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Re: BPQ32 and squelching

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  • la7um
    Jim, please check the oldest ones available. Don t think it was any CD SOFT back then. I think the KPC4 handled 300Baud. Not 200Hz, only VHF standard Shifts.
    Message 1 of 17 , Jul 12, 2011
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      Jim, please check the oldest ones available. Don't think it was any CD SOFT back then. I think the KPC4 handled 300Baud. Not 200Hz, only VHF standard Shifts.

      Need to get home from vacation for any verification.
      Only my grey ones for now.

      73. Finn/LA7UM

      --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, "Jim WU3V" <james@...> wrote:
      >
      > Gentlemen,
      >
      > CD software is a VHF only function in the KAM you must use the PERM command
      > otherwise on a power reset your commands will disappear
      > to the last saved state.
      > In the KAM+ the perm command was replaced with a battery backed up method of
      > memory management.
      > To my recollection the KPC4 was dual port 1200 baud only I have one in for
      > service in my shop and I will verify that
      > it has a pair of TCM3105 decoders and they did not do 300 baud. The RS232
      > connector was male and the reasoning for doing that was not to accidently
      > plug in a rs232 cable into a radio port or reverse.
      >
      > By the way FTDI has a USB to rs232 modul that can make an older tnc capable
      > of being accessed by a USB system.
      > I tested those in a Tiny2 and the KPC4 and they work well. They do not have
      > a 25 pin unit however
      >
      > Jim
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "la7um" <la7um@...>
      > To: <BPQ32@yahoogroups.com>
      > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 6:37 AM
      > Subject: [BPQ32] Re: BPQ32 and squelching
      >
      >
      > > Jerry, I am actually talking both KAM and KPC4 and HF and VHF Packet port
      > > on KAM, but PACKET only, not ITA2 AMTOR which had limited set of
      > > characters. Later an APLINK version of AMTOR came as well, probably due to
      > > making it compatible with VIC and Winlink Classics APLINK just before
      > > Pactor arrived on the scene. Aplink AMTOR supported the full 7bit ascii.
      > > Way more useful than the limited ITA2 set we used before.
      > >
      > > I believe those two loaner boxes both was/is 2.85 or something.
      > >
      > > I also believe that the Host mode came when passing 3.xy or 4.xy
      > > something. The CD SOFT sometime came then.
      > >
      > > I must admit that I did not specifically check HF Packet in relation to CD
      > > SOFT/INTERNAL but believe the commands was symmetrical.
      > >
      > > Only the Baud rate and shifts was different.
      > >
      > > Fine if you can investigate around your old versions now.
      > >
      > > Your findings may be of interest for others as older packet boxes around
      > > now more and more are digged out of the attic.
      > >
      > > 73. Finn/LA7UM
      > >
      > > --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, "Jerry" <n9lya@> wrote:
      > >>
      > >> Are we talking about the KAM on the VHF or HF port. I have some older
      > >> v2.82
      > >> and V 2.95? its 2.9 something Kams I could connect them up to my PC and
      > >> check parameter lists..
      > >>
      > >>
      > >>
      > >> From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
      > >> Mike
      > >> Melnik
      > >> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 8:10 PM
      > >> To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
      > >> Subject: RE: [BPQ32] Re: BPQ32 and squelching
      > >>
      > >>
      > >>
      > >>
      > >>
      > >> Hi Finn
      > >>
      > >> You may be right, the KPC 4 is a nice TNC, have two 1200 Radio Speed
      > >> ports
      > >> and what was the third port 300 BAUD Port I think?
      > >>
      > >> Around 6 years a go I saw two Kantronics 9612 with a extra 1200 BAUD port
      > >> And the High Speed port for sale on EBay for $125.00 I wish now I grabbed
      > >> it, there was some company that made a kit to add a second and third low
      > >> speed port by using the existing Radio port pins, we all know how
      > >> expensive
      > >> Kantronics TNC'S are now, I think my first KPC3 was $99.00 new when I
      > >> bought
      > >> it in 1994.
      > >>
      > >> Mike-N9PMO
      > >>
      > >> -----Original Message-----
      > >> From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
      > >> [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
      > >> Behalf
      > >> Of
      > >> la7um
      > >> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 5:28 PM
      > >> To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
      > >> Subject: [BPQ32] Re: BPQ32 and squelching
      > >>
      > >> Mike. Yes, pretty sure, but I'm on vacation. Have the very old manual at
      > >> home. And recently got a couple of loaner KAM and KPC4 early type. Found
      > >> KISS Ok, (Not XKISS, that was 5.1) but not HOST, and not CD Soft. Don't
      > >> remember the exact version. some 2.xy maybe 82 or 85
      > >>
      > >> I remember back then that I upgraded a lot of times my own original KAM,
      > >> also at a step where I switched the little EEPROM from some 16 # to some
      > >> 24
      > >> # and did mount a Clock battery into the print board socket, and the
      > >> firmware Eprom upon the Clock battery socket.
      > >> This rectangular shaped clock battery did not save the parameters, only
      > >> the
      > >> time, maybe the content of the PBBS (around 25KB), not sure.
      > >>
      > >> This probably was around the time/version when CD SOFT was introduced.
      > >>
      > >> I still needed to burn the EEprom for storing every set of parameters,
      > >> but
      > >> somewhere then both the HostMode and the CD SOFT arrived. Even later
      > >> Pactor
      > >> version 6.0 full of bugs, soon changed to version 6.1. Which worked
      > >> perfect.
      > >>
      > >> Pretty soon after that , the Enhancement board WITH parameter backup
      > >> BATTERY
      > >> arrived and I mounted that and went on into some 6.1, 7.0, 8.0 as Gtor
      > >> arrived as well. No more EEprom.
      > >>
      > >> The KAMe then worked the same way as KAM+ exept lesser PBBS, and no
      > >> continuously variable potmeters as in KAM+.
      > >> Around 100K compared to around 500K in KAM+ I believe.
      > >>
      > >> 73. Finn/LA7UM
      > >>
      > >> --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com> , "Mike
      > >> Melnik" <mmelnik1@> wrote:
      > >> >
      > >> > Finn
      > >> >
      > >> > Are you sure? I had the old KAM without Battery back up, you had to
      > >> > PERM
      > >> all
      > >> > commands and I had CD SOFT in it.
      > >> >
      > >> > Mike-N9PMO
      > >> >
      > >> > -----Original Message-----
      > >> > From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
      > >> [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
      > >> Behalf
      > >> Of
      > >> > la7um
      > >> > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 4:32 PM
      > >> > To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
      > >> > Subject: [BPQ32] Re: BPQ32 and squelching
      > >> >
      > >> > FYI. If your KAM happens to be old, around 2.85 or so, it does not have
      > >> the
      > >> > open squelch option. That came with some later firmware upd.
      > >> > 73 de la7um Finn
      > >> >
      > >> > --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com> , KD6PGI
      > >> <kd6pgi@> wrote:
      > >> > >
      > >> > > I agree...if its anything like the KPC3s...you need to do the CD
      > >> > > SOFTWARE command before putting it into KISS mode.
      > >> > >
      > >> > > Ken KD6PGI
      > >> > >
      > >> > > On 7/10/2011 7:36 AM, John Wiseman wrote:
      > >> > > >
      > >> > > > I think with the KAM you need to set dcd to software before you put
      > >> > > > it
      > >>
      > >> > > > into KISS mode.
      > >> > > > 73,
      > >> > > > John
      > >> > > >
      > >> > > >
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      > >> > > > *From:* BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
      > >> [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com> ] *On
      > >> > > > Behalf Of *don.w9jun
      > >> > > > *Sent:* 10 July 2011 14:14
      > >> > > > *To:* BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
      > >> > > > *Subject:* [BPQ32] Re: BPQ32 and squelching
      > >> > > >
      > >> > > > Thanks, Jim..Wasn't for sure..I am using a kam in kiss mode and
      > >> > > > working on the input volume and squelch
      > >> > > >
      > >> > > > --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
      > >> <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>, "Jim
      > >> > > > WU3V" <james@> wrote:
      > >> > > > >
      > >> > > > > Most tnc's have a dcd circuit, Kantronics does it in software
      > >> > > > > most
      > >> > > > of the
      > >> > > > > TNC2 clones have a dcd state machine in its hardware.
      > >> > > > > Jim
      > >> > > > > Jim Moore WU3V
      > >> > > > > www.wu3v.net
      > >> > > > > m 662-609-9767
      > >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
      > >> > > > > From: "don.w9jun" <don.porter@>
      > >> > > > > To: <BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
      > >> <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>>
      > >> > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 11:32
      > >> > > > > Subject: [BPQ32] BPQ32 and squelching
      > >> > > > >
      > >> > > > >
      > >> > > > > >I remember many years ago that I used to use a tnc with the
      > >> > > > > >squelch
      > >>
      > >> > > > on my
      > >> > > > > >radio off. I believe the tnc command was software dcd or
      > >> > > > > >something
      > >> > > > like
      > >> > > > > >that. How about BPQ with radio squelch off?
      > >> > > > > >
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