cqserver.

                        73 de Ken g7vja
                        sysop mb7ufo & gb7cow



                        --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, Duncan Bray <g4mki@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > Noting Randy's comment:
                        > That is precisely why there is far greater restriction on what amateurs can do in the UK.
                        > To run an Igate in  the UK you must have a Notice of Variation to your main licence in order to port internet traffic to RF and vice versa.. The NoV stipulates  the frequency of operation 144.800Mhz for unattended APRS operation, and the permitted erp.
                        > My station, MB7UEK  can only operate an Igate porting to RF on 144.800MHz, it incidentally raises
                        > the question as to whether I should use my Class A call, G4MKI on BPQAprs or my Igate call MB7UEK...time will tell.....
                        > 73
                        > Duncan G4MKI/MB7UEK
                        >
                        >
                        > ________________________________
                        > From: Randy <bryan_randy@...>
                        > To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                        > Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012, 18:55
                        > Subject: Re: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > I hope the aprs type messages don't start apearing
                        > on the let's say normal packet freq's
                        > that would destroy a packet node system. with all the beaconing going out.I
                        > think would be great if for sure kept on the APRS Freq.
                        > kf4cmj
                        >  
                        > ----- Original Message -----
                        > >From: W6IDS
                        > >To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                        > >Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:18 PM
                        > >Subject: Re: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station
                        > >
                        > > 
                        > >Jeez. . . .every once in a while it becomes apparent the extent of involvement
                        > >you have with some of this stuff, m'man. 
                        > > 
                        > >I've got the BPQ APRS thingie working.  Map looks great, lots of activity.  I change
                        > >the filter to 80 miles I think it says.
                        > > 
                        > >APRS Messages window has a provision for what appears to be a simple, single line messaging
                        > >editor.  Do I use that for simple "Howdy" messages to a station now, as is, or do I need wait to
                        > >have another VHF radio  connected through an interface like RigBlaster and tuned to 144.390 first?
                        > > 
                        > >---- Original Message -----
                        > >From: Jerry
                        > >>To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                        > >>Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 11:32 AM
                        > >>Subject: RE: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station
                        > >>
                        > >> 
                        > >>I use Ambient Weathers VWS Virtual Weather Station Software and use the wxreport.txt file it generates to send my weather station info thru the BPQ32 APRS System.  On the weather map page you select the file to use.. VWS updates this file at whatever interval you sent in VWS and then you can set the interval that it gets transmitted thru BPQAPRS/ 73
                        > >>From:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of vk2dot
                        > >>Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:59 AM
                        > >>To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                        > >>Subject: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station
                        > >> 
                        > >>Hi all, Has anybody integrated a home weather station with APRS and BPQ32. Or can direct us to a site for further info.
                        > >>Regards
                        > rod....///
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        >
                      • n9lya@blueriver.net
                        Hi Ken.. In your areas only correct..? Rules here in US are not as stringent.. Please clearify.. 73 jerry n9lya
                        Message 11 of 17 , Feb 2, 2012
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                          Hi Ken.. In your areas only correct..?
                          Rules here in US are not as stringent..

                          Please clearify.. 73 jerry n9lya

                          > Hi Duncan & All
                          > running the Bpqaprs digi under your own call it has to be attended.
                          > (max unattended time limit away from the home is 30 minutes)over that it
                          > has to be closed down.
                          > using your mb7 call with ssid running unattended as per the terms of your
                          > NOV covers you on Bpqaprs (144.800)
                          > i use MB7UFO for normal Aprs 144.800 & igate,MB7UFO-8 with Bpqaprs
                          > digi.MB7UFO-QZ is the WHO-RU Aprs Qrz server, MB7UFO-CQ is the Aprs
                          > Cqserver.
                          >
                          > 73 de Ken g7vja
                          > sysop mb7ufo & gb7cow
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, Duncan Bray <g4mki@...> wrote:
                          >>
                          >> Noting Randy's comment:
                          >> That is precisely why there is far greater restriction on what amateurs
                          >> can do in the UK.
                          >> To run an Igate in  the UK you must have a Notice of Variation to your
                          >> main licence in order to port internet traffic to RF and vice versa..
                          >> The NoV stipulates  the frequency of operation 144.800Mhz for unattended
                          >> APRS operation, and the permitted erp.
                          >> My station, MB7UEK  can only operate an Igate porting to RF on
                          >> 144.800MHz, it incidentally raises
                          >> the question as to whether I should use my Class A call, G4MKI on
                          >> BPQAprs or my Igate call MB7UEK...time will tell.....
                          >> 73
                          >> Duncan G4MKI/MB7UEK
                          >>
                          >>
                          >> ________________________________
                          >> From: Randy <bryan_randy@...>
                          >> To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                          >> Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012, 18:55
                          >> Subject: Re: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station
                          >>
                          >>
                          >>
                          >>
                          >>
                          >>
                          >> I hope the aprs type messages don't start apearing
                          >> on the let's say normal packet freq's
                          >> that would destroy a packet node system. with all the beaconing going
                          >> out.I
                          >> think would be great if for sure kept on the APRS Freq.
                          >> kf4cmj
                          >>  
                          >> ----- Original Message -----
                          >> >From: W6IDS
                          >> >To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                          >> >Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:18 PM
                          >> >Subject: Re: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station
                          >> >
                          >> > 
                          >> >Jeez. . . .every once in a while it becomes apparent the extent of
                          >> involvement
                          >> >you have with some of this stuff, m'man. 
                          >> > 
                          >> >I've got the BPQ APRS thingie working.  Map looks great, lots of
                          >> activity.  I change
                          >> >the filter to 80 miles I think it says.
                          >> > 
                          >> >APRS Messages window has a provision for what appears to be a simple,
                          >> single line messaging
                          >> >editor.  Do I use that for simple "Howdy" messages to a station
                          >> now, as is, or do I need wait to
                          >> >have another VHF radio  connected through an interface like RigBlaster
                          >> and tuned to 144.390 first?
                          >> > 
                          >> >---- Original Message -----
                          >> >From: Jerry
                          >> >>To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                          >> >>Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 11:32 AM
                          >> >>Subject: RE: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station
                          >> >>
                          >> >> 
                          >> >>I use Ambient Weathers VWS Virtual Weather Station Software and use
                          >> the wxreport.txt file it generates to send my weather station info
                          >> thru the BPQ32 APRS System.  On the weather map page you select the
                          >> file to use.. VWS updates this file at whatever interval you sent in
                          >> VWS and then you can set the interval that it gets transmitted thru
                          >> BPQAPRS/ 73
                          >> >>From:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
                          >> Of vk2dot
                          >> >>Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:59 AM
                          >> >>To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                          >> >>Subject: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station
                          >> >> 
                          >> >>Hi all, Has anybody integrated a home weather station with APRS and
                          >> BPQ32. Or can direct us to a site for further info.
                          >> >>Regards
                          >> rod....///
                          >> >
                          >> >
                          >> >
                          >>
                          >
                          >
                          >
                        • Duncan Bray
                          Thanks Ken, Your clarification is greatly appreciated... 73 de Duncan ________________________________ From: kenneth To:
                          Message 12 of 17 , Feb 2, 2012
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                            Thanks Ken,
                            Your clarification is greatly appreciated...

                            73 de Duncan


                            From: kenneth <ken@...>
                            To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                            Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2012, 11:58
                            Subject: [BPQ32] Re: BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station

                            Hi Duncan & All
                            running the Bpqaprs digi under your own call it has to be attended.
                            (max unattended time limit away from the home is 30 minutes)over that it has to be closed down.
                            using your mb7 call with ssid running unattended as per the terms of your NOV covers you on Bpqaprs (144.800)
                            i use MB7UFO for normal Aprs 144.800 & igate,MB7UFO-8 with  Bpqaprs
                            digi.MB7UFO-QZ is the WHO-RU Aprs Qrz server, MB7UFO-CQ is the Aprs Cqserver.

                            73 de Ken g7vja
                            sysop mb7ufo & gb7cow



                            --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, Duncan Bray <g4mki@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > Noting Randy's comment:
                            > That is precisely why there is far greater restriction on what amateurs can do in the UK.
                            > To run an Igate in  the UK you must have a Notice of Variation to your main licence in order to port internet traffic to RF and vice versa.. The NoV stipulates  the frequency of operation 144.800Mhz for unattended APRS operation, and the permitted erp.
                            > My station, MB7UEK  can only operate an Igate porting to RF on 144.800MHz, it incidentally raises
                            > the question as to whether I should use my Class A call, G4MKI on BPQAprs or my Igate call MB7UEK...time will tell.....
                            > 73
                            > Duncan G4MKI/MB7UEK
                            >
                            >
                            > ________________________________
                            >  From: Randy <bryan_randy@...>
                            > To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                            > Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012, 18:55
                            > Subject: Re: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station

                            >

                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > I hope the aprs type messages don't start apearing
                            > on the let's say normal packet freq's
                            > that would destroy a packet node system. with all the beaconing going out.I
                            > think would be great if for sure kept on the APRS Freq.
                            > kf4cmj
                            >  
                            > ----- Original Message -----
                            > >From: W6IDS
                            > >To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                            > >Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:18  PM
                            > >Subject: Re: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx  Station
                            > >
                            > > 
                            > >Jeez. . . .every once in a while it becomes  apparent the extent of involvement
                            > >you have with some of this stuff, m'man. 
                            > > 
                            > >I've got the BPQ APRS thingie working.  Map  looks great, lots of activity.  I change
                            > >the filter to 80 miles I think it  says.
                            > > 
                            > >APRS Messages window has a provision for what  appears to be a simple, single line messaging
                            > >editor.  Do I use that for simple "Howdy"  messages to a station now, as is, or do I need wait to
                            > >have another VHF  radio  connected through an interface like RigBlaster and tuned to  144.390 first?
                            > > 
                            > >---- Original Message -----
                            > >From: Jerry
                            > >>To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                            > >>Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012  11:32 AM
                            > >>Subject: RE: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS &  Wx Station
                            > >>
                            > >> 
                            > >>I use  Ambient Weathers VWS Virtual Weather Station Software and use the  wxreport.txt file it generates to send my weather station info thru the  BPQ32 APRS System.  On the weather map page you select the file to  use.. VWS updates this file at whatever interval you sent in VWS and then  you can set the interval that it gets transmitted thru BPQAPRS/  73
                            > >>From:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com  [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of vk2dot
                            > >>Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:59 AM
                            > >>To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                            > >>Subject: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx  Station
                            > >> 
                            > >>Hi all, Has anybody integrated a home weather station with APRS and  BPQ32. Or can direct us to a site for further info.
                            > >>Regards
                            >    rod....///
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            >




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                          • kenneth
                            Hi Jerry Here in the UK you can run an Aprs digi under your own callsign which must be attended at all times,apart from the 30 minute rule. to run an
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                              Hi Jerry
                              Here in the UK you can run an Aprs digi under your own callsign which must be attended at all times,apart from the 30 minute rule.
                              to run an unattended Aprs Node\Digi you need an NOV with 2 letters
                              IE: mb7uu (first letter after 7 must start with U).
                              although i think the rules have changes since regarding the U.
                              To run a full blown Aprs Igate & Digi at home,you need an NOV
                              were the MB7 Call uses Three letters after the 7.
                              Remote Digi or Igates same as above but must have three shutdown
                              names & phone numbers within 30 minutes travel time of the Node\igate.
                              written permission to use the site & some sites require you to have insurance)
                              My MB7UFO NOV is 12 years old,some of the rules may have changed since then.
                              These rules apply to all the U.K

                              73 de Ken g7vja



                              --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, n9lya@... wrote:
                              >
                              >
                              > Hi Ken.. In your areas only correct..?
                              > Rules here in US are not as stringent..
                              >
                              > Please clearify.. 73 jerry n9lya
                              >
                              > > Hi Duncan & All
                              > > running the Bpqaprs digi under your own call it has to be attended.
                              > > (max unattended time limit away from the home is 30 minutes)over that it
                              > > has to be closed down.
                              > > using your mb7 call with ssid running unattended as per the terms of your
                              > > NOV covers you on Bpqaprs (144.800)
                              > > i use MB7UFO for normal Aprs 144.800 & igate,MB7UFO-8 with Bpqaprs
                              > > digi.MB7UFO-QZ is the WHO-RU Aprs Qrz server, MB7UFO-CQ is the Aprs
                              > > Cqserver.
                              > >
                              > > 73 de Ken g7vja
                              > > sysop mb7ufo & gb7cow
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, Duncan Bray <g4mki@> wrote:
                              > >>
                              > >> Noting Randy's comment:
                              > >> That is precisely why there is far greater restriction on what amateurs
                              > >> can do in the UK.
                              > >> To run an Igate in  the UK you must have a Notice of Variation to your
                              > >> main licence in order to port internet traffic to RF and vice versa..
                              > >> The NoV stipulates  the frequency of operation 144.800Mhz for unattended
                              > >> APRS operation, and the permitted erp.
                              > >> My station, MB7UEK  can only operate an Igate porting to RF on
                              > >> 144.800MHz, it incidentally raises
                              > >> the question as to whether I should use my Class A call, G4MKI on
                              > >> BPQAprs or my Igate call MB7UEK...time will tell.....
                              > >> 73
                              > >> Duncan G4MKI/MB7UEK
                              > >>
                              > >>
                              > >> ________________________________
                              > >> From: Randy <bryan_randy@>
                              > >> To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                              > >> Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012, 18:55
                              > >> Subject: Re: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station
                              > >>
                              > >>
                              > >>
                              > >>
                              > >>
                              > >>
                              > >> I hope the aprs type messages don't start apearing
                              > >> on the let's say normal packet freq's
                              > >> that would destroy a packet node system. with all the beaconing going
                              > >> out.I
                              > >> think would be great if for sure kept on the APRS Freq.
                              > >> kf4cmj
                              > >>  
                              > >> ----- Original Message -----
                              > >> >From: W6IDS
                              > >> >To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                              > >> >Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:18 PM
                              > >> >Subject: Re: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station
                              > >> >
                              > >> > 
                              > >> >Jeez. . . .every once in a while it becomes apparent the extent of
                              > >> involvement
                              > >> >you have with some of this stuff, m'man. 
                              > >> > 
                              > >> >I've got the BPQ APRS thingie working.  Map looks great, lots of
                              > >> activity.  I change
                              > >> >the filter to 80 miles I think it says.
                              > >> > 
                              > >> >APRS Messages window has a provision for what appears to be a simple,
                              > >> single line messaging
                              > >> >editor.  Do I use that for simple "Howdy" messages to a station
                              > >> now, as is, or do I need wait to
                              > >> >have another VHF radio  connected through an interface like RigBlaster
                              > >> and tuned to 144.390 first?
                              > >> > 
                              > >> >---- Original Message -----
                              > >> >From: Jerry
                              > >> >>To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                              > >> >>Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 11:32 AM
                              > >> >>Subject: RE: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station
                              > >> >>
                              > >> >> 
                              > >> >>I use Ambient Weathers VWS Virtual Weather Station Software and use
                              > >> the wxreport.txt file it generates to send my weather station info
                              > >> thru the BPQ32 APRS System.  On the weather map page you select the
                              > >> file to use.. VWS updates this file at whatever interval you sent in
                              > >> VWS and then you can set the interval that it gets transmitted thru
                              > >> BPQAPRS/ 73
                              > >> >>From:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
                              > >> Of vk2dot
                              > >> >>Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:59 AM
                              > >> >>To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                              > >> >>Subject: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station
                              > >> >> 
                              > >> >>Hi all, Has anybody integrated a home weather station with APRS and
                              > >> BPQ32. Or can direct us to a site for further info.
                              > >> >>Regards
                              > >> rod....///
                              > >> >
                              > >> >
                              > >> >
                              > >>
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              >
                            • Jerry
                              Thanks ken.. I had a couple private emails from locals asking if it affected them and I knew it did not.. But thought it would be good to post that here..
                              Message 14 of 17 , Feb 2, 2012
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                                Thanks ken.. I had a couple private emails from locals asking if it affected them and I knew it did not.. But thought it would be good to post that here.. thanks.. jerry

                                 

                                From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kenneth
                                Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 9:26 AM
                                To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                                Subject: [BPQ32] Re: BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station

                                 

                                 

                                Hi Jerry
                                Here in the UK you can run an Aprs digi under your own callsign which must be attended at all times,apart from the 30 minute rule.
                                to run an unattended Aprs Node\Digi you need an NOV with 2 letters
                                IE: mb7uu (first letter after 7 must start with U).
                                although i think the rules have changes since regarding the U.
                                To run a full blown Aprs Igate & Digi at home,you need an NOV
                                were the MB7 Call uses Three letters after the 7.
                                Remote Digi or Igates same as above but must have three shutdown
                                names & phone numbers within 30 minutes travel time of the Node\igate.
                                written permission to use the site & some sites require you to have insurance)
                                My MB7UFO NOV is 12 years old,some of the rules may have changed since then.
                                These rules apply to all the U.K

                                73 de Ken g7vja

                                --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, n9lya@... wrote:
                                >
                                >
                                > Hi Ken.. In your areas only correct..?
                                > Rules here in US are not as stringent..
                                >
                                > Please clearify.. 73 jerry n9lya
                                >
                                > > Hi Duncan & All
                                > > running the Bpqaprs digi under your own call it has to be attended.
                                > > (max unattended time limit away from the home is 30 minutes)over that it
                                > > has to be closed down.
                                > > using your mb7 call with ssid running unattended as per the terms of your
                                > > NOV covers you on Bpqaprs (144.800)
                                > > i use MB7UFO for normal Aprs 144.800 & igate,MB7UFO-8 with Bpqaprs
                                > > digi.MB7UFO-QZ is the WHO-RU Aprs Qrz server, MB7UFO-CQ is the Aprs
                                > > Cqserver.
                                > >
                                > > 73 de Ken g7vja
                                > > sysop mb7ufo & gb7cow
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, Duncan Bray <g4mki@> wrote:
                                > >>
                                > >> Noting Randy's comment:
                                > >> That is precisely why there is far greater restriction on what amateurs
                                > >> can do in the UK.
                                > >> To run an Igate in  the UK you must have a Notice of Variation to your
                                > >> main licence in order to port internet traffic to RF and vice versa..
                                > >> The NoV stipulates  the frequency of operation 144.800Mhz for unattended
                                > >> APRS operation, and the permitted erp.
                                > >> My station, MB7UEK  can only operate an Igate porting to RF on
                                > >> 144.800MHz, it incidentally raises
                                > >> the question as to whether I should use my Class A call, G4MKI on
                                > >> BPQAprs or my Igate call MB7UEK...time will tell.....
                                > >> 73
                                > >> Duncan G4MKI/MB7UEK
                                > >>
                                > >>
                                > >> ________________________________
                                > >> From: Randy <bryan_randy@>
                                > >> To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                                > >> Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012, 18:55
                                > >> Subject: Re: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station
                                > >>
                                > >>
                                > >>
                                > >>
                                > >>
                                > >>
                                > >> I hope the aprs type messages don't start apearing
                                > >> on the let's say normal packet freq's
                                > >> that would destroy a packet node system. with all the beaconing going
                                > >> out.I
                                > >> think would be great if for sure kept on the APRS Freq.
                                > >> kf4cmj
                                > >>  
                                > >> ----- Original Message -----
                                > >> >From: W6IDS
                                > >> >To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                                > >> >Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:18 PM
                                > >> >Subject: Re: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station
                                > >> >
                                > >> > 
                                > >> >Jeez. . . .every once in a while it becomes apparent the extent of
                                > >> involvement
                                > >> >you have with some of this stuff, m'man. 
                                > >> > 
                                > >> >I've got the BPQ APRS thingie working.  Map looks great, lots of
                                > >> activity.  I change
                                > >> >the filter to 80 miles I think it says.
                                > >> > 
                                > >> >APRS Messages window has a provision for what appears to be a simple,
                                > >> single line messaging
                                > >> >editor.  Do I use that for simple "Howdy" messages to a station
                                > >> now, as is, or do I need wait to
                                > >> >have another VHF radio  connected through an interface like RigBlaster
                                > >> and tuned to 144.390 first?
                                > >> > 
                                > >> >---- Original Message -----
                                > >> >From: Jerry
                                > >> >>To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                                > >> >>Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 11:32 AM
                                > >> >>Subject: RE: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station
                                > >> >>
                                > >> >> 
                                > >> >>I use Ambient Weathers VWS Virtual Weather Station Software and use
                                > >> the wxreport.txt file it generates to send my weather station info
                                > >> thru the BPQ32 APRS System.  On the weather map page you select the
                                > >> file to use.. VWS updates this file at whatever interval you sent in
                                > >> VWS and then you can set the interval that it gets transmitted thru
                                > >> BPQAPRS/ 73
                                > >> >>From:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
                                > >> Of vk2dot
                                > >> >>Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:59 AM
                                > >> >>To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                                > >> >>Subject: [BPQ32] BPQ32 APRS & Wx Station
                                > >> >> 
                                > >> >>Hi all, Has anybody integrated a home weather station with APRS and
                                > >> BPQ32. Or can direct us to a site for further info.
                                > >> >>Regards
                                > >> rod....///
                                > >> >
                                > >> >
                                > >> >
                                > >>
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                >

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