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  • Mark Harloff
    Has anyone been able to get BPQ32, AR Cluster and WinFBB32 running on the same machine ? If so, could you share the details on which versions (or releases) of
    Message 1 of 19 , Oct 27, 2006
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      Has anyone been able to get BPQ32, AR Cluster and WinFBB32 running on
      the same machine ?

      If so, could you share the details on which versions (or releases) of
      the programs and various drivers you are running.

      Thanks in advance!

      73, Mark K2CAN
    • John Wiseman
      Hi Mark, I can run ARCluster and WinFBB, although I only do it for testing, rather than running a production system. I use 7.01.35 Alpha of WinFBB, Version
      Message 2 of 19 , Oct 30, 2006
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        Hi Mark,
         
        I can run ARCluster and WinFBB, although I only do it for testing, rather than running a production system.  I use 7.01.35 Alpha of WinFBB, Version 4.09u of BPQ32 and I have 4.4.18 of AR-Cluster. AR-Cluster can only run as BPQ application 1, so you have to run FBB as some other application. This requires using the bpq.dll from the files section of this group, rather than the one provided with winfbb32. I suggest anyone using WinFBB 7.01 uses this replacement, as it fixes other problems with the original.
         
        With the current version, each application can have it's own L2 callsign, but only one can respond to the L4 (Netrom) call BBSCALL. By default this is application 1, but it is possible to change this with the L4APPL command in bpqcfg.txt. Users access the other applications by connecting first to the node, then entering the appropriate command. I am working on a version which will allow each application have it's own L4 call and alias.
         
        Regards,
         
        John
         
        -----Original Message-----
        From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Mark Harloff
        Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 18:03
        To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [BPQ32] BPQ32 ARC and WinFBB32

        Has anyone been able to get BPQ32, AR Cluster and WinFBB32 running on
        the same machine ?

        If so, could you share the details on which versions (or releases) of
        the programs and various drivers you are running.

        Thanks in advance!

        73, Mark K2CAN

      • Mark Harloff
        Hi John, Thanks for the reply. The problem I was having was that when I ran BPQ32 4.09u Rev 3, ARC 4.4.25 and WinFbb32 7.01.35a on the same machine (a 1.8 Gig
        Message 3 of 19 , Oct 30, 2006
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          Hi John,

          Thanks for the reply. The problem I was having was that when I ran BPQ32
          4.09u Rev 3, ARC 4.4.25 and WinFbb32 7.01.35a on the same machine (a 1.8
          Gig P4 running Win XP Pro) the switch would lock up after awhile (not
          sure how long, it varied). The Cluster and the BBS would continue to run
          even though the switch was locked. There was no fault indication from
          the switch code (or the OS), it was just unreachable from a BPQTerminal
          console or either of the ports (serial and telnet) I run.

          I have since moved the BBS off to another machine here and am trying to
          track down the source of the problem by recreating the setup on the P4.
          I'll keep you and group posted as to how that goes.

          Adding the option to have L4 call and alias for each application will be
          a major benefit for folks that run multiple applications on the same
          switch (like me).. Your work is very appreciated!

          73, Mark K2CAN


          John Wiseman wrote:
          >
          >
          > Hi Mark,
          >
          > I can run ARCluster and WinFBB, although I only do it for testing,
          > rather than running a production system. I use 7.01.35 Alpha of WinFBB,
          > Version 4.09u of BPQ32 and I have 4.4.18 of AR-Cluster. AR-Cluster can
          > only run as BPQ application 1, so you have to run FBB as some other
          > application. This requires using the bpq.dll from the files section of
          > this group, rather than the one provided with winfbb32. I suggest anyone
          > using WinFBB 7.01 uses this replacement, as it fixes other problems with
          > the original.
          >
          > With the current version, each application can have it's own L2
          > callsign, but only one can respond to the L4 (Netrom) call BBSCALL. By
          > default this is application 1, but it is possible to change this with
          > the L4APPL command in bpqcfg.txt. Users access the other applications by
          > connecting first to the node, then entering the appropriate command. I
          > am working on a version which will allow each application have it's own
          > L4 call and alias.
          >
          > Regards,
          >
          > John
          >
          >
          > -----Original Message-----
          > *From:* BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com]*On
          > Behalf Of *Mark Harloff
          > *Sent:* Friday, October 27, 2006 18:03
          > *To:* BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
          > *Subject:* [BPQ32] BPQ32 ARC and WinFBB32
          >
          > Has anyone been able to get BPQ32, AR Cluster and WinFBB32 running on
          > the same machine ?
          >
          > If so, could you share the details on which versions (or releases) of
          > the programs and various drivers you are running.
          >
          > Thanks in advance!
          >
          > 73, Mark K2CAN
          >
          >
          >
          >
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        • Mark Harloff
          Hi John and the group, I ve tracked down the problem to what I think is difference in version of the BPQ.DLL and BPQ32.DLL that I have been running here. On
          Message 4 of 19 , Oct 30, 2006
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            Hi John and the group,

            I've tracked down the problem to what I think is difference in version
            of the BPQ.DLL and BPQ32.DLL that I have been running here.

            On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was running Version
            1.0.0.1 of the BPQ.DLL dated 3/29/06. That DLL running on the Win2K Pro
            machine (which works fine) has the same Version number but a different
            creation date.. 3/30/06.

            I assume I need to run the one created on 3/30/06 ?
            (if so, the version number should probably be changed at some point)

            *******************************************************************

            On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was running Version
            4.9.21.2 of the BPQ32.DLL dated 3/13/06. That DLL running on the Win2K
            Pro machine (which works fine) is Version 4.9.21.3 also created on 3/13/06.

            I assume that 4.9.21.3 is the most current version and the one I should
            be running ?

            *******************************************************************

            I'm pretty sure these two dll's are the source of the problem here.

            73, Mark K2CAN


            Mark Harloff wrote:
            >
            >
            > Hi John,
            >
            > Thanks for the reply. The problem I was having was that when I ran BPQ32
            > 4.09u Rev 3, ARC 4.4.25 and WinFbb32 7.01.35a on the same machine (a 1.8
            > Gig P4 running Win XP Pro) the switch would lock up after awhile (not
            > sure how long, it varied). The Cluster and the BBS would continue to run
            > even though the switch was locked. There was no fault indication from
            > the switch code (or the OS), it was just unreachable from a BPQTerminal
            > console or either of the ports (serial and telnet) I run.
            >
            > I have since moved the BBS off to another machine here and am trying to
            > track down the source of the problem by recreating the setup on the P4.
            > I'll keep you and group posted as to how that goes.
            >
            > Adding the option to have L4 call and alias for each application will be
            > a major benefit for folks that run multiple applications on the same
            > switch (like me).. Your work is very appreciated!
            >
            > 73, Mark K2CAN
            >
            > John Wiseman wrote:
            >>
            >>
            >> Hi Mark,
            >>
            >> I can run ARCluster and WinFBB, although I only do it for testing,
            >> rather than running a production system. I use 7.01.35 Alpha of WinFBB,
            >> Version 4.09u of BPQ32 and I have 4.4.18 of AR-Cluster. AR-Cluster can
            >> only run as BPQ application 1, so you have to run FBB as some other
            >> application. This requires using the bpq.dll from the files section of
            >> this group, rather than the one provided with winfbb32. I suggest anyone
            >> using WinFBB 7.01 uses this replacement, as it fixes other problems with
            >> the original.
            >>
            >> With the current version, each application can have it's own L2
            >> callsign, but only one can respond to the L4 (Netrom) call BBSCALL. By
            >> default this is application 1, but it is possible to change this with
            >> the L4APPL command in bpqcfg.txt. Users access the other applications by
            >> connecting first to the node, then entering the appropriate command. I
            >> am working on a version which will allow each application have it's own
            >> L4 call and alias.
            >>
            >> Regards,
            >>
            >> John
            <snip>
          • Mark Harloff
            Hi John and the group, Last night I uprev d both dll s on the P4 to the latest versions (creation dates). That did not solve the lockup problem, in fact, it
            Message 5 of 19 , Oct 31, 2006
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              Hi John and the group,

              Last night I uprev'd both dll's on the P4 to the latest versions
              (creation dates). That did not solve the 'lockup' problem, in fact, it
              made it worse.

              So, for now, I've gone back to the old configuration where BPQ32 and ARC
              are running on the P4 and BPQ32 and WinFBB32 are running on a separate
              machine here. Both machines are linked to the internet via a hub and
              then into a adsl modem.

              73, Mark K2CAN

              Mark Harloff wrote:
              >
              >
              > Hi John and the group,
              >
              > I've tracked down the problem to what I think is difference in version
              > of the BPQ.DLL and BPQ32.DLL that I have been running here.
              >
              > On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was running Version
              > 1.0.0.1 of the BPQ.DLL dated 3/29/06. That DLL running on the Win2K Pro
              > machine (which works fine) has the same Version number but a different
              > creation date.. 3/30/06.
              >
              > I assume I need to run the one created on 3/30/06 ?
              > (if so, the version number should probably be changed at some point)
              >
              > *******************************************************************
              >
              > On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was running Version
              > 4.9.21.2 of the BPQ32.DLL dated 3/13/06. That DLL running on the Win2K
              > Pro machine (which works fine) is Version 4.9.21.3 also created on 3/13/06.
              >
              > I assume that 4.9.21.3 is the most current version and the one I should
              > be running ?
              >
              > *******************************************************************
              >
              > I'm pretty sure these two dll's are the source of the problem here.
              >
              > 73, Mark K2CAN
              >
              > Mark Harloff wrote:
              >>
              >>
              >> Hi John,
              >>
              >> Thanks for the reply. The problem I was having was that when I ran BPQ32
              >> 4.09u Rev 3, ARC 4.4.25 and WinFbb32 7.01.35a on the same machine (a 1.8
              >> Gig P4 running Win XP Pro) the switch would lock up after awhile (not
              >> sure how long, it varied). The Cluster and the BBS would continue to run
              >> even though the switch was locked. There was no fault indication from
              >> the switch code (or the OS), it was just unreachable from a BPQTerminal
              >> console or either of the ports (serial and telnet) I run.
              >>
              >> I have since moved the BBS off to another machine here and am trying to
              >> track down the source of the problem by recreating the setup on the P4.
              >> I'll keep you and group posted as to how that goes.
              >>
              >> Adding the option to have L4 call and alias for each application will be
              >> a major benefit for folks that run multiple applications on the same
              >> switch (like me).. Your work is very appreciated!
              >>
              >> 73, Mark K2CAN
              >>
              >> John Wiseman wrote:
              >>>
              >>>
              >>> Hi Mark,
              >>>
              >>> I can run ARCluster and WinFBB, although I only do it for testing,
              >>> rather than running a production system. I use 7.01.35 Alpha of WinFBB,
              >>> Version 4.09u of BPQ32 and I have 4.4.18 of AR-Cluster. AR-Cluster can
              >>> only run as BPQ application 1, so you have to run FBB as some other
              >>> application. This requires using the bpq.dll from the files section of
              >>> this group, rather than the one provided with winfbb32. I suggest anyone
              >>> using WinFBB 7.01 uses this replacement, as it fixes other problems with
              >>> the original.
              >>>
              >>> With the current version, each application can have it's own L2
              >>> callsign, but only one can respond to the L4 (Netrom) call BBSCALL. By
              >>> default this is application 1, but it is possible to change this with
              >>> the L4APPL command in bpqcfg.txt. Users access the other applications by
              >>> connecting first to the node, then entering the appropriate command. I
              >>> am working on a version which will allow each application have it's own
              >>> L4 call and alias.
              >>>
              >>> Regards,
              >>>
              >>> John
              > <snip>
            • John Wiseman
              Ok, Mark. I wonder if you could try a few things to help track doen the problem? When the switch locks up, it is possible to access it from, for instance,
              Message 6 of 19 , Oct 31, 2006
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                Ok, Mark. I wonder if you could try a few things to help track doen the problem? When the switch locks up, it is possible to access it from, for instance, BPQTerminal?  Is it possible to get a dump from BPQ32 (by typing CTRL/C in the BPQ32 "DOS BOX")? Also could you run DebugView (http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/DebugView.html).  This may display additional debugging information from BPQ.
                 
                 
                Thanks,
                 
                John
                 
                -----Original Message-----
                From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Mark Harloff
                Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 20:21
                To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: Re: [BPQ32] BPQ32 ARC and WinFBB32

                Hi John and the group,

                Last night I uprev'd both dll's on the P4 to the latest versions
                (creation dates). That did not solve the 'lockup' problem, in fact, it
                made it worse.

                So, for now, I've gone back to the old configuration where BPQ32 and ARC
                are running on the P4 and BPQ32 and WinFBB32 are running on a separate
                machine here. Both machines are linked to the internet via a hub and
                then into a adsl modem.

                73, Mark K2CAN

                Mark Harloff wrote:
                >
                >
                > Hi John and the group,
                >
                > I've tracked down the problem to what I think is difference in version
                > of the BPQ.DLL and BPQ32.DLL that I have been running here.
                >
                > On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was running Version
                > 1.0.0.1 of the BPQ.DLL dated 3/29/06. That DLL running on the Win2K Pro
                > machine (which works fine) has the same Version number but a different
                > creation date.. 3/30/06.
                >
                > I assume I need to run the one created on 3/30/06 ?
                > (if so, the version number should probably be changed at some point)
                >
                > ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* *
                >
                > On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was running Version
                > 4.9.21.2 of the BPQ32.DLL dated 3/13/06. That DLL running on the Win2K
                > Pro machine (which works fine) is Version 4.9.21.3 also created on 3/13/06.
                >
                > I assume that 4.9.21.3 is the most current version and the one I should
                > be running ?
                >
                > ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* *
                >
                > I'm pretty sure these two dll's are the source of the problem here.
                >
                > 73, Mark K2CAN
                >
                > Mark Harloff wrote:
                >>
                >>
                >> Hi John,
                >>
                >> Thanks for the reply. The problem I was having was that when I ran BPQ32
                >> 4.09u Rev 3, ARC 4.4.25 and WinFbb32 7.01.35a on the same machine (a 1.8
                >> Gig P4 running Win XP Pro) the switch would lock up after awhile (not
                >> sure how long, it varied). The Cluster and the BBS would continue to run
                >> even though the switch was locked. There was no fault indication from
                >> the switch code (or the OS), it was just unreachable from a BPQTerminal
                >> console or either of the ports (serial and telnet) I run.
                >>
                >> I have since moved the BBS off to another machine here and am trying to
                >> track down the source of the problem by recreating the setup on the P4.
                >> I'll keep you and group posted as to how that goes.
                >>
                >> Adding the option to have L4 call and alias for each application will be
                >> a major benefit for folks that run multiple applications on the same
                >> switch (like me).. Your work is very appreciated!
                >>
                >> 73, Mark K2CAN
                >>
                >> John Wiseman wrote:
                >>>
                >>>
                >>> Hi Mark,
                >>>
                >>> I can run ARCluster and WinFBB, although I only do it for testing,
                >>> rather than running a production system. I use 7.01.35 Alpha of WinFBB,
                >>> Version 4.09u of BPQ32 and I have 4.4.18 of AR-Cluster. AR-Cluster can
                >>> only run as BPQ application 1, so you have to run FBB as some other
                >>> application. This requires using the bpq.dll from the files section of
                >>> this group, rather than the one provided with winfbb32. I suggest anyone
                >>> using WinFBB 7.01 uses this replacement, as it fixes other problems with
                >>> the original.
                >>>
                >>> With the current version, each application can have it's own L2
                >>> callsign, but only one can respond to the L4 (Netrom) call BBSCALL. By
                >>> default this is application 1, but it is possible to change this with
                >>> the L4APPL command in bpqcfg.txt. Users access the other applications by
                >>> connecting first to the node, then entering the appropriate command. I
                >>> am working on a version which will allow each application have it's own
                >>> L4 call and alias.
                >>>
                >>> Regards,
                >>>
                >>> John
                > <snip>

              • Mark Harloff
                Hi John, I just sent you a personel note so this reply may be moot. 1) I cannot access the switch from BPQTerminal at the point where it locks. 2) CTRL/C
                Message 7 of 19 , Oct 31, 2006
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                  Hi John,

                  I just sent you a 'personel' note so this reply may be moot.

                  1) I cannot access the switch from BPQTerminal at the point where it locks.

                  2) CTRL/C does not produce any response since the 'DOS BOX' is not
                  accessible. ALL the boxes are locked up in the system tray at that point.

                  - Mark K2CAN



                  John Wiseman wrote:
                  >
                  >
                  > Ok, Mark. I wonder if you could try a few things to help track doen the
                  > problem? When the switch locks up, it is possible to access it from, for
                  > instance, BPQTerminal? Is it possible to get a dump from BPQ32 (by
                  > typing CTRL/C in the BPQ32 "DOS BOX")? Also could you run DebugView
                  > (http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/DebugView.html
                  > <http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/DebugView.html>). This may
                  > display additional debugging information from BPQ.
                  >
                  >
                  > Thanks,
                  >
                  > John
                  >
                  >
                  > -----Original Message-----
                  > *From:* BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com]*On
                  > Behalf Of *Mark Harloff
                  > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 31, 2006 20:21
                  > *To:* BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                  > *Subject:* Re: [BPQ32] BPQ32 ARC and WinFBB32
                  >
                  > Hi John and the group,
                  >
                  > Last night I uprev'd both dll's on the P4 to the latest versions
                  > (creation dates). That did not solve the 'lockup' problem, in fact, it
                  > made it worse.
                  >
                  > So, for now, I've gone back to the old configuration where BPQ32 and ARC
                  > are running on the P4 and BPQ32 and WinFBB32 are running on a separate
                  > machine here. Both machines are linked to the internet via a hub and
                  > then into a adsl modem.
                  >
                  > 73, Mark K2CAN
                  >
                  > Mark Harloff wrote:
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > Hi John and the group,
                  > >
                  > > I've tracked down the problem to what I think is difference in version
                  > > of the BPQ.DLL and BPQ32.DLL that I have been running here.
                  > >
                  > > On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was running Version
                  > > 1.0.0.1 of the BPQ.DLL dated 3/29/06. That DLL running on the
                  > Win2K Pro
                  > > machine (which works fine) has the same Version number but a different
                  > > creation date.. 3/30/06.
                  > >
                  > > I assume I need to run the one created on 3/30/06 ?
                  > > (if so, the version number should probably be changed at some point)
                  > >
                  > > *******************************************************************
                  > >
                  > > On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was running Version
                  > > 4.9.21.2 of the BPQ32.DLL dated 3/13/06. That DLL running on the Win2K
                  > > Pro machine (which works fine) is Version 4.9.21.3 also created on
                  > 3/13/06.
                  > >
                  > > I assume that 4.9.21.3 is the most current version and the one I
                  > should
                  > > be running ?
                  > >
                  > > *******************************************************************
                  > >
                  > > I'm pretty sure these two dll's are the source of the problem here.
                  > >
                  > > 73, Mark K2CAN
                  > >
                  > > Mark Harloff wrote:
                  > >>
                  > >>
                  > >> Hi John,
                  > >>
                  > >> Thanks for the reply. The problem I was having was that when I
                  > ran BPQ32
                  > >> 4.09u Rev 3, ARC 4.4.25 and WinFbb32 7.01.35a on the same machine
                  > (a 1.8
                  > >> Gig P4 running Win XP Pro) the switch would lock up after awhile (not
                  > >> sure how long, it varied). The Cluster and the BBS would continue
                  > to run
                  > >> even though the switch was locked. There was no fault indication from
                  > >> the switch code (or the OS), it was just unreachable from a
                  > BPQTerminal
                  > >> console or either of the ports (serial and telnet) I run.
                  > >>
                  > >> I have since moved the BBS off to another machine here and am
                  > trying to
                  > >> track down the source of the problem by recreating the setup on
                  > the P4.
                  > >> I'll keep you and group posted as to how that goes.
                  > >>
                  > >> Adding the option to have L4 call and alias for each application
                  > will be
                  > >> a major benefit for folks that run multiple applications on the same
                  > >> switch (like me).. Your work is very appreciated!
                  > >>
                  > >> 73, Mark K2CAN
                  > >>
                  > >> John Wiseman wrote:
                  > >>>
                  > >>>
                  > >>> Hi Mark,
                  > >>>
                  > >>> I can run ARCluster and WinFBB, although I only do it for testing,
                  > >>> rather than running a production system. I use 7.01.35 Alpha of
                  > WinFBB,
                  > >>> Version 4.09u of BPQ32 and I have 4.4.18 of AR-Cluster.
                  > AR-Cluster can
                  > >>> only run as BPQ application 1, so you have to run FBB as some other
                  > >>> application. This requires using the bpq.dll from the files
                  > section of
                  > >>> this group, rather than the one provided with winfbb32. I
                  > suggest anyone
                  > >>> using WinFBB 7.01 uses this replacement, as it fixes other
                  > problems with
                  > >>> the original.
                  > >>>
                  > >>> With the current version, each application can have it's own L2
                  > >>> callsign, but only one can respond to the L4 (Netrom) call
                  > BBSCALL. By
                  > >>> default this is application 1, but it is possible to change this
                  > with
                  > >>> the L4APPL command in bpqcfg.txt. Users access the other
                  > applications by
                  > >>> connecting first to the node, then entering the appropriate
                  > command. I
                  > >>> am working on a version which will allow each application have
                  > it's own
                  > >>> L4 call and alias.
                  > >>>
                  > >>> Regards,
                  > >>>
                  > >>> John
                  > > <snip>
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
                  >
                  > No virus found in this incoming message.
                  > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
                  > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.20/508 - Release Date: 10/31/2006
                  >
                • MIchael Melnik Sr.
                  Mark, K2CAN WinFbb 7.01-35 uses 2 to 4% of processor under normal operation, how ever when forwarding takes place either Telnet or Calls to BPQ for R.F
                  Message 8 of 19 , Nov 1, 2006
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                    Mark, K2CAN
                    WinFbb 7.01-35 uses 2 to 4% of processor under normal operation,
                    how ever when forwarding takes place either Telnet or Calls to BPQ
                    for R.F Forwarding it will peak out at 98% leaving only 2% left
                    for other programs such as your ARC, The BPQ32.dll solves the
                    monitoring of all ports problem, all these operations accuring at
                    one time is more then likely the lock up problem, by using two
                    computers ARC on one and WinFbb on the other is less processor
                    intensive, I don't know if this will help, try changing the
                    compatibilty in WinFbb and Bpq, Right click on the .EXE, Properities
                    I run mine on my Xp at W2K.

                    I am not sure if you are using mutilple AXIP UDP Ports, previous
                    versions of BPQ32 409UBetaMay2006 wont support Multiple UDP Ports
                    You will get a Bad Record Record Error in the Dos Box when Bpq.exe
                    starts up, these are just a couple of thoughts.

                    Mike/N9PMO
                    --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, Mark Harloff <mharloff@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > Hi John,
                    >
                    > I just sent you a 'personel' note so this reply may be moot.
                    >
                    > 1) I cannot access the switch from BPQTerminal at the point where
                    it locks.
                    >
                    > 2) CTRL/C does not produce any response since the 'DOS BOX' is not
                    > accessible. ALL the boxes are locked up in the system tray at that
                    point.
                    >
                    > - Mark K2CAN
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > John Wiseman wrote:
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > Ok, Mark. I wonder if you could try a few things to help track
                    doen the
                    > > problem? When the switch locks up, it is possible to access it
                    from, for
                    > > instance, BPQTerminal? Is it possible to get a dump from BPQ32
                    (by
                    > > typing CTRL/C in the BPQ32 "DOS BOX")? Also could you run
                    DebugView
                    > > (http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/DebugView.html
                    > > <http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/DebugView.html>). This
                    may
                    > > display additional debugging information from BPQ.
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > Thanks,
                    > >
                    > > John
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > -----Original Message-----
                    > > *From:* BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com]
                    *On
                    > > Behalf Of *Mark Harloff
                    > > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 31, 2006 20:21
                    > > *To:* BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                    > > *Subject:* Re: [BPQ32] BPQ32 ARC and WinFBB32
                    > >
                    > > Hi John and the group,
                    > >
                    > > Last night I uprev'd both dll's on the P4 to the latest
                    versions
                    > > (creation dates). That did not solve the 'lockup' problem,
                    in fact, it
                    > > made it worse.
                    > >
                    > > So, for now, I've gone back to the old configuration where
                    BPQ32 and ARC
                    > > are running on the P4 and BPQ32 and WinFBB32 are running on
                    a separate
                    > > machine here. Both machines are linked to the internet via a
                    hub and
                    > > then into a adsl modem.
                    > >
                    > > 73, Mark K2CAN
                    > >
                    > > Mark Harloff wrote:
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > Hi John and the group,
                    > > >
                    > > > I've tracked down the problem to what I think is
                    difference in version
                    > > > of the BPQ.DLL and BPQ32.DLL that I have been running here.
                    > > >
                    > > > On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was
                    running Version
                    > > > 1.0.0.1 of the BPQ.DLL dated 3/29/06. That DLL running on
                    the
                    > > Win2K Pro
                    > > > machine (which works fine) has the same Version number but
                    a different
                    > > > creation date.. 3/30/06.
                    > > >
                    > > > I assume I need to run the one created on 3/30/06 ?
                    > > > (if so, the version number should probably be changed at
                    some point)
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    *******************************************************************
                    > > >
                    > > > On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was
                    running Version
                    > > > 4.9.21.2 of the BPQ32.DLL dated 3/13/06. That DLL running
                    on the Win2K
                    > > > Pro machine (which works fine) is Version 4.9.21.3 also
                    created on
                    > > 3/13/06.
                    > > >
                    > > > I assume that 4.9.21.3 is the most current version and the
                    one I
                    > > should
                    > > > be running ?
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    *******************************************************************
                    > > >
                    > > > I'm pretty sure these two dll's are the source of the
                    problem here.
                    > > >
                    > > > 73, Mark K2CAN
                    > > >
                    > > > Mark Harloff wrote:
                    > > >>
                    > > >>
                    > > >> Hi John,
                    > > >>
                    > > >> Thanks for the reply. The problem I was having was that
                    when I
                    > > ran BPQ32
                    > > >> 4.09u Rev 3, ARC 4.4.25 and WinFbb32 7.01.35a on the same
                    machine
                    > > (a 1.8
                    > > >> Gig P4 running Win XP Pro) the switch would lock up after
                    awhile (not
                    > > >> sure how long, it varied). The Cluster and the BBS would
                    continue
                    > > to run
                    > > >> even though the switch was locked. There was no fault
                    indication from
                    > > >> the switch code (or the OS), it was just unreachable from
                    a
                    > > BPQTerminal
                    > > >> console or either of the ports (serial and telnet) I run.
                    > > >>
                    > > >> I have since moved the BBS off to another machine here
                    and am
                    > > trying to
                    > > >> track down the source of the problem by recreating the
                    setup on
                    > > the P4.
                    > > >> I'll keep you and group posted as to how that goes.
                    > > >>
                    > > >> Adding the option to have L4 call and alias for each
                    application
                    > > will be
                    > > >> a major benefit for folks that run multiple applications
                    on the same
                    > > >> switch (like me).. Your work is very appreciated!
                    > > >>
                    > > >> 73, Mark K2CAN
                    > > >>
                    > > >> John Wiseman wrote:
                    > > >>>
                    > > >>>
                    > > >>> Hi Mark,
                    > > >>>
                    > > >>> I can run ARCluster and WinFBB, although I only do it
                    for testing,
                    > > >>> rather than running a production system. I use 7.01.35
                    Alpha of
                    > > WinFBB,
                    > > >>> Version 4.09u of BPQ32 and I have 4.4.18 of AR-Cluster.
                    > > AR-Cluster can
                    > > >>> only run as BPQ application 1, so you have to run FBB as
                    some other
                    > > >>> application. This requires using the bpq.dll from the
                    files
                    > > section of
                    > > >>> this group, rather than the one provided with winfbb32. I
                    > > suggest anyone
                    > > >>> using WinFBB 7.01 uses this replacement, as it fixes
                    other
                    > > problems with
                    > > >>> the original.
                    > > >>>
                    > > >>> With the current version, each application can have it's
                    own L2
                    > > >>> callsign, but only one can respond to the L4 (Netrom)
                    call
                    > > BBSCALL. By
                    > > >>> default this is application 1, but it is possible to
                    change this
                    > > with
                    > > >>> the L4APPL command in bpqcfg.txt. Users access the other
                    > > applications by
                    > > >>> connecting first to the node, then entering the
                    appropriate
                    > > command. I
                    > > >>> am working on a version which will allow each
                    application have
                    > > it's own
                    > > >>> L4 call and alias.
                    > > >>>
                    > > >>> Regards,
                    > > >>>
                    > > >>> John
                    > > > <snip>
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > -----------------------------------------------------------------
                    -------
                    > >
                    > > No virus found in this incoming message.
                    > > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
                    > > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.20/508 - Release Date:
                    10/31/2006
                    > >
                    >
                  • Mark Harloff
                    Hi Mike, The problem was with the versions of the bpq and bpq32 dlls I was using. I uprev d to the latest versions and that eliminated the lockup problem.
                    Message 9 of 19 , Nov 1, 2006
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                      Hi Mike,

                      The problem was with the versions of the bpq and bpq32 dlls I was using.
                      I uprev'd to the latest versions and that eliminated the lockup problem.

                      There is saturation of the CPU from time to time on All the machines
                      here but that does not affect any one or more of the applications I have
                      running on any of the machines to the extent of locking up the
                      application. It slows them down a bit, but that's all.

                      I run multiple UDP ports on the switch. But, as you mentioned, the
                      newest switch release handles that fine.

                      There is another problem with WinFBB32's telnet dll that I am currently
                      working on tracking down. This is unrelated to the earlier 'lockup'
                      problem. I try to keep the group posted on that.

                      IF you (or anyone else) is running a telnet port for forwarding in
                      WinFBB32 it would help me if you could check the version of the tln.dll
                      you are using and let me know what it is.
                      (right click on the file, left click 'properties' and read the 'version'
                      tab info)

                      Thanks for your suggestions. I appreciate them!

                      - Mark K2CAN


                      MIchael Melnik Sr. wrote:
                      >
                      >
                      > Mark, K2CAN
                      > WinFbb 7.01-35 uses 2 to 4% of processor under normal operation,
                      > how ever when forwarding takes place either Telnet or Calls to BPQ
                      > for R.F Forwarding it will peak out at 98% leaving only 2% left
                      > for other programs such as your ARC, The BPQ32.dll solves the
                      > monitoring of all ports problem, all these operations accuring at
                      > one time is more then likely the lock up problem, by using two
                      > computers ARC on one and WinFbb on the other is less processor
                      > intensive, I don't know if this will help, try changing the
                      > compatibilty in WinFbb and Bpq, Right click on the .EXE, Properities
                      > I run mine on my Xp at W2K.
                      >
                      > I am not sure if you are using mutilple AXIP UDP Ports, previous
                      > versions of BPQ32 409UBetaMay2006 wont support Multiple UDP Ports
                      > You will get a Bad Record Record Error in the Dos Box when Bpq.exe
                      > starts up, these are just a couple of thoughts.
                      >
                      > Mike/N9PMO
                      > --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>, Mark
                      > Harloff <mharloff@...> wrote:
                      >>
                      >> Hi John,
                      >>
                      >> I just sent you a 'personel' note so this reply may be moot.
                      >>
                      >> 1) I cannot access the switch from BPQTerminal at the point where
                      > it locks.
                      >>
                      >> 2) CTRL/C does not produce any response since the 'DOS BOX' is not
                      >> accessible. ALL the boxes are locked up in the system tray at that
                      > point.
                      >>
                      >> - Mark K2CAN
                      >>
                      >>
                      >>
                      >> John Wiseman wrote:
                      >> >
                      >> >
                      >> > Ok, Mark. I wonder if you could try a few things to help track
                      > doen the
                      >> > problem? When the switch locks up, it is possible to access it
                      > from, for
                      >> > instance, BPQTerminal? Is it possible to get a dump from BPQ32
                      > (by
                      >> > typing CTRL/C in the BPQ32 "DOS BOX")? Also could you run
                      > DebugView
                      >> > (http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/DebugView.html
                      > <http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/DebugView.html>
                      >> > <http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/DebugView.html
                      > <http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/DebugView.html>>). This
                      > may
                      >> > display additional debugging information from BPQ.
                      >> >
                      >> >
                      >> > Thanks,
                      >> >
                      >> > John
                      >> >
                      >> >
                      >> > -----Original Message-----
                      >> > *From:* BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
                      > [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>]
                      > *On
                      >> > Behalf Of *Mark Harloff
                      >> > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 31, 2006 20:21
                      >> > *To:* BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
                      >> > *Subject:* Re: [BPQ32] BPQ32 ARC and WinFBB32
                      >> >
                      >> > Hi John and the group,
                      >> >
                      >> > Last night I uprev'd both dll's on the P4 to the latest
                      > versions
                      >> > (creation dates). That did not solve the 'lockup' problem,
                      > in fact, it
                      >> > made it worse.
                      >> >
                      >> > So, for now, I've gone back to the old configuration where
                      > BPQ32 and ARC
                      >> > are running on the P4 and BPQ32 and WinFBB32 are running on
                      > a separate
                      >> > machine here. Both machines are linked to the internet via a
                      > hub and
                      >> > then into a adsl modem.
                      >> >
                      >> > 73, Mark K2CAN
                      >> >
                      >> > Mark Harloff wrote:
                      >> > >
                      >> > >
                      >> > > Hi John and the group,
                      >> > >
                      >> > > I've tracked down the problem to what I think is
                      > difference in version
                      >> > > of the BPQ.DLL and BPQ32.DLL that I have been running here.
                      >> > >
                      >> > > On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was
                      > running Version
                      >> > > 1.0.0.1 of the BPQ.DLL dated 3/29/06. That DLL running on
                      > the
                      >> > Win2K Pro
                      >> > > machine (which works fine) has the same Version number but
                      > a different
                      >> > > creation date.. 3/30/06.
                      >> > >
                      >> > > I assume I need to run the one created on 3/30/06 ?
                      >> > > (if so, the version number should probably be changed at
                      > some point)
                      >> > >
                      >> > >
                      > *******************************************************************
                      >> > >
                      >> > > On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was
                      > running Version
                      >> > > 4.9.21.2 of the BPQ32.DLL dated 3/13/06. That DLL running
                      > on the Win2K
                      >> > > Pro machine (which works fine) is Version 4.9.21.3 also
                      > created on
                      >> > 3/13/06.
                      >> > >
                      >> > > I assume that 4.9.21.3 is the most current version and the
                      > one I
                      >> > should
                      >> > > be running ?
                      >> > >
                      >> > >
                      > *******************************************************************
                      >> > >
                      >> > > I'm pretty sure these two dll's are the source of the
                      > problem here.
                      >> > >
                      >> > > 73, Mark K2CAN
                      >> > >
                      >> > > Mark Harloff wrote:
                      >> > >>
                      >> > >>
                      >> > >> Hi John,
                      >> > >>
                      >> > >> Thanks for the reply. The problem I was having was that
                      > when I
                      >> > ran BPQ32
                      >> > >> 4.09u Rev 3, ARC 4.4.25 and WinFbb32 7.01.35a on the same
                      > machine
                      >> > (a 1.8
                      >> > >> Gig P4 running Win XP Pro) the switch would lock up after
                      > awhile (not
                      >> > >> sure how long, it varied). The Cluster and the BBS would
                      > continue
                      >> > to run
                      >> > >> even though the switch was locked. There was no fault
                      > indication from
                      >> > >> the switch code (or the OS), it was just unreachable from
                      > a
                      >> > BPQTerminal
                      >> > >> console or either of the ports (serial and telnet) I run.
                      >> > >>
                      >> > >> I have since moved the BBS off to another machine here
                      > and am
                      >> > trying to
                      >> > >> track down the source of the problem by recreating the
                      > setup on
                      >> > the P4.
                      >> > >> I'll keep you and group posted as to how that goes.
                      >> > >>
                      >> > >> Adding the option to have L4 call and alias for each
                      > application
                      >> > will be
                      >> > >> a major benefit for folks that run multiple applications
                      > on the same
                      >> > >> switch (like me).. Your work is very appreciated!
                      >> > >>
                      >> > >> 73, Mark K2CAN
                      >> > >>
                      >> > >> John Wiseman wrote:
                      >> > >>>
                      >> > >>>
                      >> > >>> Hi Mark,
                      >> > >>>
                      >> > >>> I can run ARCluster and WinFBB, although I only do it
                      > for testing,
                      >> > >>> rather than running a production system. I use 7.01.35
                      > Alpha of
                      >> > WinFBB,
                      >> > >>> Version 4.09u of BPQ32 and I have 4.4.18 of AR-Cluster.
                      >> > AR-Cluster can
                      >> > >>> only run as BPQ application 1, so you have to run FBB as
                      > some other
                      >> > >>> application. This requires using the bpq.dll from the
                      > files
                      >> > section of
                      >> > >>> this group, rather than the one provided with winfbb32. I
                      >> > suggest anyone
                      >> > >>> using WinFBB 7.01 uses this replacement, as it fixes
                      > other
                      >> > problems with
                      >> > >>> the original.
                      >> > >>>
                      >> > >>> With the current version, each application can have it's
                      > own L2
                      >> > >>> callsign, but only one can respond to the L4 (Netrom)
                      > call
                      >> > BBSCALL. By
                      >> > >>> default this is application 1, but it is possible to
                      > change this
                      >> > with
                      >> > >>> the L4APPL command in bpqcfg.txt. Users access the other
                      >> > applications by
                      >> > >>> connecting first to the node, then entering the
                      > appropriate
                      >> > command. I
                      >> > >>> am working on a version which will allow each
                      > application have
                      >> > it's own
                      >> > >>> L4 call and alias.
                      >> > >>>
                      >> > >>> Regards,
                      >> > >>>
                      >> > >>> John
                      >> > > <snip>
                      >> >
                      >> >
                      >> >
                      >> >
                      >> > ----------------------------------------------------------
                      > -------
                      >> >
                      >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
                      >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
                      >> > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.20/508 - Release Date:
                      > 10/31/2006
                      >> >
                      >>
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
                      >
                      > No virus found in this incoming message.
                      > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
                      > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.21/511 - Release Date: 11/1/2006
                    • MIchael Melnik Sr.
                      Mark, The TLN.dll i am using is may 13 2001, The one that is in the WinFbb20.exe i had a problem with, I set up WinFbb 7.01 Alpha, BPQ32U Beta May 2006 and
                      Message 10 of 19 , Nov 1, 2006
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                        Mark, The TLN.dll i am using is may 13 2001, The one that is in the
                        WinFbb20.exe i had a problem with, I set up WinFbb 7.01 Alpha, BPQ32U
                        Beta May 2006 and AGWPE on Roger, G3LDI machine, He also is using
                        ARC Payed for Version, with RF DX Spots, he also is having the same
                        Problem as you are, On my BBS i use the special Apps. in BPQ for my
                        DX Cluster to Ron's N5IN, i know this wont help you as you have
                        a Running DXC, sorry i can't come up with any other answers with the
                        problem you are having, I am in the process of writing the setup and
                        install instructions for 7.01A, They will be on the BPQ Users Web
                        Site..If you need any .dll's let me know..Mike/N9PMO

                        --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, Mark Harloff <mharloff@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > Hi Mike,
                        >
                        > The problem was with the versions of the bpq and bpq32 dlls I was
                        using.
                        > I uprev'd to the latest versions and that eliminated the lockup
                        problem.
                        >
                        > There is saturation of the CPU from time to time on All the
                        machines
                        > here but that does not affect any one or more of the applications
                        I have
                        > running on any of the machines to the extent of locking up the
                        > application. It slows them down a bit, but that's all.
                        >
                        > I run multiple UDP ports on the switch. But, as you mentioned, the
                        > newest switch release handles that fine.
                        >
                        > There is another problem with WinFBB32's telnet dll that I am
                        currently
                        > working on tracking down. This is unrelated to the earlier 'lockup'
                        > problem. I try to keep the group posted on that.
                        >
                        > IF you (or anyone else) is running a telnet port for forwarding in
                        > WinFBB32 it would help me if you could check the version of the
                        tln.dll
                        > you are using and let me know what it is.
                        > (right click on the file, left click 'properties' and read
                        the 'version'
                        > tab info)
                        >
                        > Thanks for your suggestions. I appreciate them!
                        >
                        > - Mark K2CAN
                        >
                        >
                        > MIchael Melnik Sr. wrote:
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > Mark, K2CAN
                        > > WinFbb 7.01-35 uses 2 to 4% of processor under normal operation,
                        > > how ever when forwarding takes place either Telnet or Calls to
                        BPQ
                        > > for R.F Forwarding it will peak out at 98% leaving only 2% left
                        > > for other programs such as your ARC, The BPQ32.dll solves the
                        > > monitoring of all ports problem, all these operations accuring at
                        > > one time is more then likely the lock up problem, by using two
                        > > computers ARC on one and WinFbb on the other is less processor
                        > > intensive, I don't know if this will help, try changing the
                        > > compatibilty in WinFbb and Bpq, Right click on the .EXE,
                        Properities
                        > > I run mine on my Xp at W2K.
                        > >
                        > > I am not sure if you are using mutilple AXIP UDP Ports, previous
                        > > versions of BPQ32 409UBetaMay2006 wont support Multiple UDP Ports
                        > > You will get a Bad Record Record Error in the Dos Box when
                        Bpq.exe
                        > > starts up, these are just a couple of thoughts.
                        > >
                        > > Mike/N9PMO
                        > > --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>,
                        Mark
                        > > Harloff <mharloff@> wrote:
                        > >>
                        > >> Hi John,
                        > >>
                        > >> I just sent you a 'personel' note so this reply may be moot.
                        > >>
                        > >> 1) I cannot access the switch from BPQTerminal at the point
                        where
                        > > it locks.
                        > >>
                        > >> 2) CTRL/C does not produce any response since the 'DOS BOX' is
                        not
                        > >> accessible. ALL the boxes are locked up in the system tray at
                        that
                        > > point.
                        > >>
                        > >> - Mark K2CAN
                        > >>
                        > >>
                        > >>
                        > >> John Wiseman wrote:
                        > >> >
                        > >> >
                        > >> > Ok, Mark. I wonder if you could try a few things to help track
                        > > doen the
                        > >> > problem? When the switch locks up, it is possible to access it
                        > > from, for
                        > >> > instance, BPQTerminal? Is it possible to get a dump from BPQ32
                        > > (by
                        > >> > typing CTRL/C in the BPQ32 "DOS BOX")? Also could you run
                        > > DebugView
                        > >> > (http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/DebugView.html
                        > > <http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/DebugView.html>
                        > >> > <http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/DebugView.html
                        > > <http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/DebugView.html>>). This
                        > > may
                        > >> > display additional debugging information from BPQ.
                        > >> >
                        > >> >
                        > >> > Thanks,
                        > >> >
                        > >> > John
                        > >> >
                        > >> >
                        > >> > -----Original Message-----
                        > >> > *From:* BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
                        > > [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>]
                        > > *On
                        > >> > Behalf Of *Mark Harloff
                        > >> > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 31, 2006 20:21
                        > >> > *To:* BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
                        > >> > *Subject:* Re: [BPQ32] BPQ32 ARC and WinFBB32
                        > >> >
                        > >> > Hi John and the group,
                        > >> >
                        > >> > Last night I uprev'd both dll's on the P4 to the latest
                        > > versions
                        > >> > (creation dates). That did not solve the 'lockup' problem,
                        > > in fact, it
                        > >> > made it worse.
                        > >> >
                        > >> > So, for now, I've gone back to the old configuration where
                        > > BPQ32 and ARC
                        > >> > are running on the P4 and BPQ32 and WinFBB32 are running on
                        > > a separate
                        > >> > machine here. Both machines are linked to the internet via a
                        > > hub and
                        > >> > then into a adsl modem.
                        > >> >
                        > >> > 73, Mark K2CAN
                        > >> >
                        > >> > Mark Harloff wrote:
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > > Hi John and the group,
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > > I've tracked down the problem to what I think is
                        > > difference in version
                        > >> > > of the BPQ.DLL and BPQ32.DLL that I have been running here.
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > > On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was
                        > > running Version
                        > >> > > 1.0.0.1 of the BPQ.DLL dated 3/29/06. That DLL running on
                        > > the
                        > >> > Win2K Pro
                        > >> > > machine (which works fine) has the same Version number but
                        > > a different
                        > >> > > creation date.. 3/30/06.
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > > I assume I need to run the one created on 3/30/06 ?
                        > >> > > (if so, the version number should probably be changed at
                        > > some point)
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > >
                        > >
                        *******************************************************************
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > > On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was
                        > > running Version
                        > >> > > 4.9.21.2 of the BPQ32.DLL dated 3/13/06. That DLL running
                        > > on the Win2K
                        > >> > > Pro machine (which works fine) is Version 4.9.21.3 also
                        > > created on
                        > >> > 3/13/06.
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > > I assume that 4.9.21.3 is the most current version and the
                        > > one I
                        > >> > should
                        > >> > > be running ?
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > >
                        > >
                        *******************************************************************
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > > I'm pretty sure these two dll's are the source of the
                        > > problem here.
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > > 73, Mark K2CAN
                        > >> > >
                        > >> > > Mark Harloff wrote:
                        > >> > >>
                        > >> > >>
                        > >> > >> Hi John,
                        > >> > >>
                        > >> > >> Thanks for the reply. The problem I was having was that
                        > > when I
                        > >> > ran BPQ32
                        > >> > >> 4.09u Rev 3, ARC 4.4.25 and WinFbb32 7.01.35a on the same
                        > > machine
                        > >> > (a 1.8
                        > >> > >> Gig P4 running Win XP Pro) the switch would lock up after
                        > > awhile (not
                        > >> > >> sure how long, it varied). The Cluster and the BBS would
                        > > continue
                        > >> > to run
                        > >> > >> even though the switch was locked. There was no fault
                        > > indication from
                        > >> > >> the switch code (or the OS), it was just unreachable from
                        > > a
                        > >> > BPQTerminal
                        > >> > >> console or either of the ports (serial and telnet) I run.
                        > >> > >>
                        > >> > >> I have since moved the BBS off to another machine here
                        > > and am
                        > >> > trying to
                        > >> > >> track down the source of the problem by recreating the
                        > > setup on
                        > >> > the P4.
                        > >> > >> I'll keep you and group posted as to how that goes.
                        > >> > >>
                        > >> > >> Adding the option to have L4 call and alias for each
                        > > application
                        > >> > will be
                        > >> > >> a major benefit for folks that run multiple applications
                        > > on the same
                        > >> > >> switch (like me).. Your work is very appreciated!
                        > >> > >>
                        > >> > >> 73, Mark K2CAN
                        > >> > >>
                        > >> > >> John Wiseman wrote:
                        > >> > >>>
                        > >> > >>>
                        > >> > >>> Hi Mark,
                        > >> > >>>
                        > >> > >>> I can run ARCluster and WinFBB, although I only do it
                        > > for testing,
                        > >> > >>> rather than running a production system. I use 7.01.35
                        > > Alpha of
                        > >> > WinFBB,
                        > >> > >>> Version 4.09u of BPQ32 and I have 4.4.18 of AR-Cluster.
                        > >> > AR-Cluster can
                        > >> > >>> only run as BPQ application 1, so you have to run FBB as
                        > > some other
                        > >> > >>> application. This requires using the bpq.dll from the
                        > > files
                        > >> > section of
                        > >> > >>> this group, rather than the one provided with winfbb32. I
                        > >> > suggest anyone
                        > >> > >>> using WinFBB 7.01 uses this replacement, as it fixes
                        > > other
                        > >> > problems with
                        > >> > >>> the original.
                        > >> > >>>
                        > >> > >>> With the current version, each application can have it's
                        > > own L2
                        > >> > >>> callsign, but only one can respond to the L4 (Netrom)
                        > > call
                        > >> > BBSCALL. By
                        > >> > >>> default this is application 1, but it is possible to
                        > > change this
                        > >> > with
                        > >> > >>> the L4APPL command in bpqcfg.txt. Users access the other
                        > >> > applications by
                        > >> > >>> connecting first to the node, then entering the
                        > > appropriate
                        > >> > command. I
                        > >> > >>> am working on a version which will allow each
                        > > application have
                        > >> > it's own
                        > >> > >>> L4 call and alias.
                        > >> > >>>
                        > >> > >>> Regards,
                        > >> > >>>
                        > >> > >>> John
                        > >> > > <snip>
                        > >> >
                        > >> >
                        > >> >
                        > >> >
                        > >> > ----------------------------------------------------------
                        > > -------
                        > >> >
                        > >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
                        > >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
                        > >> > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.20/508 - Release
                        Date:
                        > > 10/31/2006
                        > >> >
                        > >>
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > -----------------------------------------------------------------
                        -------
                        > >
                        > > No virus found in this incoming message.
                        > > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
                        > > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.21/511 - Release Date:
                        11/1/2006
                        >
                      • Mark Harloff
                        Hi Mike, I changed the bpq.dll in WinFBB32 to version 1.6.0.0 and that fixed the tcpip stack problem. Everything is running well now. Thanks for your feedback.
                        Message 11 of 19 , Nov 1, 2006
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                          Hi Mike,

                          I changed the bpq.dll in WinFBB32 to version 1.6.0.0 and that fixed the
                          tcpip stack problem.

                          Everything is running well now.

                          Thanks for your feedback.

                          - Mark K2CAN


                          MIchael Melnik Sr. wrote:
                          >
                          >
                          > Mark, The TLN.dll i am using is may 13 2001, The one that is in the
                          > WinFbb20.exe i had a problem with, I set up WinFbb 7.01 Alpha, BPQ32U
                          > Beta May 2006 and AGWPE on Roger, G3LDI machine, He also is using
                          > ARC Payed for Version, with RF DX Spots, he also is having the same
                          > Problem as you are, On my BBS i use the special Apps. in BPQ for my
                          > DX Cluster to Ron's N5IN, i know this wont help you as you have
                          > a Running DXC, sorry i can't come up with any other answers with the
                          > problem you are having, I am in the process of writing the setup and
                          > install instructions for 7.01A, They will be on the BPQ Users Web
                          > Site..If you need any .dll's let me know..Mike/N9PMO
                          >
                          > --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>, Mark
                          > Harloff <mharloff@...> wrote:
                          >>
                          >> Hi Mike,
                          >>
                          >> The problem was with the versions of the bpq and bpq32 dlls I was
                          > using.
                          >> I uprev'd to the latest versions and that eliminated the lockup
                          > problem.
                          >>
                          >> There is saturation of the CPU from time to time on All the
                          > machines
                          >> here but that does not affect any one or more of the applications
                          > I have
                          >> running on any of the machines to the extent of locking up the
                          >> application. It slows them down a bit, but that's all.
                          >>
                          >> I run multiple UDP ports on the switch. But, as you mentioned, the
                          >> newest switch release handles that fine.
                          >>
                          >> There is another problem with WinFBB32's telnet dll that I am
                          > currently
                          >> working on tracking down. This is unrelated to the earlier 'lockup'
                          >> problem. I try to keep the group posted on that.
                          >>
                          >> IF you (or anyone else) is running a telnet port for forwarding in
                          >> WinFBB32 it would help me if you could check the version of the
                          > tln.dll
                          >> you are using and let me know what it is.
                          >> (right click on the file, left click 'properties' and read
                          > the 'version'
                          >> tab info)
                          >>
                          >> Thanks for your suggestions. I appreciate them!
                          >>
                          >> - Mark K2CAN
                          >>
                          >>
                          >> MIchael Melnik Sr. wrote:
                          >> >
                          >> >
                          >> > Mark, K2CAN
                          >> > WinFbb 7.01-35 uses 2 to 4% of processor under normal operation,
                          >> > how ever when forwarding takes place either Telnet or Calls to
                          > BPQ
                          >> > for R.F Forwarding it will peak out at 98% leaving only 2% left
                          >> > for other programs such as your ARC, The BPQ32.dll solves the
                          >> > monitoring of all ports problem, all these operations accuring at
                          >> > one time is more then likely the lock up problem, by using two
                          >> > computers ARC on one and WinFbb on the other is less processor
                          >> > intensive, I don't know if this will help, try changing the
                          >> > compatibilty in WinFbb and Bpq, Right click on the .EXE,
                          > Properities
                          >> > I run mine on my Xp at W2K.
                          >> >
                          >> > I am not sure if you are using mutilple AXIP UDP Ports, previous
                          >> > versions of BPQ32 409UBetaMay2006 wont support Multiple UDP Ports
                          >> > You will get a Bad Record Record Error in the Dos Box when
                          > Bpq.exe
                          >> > starts up, these are just a couple of thoughts.
                          >> >
                          >> > Mike/N9PMO
                          >> > --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
                          > <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>,
                          > Mark
                          >> > Harloff <mharloff@> wrote:
                          >> >>
                          >> >> Hi John,
                          >> >>
                          >> >> I just sent you a 'personel' note so this reply may be moot.
                          >> >>
                          >> >> 1) I cannot access the switch from BPQTerminal at the point
                          > where
                          >> > it locks.
                          >> >>
                          >> >> 2) CTRL/C does not produce any response since the 'DOS BOX' is
                          > not
                          >> >> accessible. ALL the boxes are locked up in the system tray at
                          > that
                          >> > point.
                          >> >>
                          >> >> - Mark K2CAN
                          >> >>
                          >> >>
                          >> >>
                          >> >> John Wiseman wrote:
                          >> >> >
                          >> >> >
                          >> >> > Ok, Mark. I wonder if you could try a few things to help track
                          >> > doen the
                          >> >> > problem? When the switch locks up, it is possible to access it
                          >> > from, for
                          >> >> > instance, BPQTerminal? Is it possible to get a dump from BPQ32
                          >> > (by
                          >> >> > typing CTRL/C in the BPQ32 "DOS BOX")? Also could you run
                          >> > DebugView
                          >> >> > (http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/DebugView.html
                          > <http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/DebugView.html>
                          >> > <http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/DebugView.html
                          > <http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/DebugView.html>>
                          >> >> > <http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/DebugView.html
                          > <http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/DebugView.html>
                          >> > <http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/DebugView.html
                          > <http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/DebugView.html>>>). This
                          >> > may
                          >> >> > display additional debugging information from BPQ.
                          >> >> >
                          >> >> >
                          >> >> > Thanks,
                          >> >> >
                          >> >> > John
                          >> >> >
                          >> >> >
                          >> >> > -----Original Message-----
                          >> >> > *From:* BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
                          > <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
                          >> > [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
                          > <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>]
                          >> > *On
                          >> >> > Behalf Of *Mark Harloff
                          >> >> > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 31, 2006 20:21
                          >> >> > *To:* BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
                          > <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
                          >> >> > *Subject:* Re: [BPQ32] BPQ32 ARC and WinFBB32
                          >> >> >
                          >> >> > Hi John and the group,
                          >> >> >
                          >> >> > Last night I uprev'd both dll's on the P4 to the latest
                          >> > versions
                          >> >> > (creation dates). That did not solve the 'lockup' problem,
                          >> > in fact, it
                          >> >> > made it worse.
                          >> >> >
                          >> >> > So, for now, I've gone back to the old configuration where
                          >> > BPQ32 and ARC
                          >> >> > are running on the P4 and BPQ32 and WinFBB32 are running on
                          >> > a separate
                          >> >> > machine here. Both machines are linked to the internet via a
                          >> > hub and
                          >> >> > then into a adsl modem.
                          >> >> >
                          >> >> > 73, Mark K2CAN
                          >> >> >
                          >> >> > Mark Harloff wrote:
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > > Hi John and the group,
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > > I've tracked down the problem to what I think is
                          >> > difference in version
                          >> >> > > of the BPQ.DLL and BPQ32.DLL that I have been running here.
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > > On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was
                          >> > running Version
                          >> >> > > 1.0.0.1 of the BPQ.DLL dated 3/29/06. That DLL running on
                          >> > the
                          >> >> > Win2K Pro
                          >> >> > > machine (which works fine) has the same Version number but
                          >> > a different
                          >> >> > > creation date.. 3/30/06.
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > > I assume I need to run the one created on 3/30/06 ?
                          >> >> > > (if so, the version number should probably be changed at
                          >> > some point)
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >
                          > *******************************************************************
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > > On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was
                          >> > running Version
                          >> >> > > 4.9.21.2 of the BPQ32.DLL dated 3/13/06. That DLL running
                          >> > on the Win2K
                          >> >> > > Pro machine (which works fine) is Version 4.9.21.3 also
                          >> > created on
                          >> >> > 3/13/06.
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > > I assume that 4.9.21.3 is the most current version and the
                          >> > one I
                          >> >> > should
                          >> >> > > be running ?
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >
                          > *******************************************************************
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > > I'm pretty sure these two dll's are the source of the
                          >> > problem here.
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > > 73, Mark K2CAN
                          >> >> > >
                          >> >> > > Mark Harloff wrote:
                          >> >> > >>
                          >> >> > >>
                          >> >> > >> Hi John,
                          >> >> > >>
                          >> >> > >> Thanks for the reply. The problem I was having was that
                          >> > when I
                          >> >> > ran BPQ32
                          >> >> > >> 4.09u Rev 3, ARC 4.4.25 and WinFbb32 7.01.35a on the same
                          >> > machine
                          >> >> > (a 1.8
                          >> >> > >> Gig P4 running Win XP Pro) the switch would lock up after
                          >> > awhile (not
                          >> >> > >> sure how long, it varied). The Cluster and the BBS would
                          >> > continue
                          >> >> > to run
                          >> >> > >> even though the switch was locked. There was no fault
                          >> > indication from
                          >> >> > >> the switch code (or the OS), it was just unreachable from
                          >> > a
                          >> >> > BPQTerminal
                          >> >> > >> console or either of the ports (serial and telnet) I run.
                          >> >> > >>
                          >> >> > >> I have since moved the BBS off to another machine here
                          >> > and am
                          >> >> > trying to
                          >> >> > >> track down the source of the problem by recreating the
                          >> > setup on
                          >> >> > the P4.
                          >> >> > >> I'll keep you and group posted as to how that goes.
                          >> >> > >>
                          >> >> > >> Adding the option to have L4 call and alias for each
                          >> > application
                          >> >> > will be
                          >> >> > >> a major benefit for folks that run multiple applications
                          >> > on the same
                          >> >> > >> switch (like me).. Your work is very appreciated!
                          >> >> > >>
                          >> >> > >> 73, Mark K2CAN
                          >> >> > >>
                          >> >> > >> John Wiseman wrote:
                          >> >> > >>>
                          >> >> > >>>
                          >> >> > >>> Hi Mark,
                          >> >> > >>>
                          >> >> > >>> I can run ARCluster and WinFBB, although I only do it
                          >> > for testing,
                          >> >> > >>> rather than running a production system. I use 7.01.35
                          >> > Alpha of
                          >> >> > WinFBB,
                          >> >> > >>> Version 4.09u of BPQ32 and I have 4.4.18 of AR-Cluster.
                          >> >> > AR-Cluster can
                          >> >> > >>> only run as BPQ application 1, so you have to run FBB as
                          >> > some other
                          >> >> > >>> application. This requires using the bpq.dll from the
                          >> > files
                          >> >> > section of
                          >> >> > >>> this group, rather than the one provided with winfbb32. I
                          >> >> > suggest anyone
                          >> >> > >>> using WinFBB 7.01 uses this replacement, as it fixes
                          >> > other
                          >> >> > problems with
                          >> >> > >>> the original.
                          >> >> > >>>
                          >> >> > >>> With the current version, each application can have it's
                          >> > own L2
                          >> >> > >>> callsign, but only one can respond to the L4 (Netrom)
                          >> > call
                          >> >> > BBSCALL. By
                          >> >> > >>> default this is application 1, but it is possible to
                          >> > change this
                          >> >> > with
                          >> >> > >>> the L4APPL command in bpqcfg.txt. Users access the other
                          >> >> > applications by
                          >> >> > >>> connecting first to the node, then entering the
                          >> > appropriate
                          >> >> > command. I
                          >> >> > >>> am working on a version which will allow each
                          >> > application have
                          >> >> > it's own
                          >> >> > >>> L4 call and alias.
                          >> >> > >>>
                          >> >> > >>> Regards,
                          >> >> > >>>
                          >> >> > >>> John
                          >> >> > > <snip>
                          >> >> >
                          >> >> >
                          >> >> >
                          >> >> >
                          >> >> > ----------------------------------------------------------
                          >> > -------
                          >> >> >
                          >> >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
                          >> >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
                          >> >> > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.20/508 - Release
                          > Date:
                          >> > 10/31/2006
                          >> >> >
                          >> >>
                          >> >
                          >> >
                          >> >
                          >> >
                          >> > ----------------------------------------------------------
                          > -------
                          >> >
                          >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
                          >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
                          >> > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.21/511 - Release Date:
                          > 11/1/2006
                          >>
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
                          >
                          > No virus found in this incoming message.
                          > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
                          > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.21/511 - Release Date: 11/1/2006
                        • Roger Cooke
                          Been reading the problems Mark has been having. I had the same here, and never did solve them. In the end I gave in and I now run BPQ32 and FBB32 on one
                          Message 12 of 19 , Nov 3, 2006
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                            Been reading the problems Mark has been having. I had the same here, and never
                            did solve them. In the end I gave in and I now run BPQ32 and FBB32 on one machine
                            and AR-Cluster with BPQ32 and my Satgate on another machine. The BBS machine
                            talks to the Cluster via an AXIP link. Everything works fine now, with one or two minor
                            problems with FBB.
                              Mike, N9PMO, was a great help and we had a few headaches on the way! If only
                            there was an FBB32 reflector, it might have helped.   It is disappointing that the new
                            32 bit version does not support some of the add-ons that I ran in the 16 bit version, as
                            they were very useful. If only I was talented enough to write programs!
                             
                            Regards from Roger, G3LDI
                            Swardeston, Norfolk.


                            ----- Original Message ----
                            From: Mark Harloff <mharloff@...>
                            To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                            Sent: Monday, 30 October, 2006 11:30:22 PM
                            Subject: Re: [BPQ32] BPQ32 ARC and WinFBB32

                            Hi John and the group,

                            I've tracked down the problem to what I think is difference in version
                            of the BPQ.DLL and BPQ32.DLL that I have been running here.

                            On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was running Version
                            1.0.0.1 of the BPQ.DLL dated 3/29/06. That DLL running on the Win2K Pro
                            machine (which works fine) has the same Version number but a different
                            creation date.. 3/30/06.

                            I assume I need to run the one created on 3/30/06 ?
                            (if so, the version number should probably be changed at some point)

                            ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* *

                            On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was running Version
                            4.9.21.2 of the BPQ32.DLL dated 3/13/06. That DLL running on the Win2K
                            Pro machine (which works fine) is Version 4.9.21.3 also created on 3/13/06.

                            I assume that 4.9.21.3 is the most current version and the one I should
                            be running ?

                            ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* *

                            I'm pretty sure these two dll's are the source of the problem here.

                            73, Mark K2CAN

                            Mark Harloff wrote:

                            >
                            >
                            > Hi John,
                            >
                            > Thanks for the reply. The problem I was having was that when I ran BPQ32
                            > 4.09u Rev 3, ARC 4.4.25 and WinFbb32 7.01.35a on the same machine (a 1.8
                            > Gig P4 running Win XP Pro) the switch would lock up after awhile (not
                            > sure how long, it varied). The Cluster and the BBS would continue to run
                            > even though the switch was locked. There was no fault indication from
                            > the switch code (or the OS), it was just unreachable from a BPQTerminal
                            > console or either of the ports (serial and telnet) I run.
                            >
                            > I have since moved the BBS off to another machine here and am trying to
                            > track down the source of the problem by recreating the setup on the P4.
                            > I'll keep you and group posted as to how that goes.
                            >
                            > Adding the option to have L4 call and alias for each application will be
                            > a major benefit for folks that run multiple applications on the same
                            > switch (like me).. Your work is very appreciated!
                            >
                            > 73, Mark K2CAN
                            >
                            > John Wiseman wrote:
                            >>
                            >>
                            >> Hi Mark,
                            >>
                            >> I can run ARCluster and WinFBB, although I only do it for testing,
                            >> rather than running a production system. I use 7.01.35 Alpha of WinFBB,
                            >> Version 4.09u of BPQ32 and I have 4.4.18 of AR-Cluster. AR-Cluster can
                            >> only run as BPQ application 1, so you have to run FBB as some other
                            >> application. This requires using the bpq.dll from the files section of
                            >> this group, rather than the one provided with winfbb32. I suggest anyone
                            >> using WinFBB 7.01 uses this replacement, as it fixes other problems with
                            >> the original.
                            >>
                            >> With the current version, each application can have it's own L2
                            >> callsign, but only one can respond to the L4 (Netrom) call BBSCALL. By
                            >> default this is application 1, but it is possible to change this with
                            >> the L4APPL command in bpqcfg.txt. Users access the other applications by
                            >> connecting first to the node, then entering the appropriate command. I
                            >> am working on a version which will allow each application have it's own
                            >> L4 call and alias.
                            >>
                            >> Regards,
                            >>
                            >> John
                            <snip>




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                          • MIchael Melnik Sr.
                            Mark, K2CAN I did send Roger your .dll s and he has replaced them, he will let us know if it solves his problems as well, Thanks Mike/N9PMO ... here, and never
                            Message 13 of 19 , Nov 3, 2006
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                              Mark, K2CAN
                              I did send Roger your .dll's and he has replaced them,
                              he will let us know if it solves his problems as well,
                              Thanks Mike/N9PMO
                              --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, Roger Cooke <g3ldi@...> wrote:
                              >
                              > Been reading the problems Mark has been having. I had the same
                              here, and never
                              > did solve them. In the end I gave in and I now run BPQ32 and FBB32
                              on one machine
                              > and AR-Cluster with BPQ32 and my Satgate on another machine. The
                              BBS machine
                              > talks to the Cluster via an AXIP link. Everything works fine now,
                              with one or two minor
                              > problems with FBB.
                              > Mike, N9PMO, was a great help and we had a few headaches on the
                              way! If only
                              > there was an FBB32 reflector, it might have helped. It is
                              disappointing that the new
                              > 32 bit version does not support some of the add-ons that I ran in
                              the 16 bit version, as
                              > they were very useful. If only I was talented enough to write
                              programs!
                              >
                              > Regards from Roger, G3LDI
                              > Swardeston, Norfolk.
                              >
                              >
                              > ----- Original Message ----
                              > From: Mark Harloff <mharloff@...>
                              > To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                              > Sent: Monday, 30 October, 2006 11:30:22 PM
                              > Subject: Re: [BPQ32] BPQ32 ARC and WinFBB32
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > Hi John and the group,
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > I've tracked down the problem to what I think is difference in
                              version
                              >
                              > of the BPQ.DLL and BPQ32.DLL that I have been running here.
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was running
                              Version
                              >
                              > 1.0.0.1 of the BPQ.DLL dated 3/29/06. That DLL running on the
                              Win2K Pro
                              >
                              > machine (which works fine) has the same Version number but a
                              different
                              >
                              > creation date.. 3/30/06.
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > I assume I need to run the one created on 3/30/06 ?
                              >
                              > (if so, the version number should probably be changed at some
                              point)
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *********
                              ********* *
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was running
                              Version
                              >
                              > 4.9.21.2 of the BPQ32.DLL dated 3/13/06. That DLL running on the
                              Win2K
                              >
                              > Pro machine (which works fine) is Version 4.9.21.3 also created on
                              3/13/06.
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > I assume that 4.9.21.3 is the most current version and the one I
                              should
                              >
                              > be running ?
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *********
                              ********* *
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > I'm pretty sure these two dll's are the source of the problem here.
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > 73, Mark K2CAN
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > Mark Harloff wrote:
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > Hi John,
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > Thanks for the reply. The problem I was having was that when I
                              ran BPQ32
                              >
                              > > 4.09u Rev 3, ARC 4.4.25 and WinFbb32 7.01.35a on the same
                              machine (a 1.8
                              >
                              > > Gig P4 running Win XP Pro) the switch would lock up after awhile
                              (not
                              >
                              > > sure how long, it varied). The Cluster and the BBS would
                              continue to run
                              >
                              > > even though the switch was locked. There was no fault indication
                              from
                              >
                              > > the switch code (or the OS), it was just unreachable from a
                              BPQTerminal
                              >
                              > > console or either of the ports (serial and telnet) I run.
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > I have since moved the BBS off to another machine here and am
                              trying to
                              >
                              > > track down the source of the problem by recreating the setup on
                              the P4.
                              >
                              > > I'll keep you and group posted as to how that goes.
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > Adding the option to have L4 call and alias for each application
                              will be
                              >
                              > > a major benefit for folks that run multiple applications on the
                              same
                              >
                              > > switch (like me).. Your work is very appreciated!
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > 73, Mark K2CAN
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > John Wiseman wrote:
                              >
                              > >>
                              >
                              > >>
                              >
                              > >> Hi Mark,
                              >
                              > >>
                              >
                              > >> I can run ARCluster and WinFBB, although I only do it for
                              testing,
                              >
                              > >> rather than running a production system. I use 7.01.35 Alpha of
                              WinFBB,
                              >
                              > >> Version 4.09u of BPQ32 and I have 4.4.18 of AR-Cluster. AR-
                              Cluster can
                              >
                              > >> only run as BPQ application 1, so you have to run FBB as some
                              other
                              >
                              > >> application. This requires using the bpq.dll from the files
                              section of
                              >
                              > >> this group, rather than the one provided with winfbb32. I
                              suggest anyone
                              >
                              > >> using WinFBB 7.01 uses this replacement, as it fixes other
                              problems with
                              >
                              > >> the original.
                              >
                              > >>
                              >
                              > >> With the current version, each application can have it's own L2
                              >
                              > >> callsign, but only one can respond to the L4 (Netrom) call
                              BBSCALL. By
                              >
                              > >> default this is application 1, but it is possible to change
                              this with
                              >
                              > >> the L4APPL command in bpqcfg.txt. Users access the other
                              applications by
                              >
                              > >> connecting first to the node, then entering the appropriate
                              command. I
                              >
                              > >> am working on a version which will allow each application have
                              it's own
                              >
                              > >> L4 call and alias.
                              >
                              > >>
                              >
                              > >> Regards,
                              >
                              > >>
                              >
                              > >> John
                              >
                              > <snip>
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                            • Mark Harloff
                              Ok Mike, sounds good. They should fix his problem, assuming it is identical to the one(s) I had. - Mark K2CAN
                              Message 14 of 19 , Nov 3, 2006
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                                Ok Mike, sounds good.

                                They should fix his problem, assuming it is identical to the one(s) I had.

                                - Mark K2CAN


                                MIchael Melnik Sr. wrote:
                                >
                                >
                                > Mark, K2CAN
                                > I did send Roger your .dll's and he has replaced them,
                                > he will let us know if it solves his problems as well,
                                > Thanks Mike/N9PMO
                                > --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>, Roger
                                > Cooke <g3ldi@...> wrote:
                                >>
                                >> Been reading the problems Mark has been having. I had the same
                                > here, and never
                                >> did solve them. In the end I gave in and I now run BPQ32 and FBB32
                                > on one machine
                                >> and AR-Cluster with BPQ32 and my Satgate on another machine. The
                                > BBS machine
                                >> talks to the Cluster via an AXIP link. Everything works fine now,
                                > with one or two minor
                                >> problems with FBB.
                                >> Mike, N9PMO, was a great help and we had a few headaches on the
                                > way! If only
                                >> there was an FBB32 reflector, it might have helped. It is
                                > disappointing that the new
                                >> 32 bit version does not support some of the add-ons that I ran in
                                > the 16 bit version, as
                                >> they were very useful. If only I was talented enough to write
                                > programs!
                                >>
                                >> Regards from Roger, G3LDI
                                >> Swardeston, Norfolk.
                                >>
                                >>
                                >> ----- Original Message ----
                                >> From: Mark Harloff <mharloff@...>
                                >> To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
                                >> Sent: Monday, 30 October, 2006 11:30:22 PM
                                >> Subject: Re: [BPQ32] BPQ32 ARC and WinFBB32
                                >>
                                >>
                                >>
                                >>
                                >>
                                >>
                                >>
                                >>
                                >>
                                >>
                                >>
                                >>
                                >>
                                >> Hi John and the group,
                                >>
                                >>
                                >>
                                >> I've tracked down the problem to what I think is difference in
                                > version
                                >>
                                >> of the BPQ.DLL and BPQ32.DLL that I have been running here.
                                >>
                                >>
                                >>
                                >> On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was running
                                > Version
                                >>
                                >> 1.0.0.1 of the BPQ.DLL dated 3/29/06. That DLL running on the
                                > Win2K Pro
                                >>
                                >> machine (which works fine) has the same Version number but a
                                > different
                                >>
                                >> creation date.. 3/30/06.
                                >>
                                >>
                                >>
                                >> I assume I need to run the one created on 3/30/06 ?
                                >>
                                >> (if so, the version number should probably be changed at some
                                > point)
                                >>
                                >>
                                >>
                                >> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *********
                                > ********* *
                                >>
                                >>
                                >>
                                >> On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was running
                                > Version
                                >>
                                >> 4.9.21.2 of the BPQ32.DLL dated 3/13/06. That DLL running on the
                                > Win2K
                                >>
                                >> Pro machine (which works fine) is Version 4.9.21.3 also created on
                                > 3/13/06.
                                >>
                                >>
                                >>
                                >> I assume that 4.9.21.3 is the most current version and the one I
                                > should
                                >>
                                >> be running ?
                                >>
                                >>
                                >>
                                >> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *********
                                > ********* *
                                >>
                                >>
                                >>
                                >> I'm pretty sure these two dll's are the source of the problem here.
                                >>
                                >>
                                >>
                                >> 73, Mark K2CAN
                                >>
                                >>
                                >>
                                >> Mark Harloff wrote:
                                >>
                                >> >
                                >>
                                >> >
                                >>
                                >> > Hi John,
                                >>
                                >> >
                                >>
                                >> > Thanks for the reply. The problem I was having was that when I
                                > ran BPQ32
                                >>
                                >> > 4.09u Rev 3, ARC 4.4.25 and WinFbb32 7.01.35a on the same
                                > machine (a 1.8
                                >>
                                >> > Gig P4 running Win XP Pro) the switch would lock up after awhile
                                > (not
                                >>
                                >> > sure how long, it varied). The Cluster and the BBS would
                                > continue to run
                                >>
                                >> > even though the switch was locked. There was no fault indication
                                > from
                                >>
                                >> > the switch code (or the OS), it was just unreachable from a
                                > BPQTerminal
                                >>
                                >> > console or either of the ports (serial and telnet) I run.
                                >>
                                >> >
                                >>
                                >> > I have since moved the BBS off to another machine here and am
                                > trying to
                                >>
                                >> > track down the source of the problem by recreating the setup on
                                > the P4.
                                >>
                                >> > I'll keep you and group posted as to how that goes.
                                >>
                                >> >
                                >>
                                >> > Adding the option to have L4 call and alias for each application
                                > will be
                                >>
                                >> > a major benefit for folks that run multiple applications on the
                                > same
                                >>
                                >> > switch (like me).. Your work is very appreciated!
                                >>
                                >> >
                                >>
                                >> > 73, Mark K2CAN
                                >>
                                >> >
                                >>
                                >> > John Wiseman wrote:
                                >>
                                >> >>
                                >>
                                >> >>
                                >>
                                >> >> Hi Mark,
                                >>
                                >> >>
                                >>
                                >> >> I can run ARCluster and WinFBB, although I only do it for
                                > testing,
                                >>
                                >> >> rather than running a production system. I use 7.01.35 Alpha of
                                > WinFBB,
                                >>
                                >> >> Version 4.09u of BPQ32 and I have 4.4.18 of AR-Cluster. AR-
                                > Cluster can
                                >>
                                >> >> only run as BPQ application 1, so you have to run FBB as some
                                > other
                                >>
                                >> >> application. This requires using the bpq.dll from the files
                                > section of
                                >>
                                >> >> this group, rather than the one provided with winfbb32. I
                                > suggest anyone
                                >>
                                >> >> using WinFBB 7.01 uses this replacement, as it fixes other
                                > problems with
                                >>
                                >> >> the original.
                                >>
                                >> >>
                                >>
                                >> >> With the current version, each application can have it's own L2
                                >>
                                >> >> callsign, but only one can respond to the L4 (Netrom) call
                                > BBSCALL. By
                                >>
                                >> >> default this is application 1, but it is possible to change
                                > this with
                                >>
                                >> >> the L4APPL command in bpqcfg.txt. Users access the other
                                > applications by
                                >>
                                >> >> connecting first to the node, then entering the appropriate
                                > command. I
                                >>
                                >> >> am working on a version which will allow each application have
                                > it's own
                                >>
                                >> >> L4 call and alias.
                                >>
                                >> >>
                                >>
                                >> >> Regards,
                                >>
                                >> >>
                                >>
                                >> >> John
                                >>
                                >> <snip>
                                >>
                                >>
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                              • Roger Cooke
                                Hi Mark and others... I replaced those DLL s and a couple of days after doing so I came into the shack and found white screens again. Obviously it is not those
                                Message 15 of 19 , Nov 8, 2006
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                                  Hi Mark and others...

                                     I replaced those DLL's and a couple of days after doing so I came into the
                                  shack and found white screens again. Obviously it is not those that is causing my
                                  problem.
                                     As for "all on one machine" I won't go there again. I have the two running anyway,
                                  with the Satgate on one, so have the Cluster on there now and it works fine.

                                  73 de Roger, G3LDI
                                   
                                  Regards from Roger, G3LDI
                                  Swardeston, Norfolk.


                                  ----- Original Message ----
                                  From: Mark Harloff <mharloff@...>
                                  To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                                  Sent: Friday, 3 November, 2006 6:40:54 PM
                                  Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Re: BPQ32 ARC and WinFBB32

                                  Ok Mike, sounds good.

                                  They should fix his problem, assuming it is identical to the one(s) I had.

                                  - Mark K2CAN

                                  MIchael Melnik Sr. wrote:

                                  >
                                  >
                                  > Mark, K2CAN
                                  > I did send Roger your .dll's and he has replaced them,
                                  > he will let us know if it solves his problems as well,
                                  > Thanks Mike/N9PMO
                                  > --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups. com <mailto:BPQ32% 40yahoogroups. com>, Roger
                                  > Cooke <g3ldi@...> wrote:
                                  >>
                                  >> Been reading the problems Mark has been having. I had the same
                                  > here, and never
                                  >> did solve them. In the end I gave in and I now run BPQ32 and FBB32
                                  > on one machine
                                  >> and AR-Cluster with BPQ32 and my Satgate on another machine. The
                                  > BBS machine
                                  >> talks to the Cluster via an AXIP link. Everything works fine now,
                                  > with one or two minor
                                  >> problems with FBB.
                                  >> Mike, N9PMO, was a great help and we had a few headaches on the
                                  > way! If only
                                  >> there was an FBB32 reflector, it might have helped. It is
                                  > disappointing that the new
                                  >> 32 bit version does not support some of the add-ons that I ran in
                                  > the 16 bit version, as
                                  >> they were very useful. If only I was talented enough to write
                                  > programs!
                                  >>
                                  >> Regards from Roger, G3LDI
                                  >> Swardeston, Norfolk.
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >> ----- Original Message ----
                                  >> From: Mark Harloff <mharloff@.. .>
                                  >> To: BPQ32@yahoogroups. com <mailto:BPQ32% 40yahoogroups. com>
                                  >> Sent: Monday, 30 October, 2006 11:30:22 PM
                                  >> Subject: Re: [BPQ32] BPQ32 ARC and WinFBB32
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >> Hi John and the group,
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >> I've tracked down the problem to what I think is difference in
                                  > version
                                  >>
                                  >> of the BPQ.DLL and BPQ32.DLL that I have been running here.
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >> On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was running
                                  > Version
                                  >>
                                  >> 1.0.0.1 of the BPQ.DLL dated 3/29/06. That DLL running on the
                                  > Win2K Pro
                                  >>
                                  >> machine (which works fine) has the same Version number but a
                                  > different
                                  >>
                                  >> creation date.. 3/30/06.
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >> I assume I need to run the one created on 3/30/06 ?
                                  >>
                                  >> (if so, the version number should probably be changed at some
                                  > point)
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *********
                                  > ********* *
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >> On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was running
                                  > Version
                                  >>
                                  >> 4.9.21.2 of the BPQ32.DLL dated 3/13/06. That DLL running on the
                                  > Win2K
                                  >>
                                  >> Pro machine (which works fine) is Version 4.9.21.3 also created on
                                  > 3/13/06.
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >> I assume that 4.9.21.3 is the most current version and the one I
                                  > should
                                  >>
                                  >> be running ?
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *********
                                  > ********* *
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >> I'm pretty sure these two dll's are the source of the problem here.
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >> 73, Mark K2CAN
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >> Mark Harloff wrote:
                                  >>
                                  >> >
                                  >>
                                  >> >
                                  >>
                                  >> > Hi John,
                                  >>
                                  >> >
                                  >>
                                  >> > Thanks for the reply. The problem I was having was that when I
                                  > ran BPQ32
                                  >>
                                  >> > 4.09u Rev 3, ARC 4.4.25 and WinFbb32 7.01.35a on the same
                                  > machine (a 1.8
                                  >>
                                  >> > Gig P4 running Win XP Pro) the switch would lock up after awhile
                                  > (not
                                  >>
                                  >> > sure how long, it varied). The Cluster and the BBS would
                                  > continue to run
                                  >>
                                  >> > even though the switch was locked. There was no fault indication
                                  > from
                                  >>
                                  >> > the switch code (or the OS), it was just unreachable from a
                                  > BPQTerminal
                                  >>
                                  >> > console or either of the ports (serial and telnet) I run.
                                  >>
                                  >> >
                                  >>
                                  >> > I have since moved the BBS off to another machine here and am
                                  > trying to
                                  >>
                                  >> > track down the source of the problem by recreating the setup on
                                  > the P4.
                                  >>
                                  >> > I'll keep you and group posted as to how that goes.
                                  >>
                                  >> >
                                  >>
                                  >> > Adding the option to have L4 call and alias for each application
                                  > will be
                                  >>
                                  >> > a major benefit for folks that run multiple applications on the
                                  > same
                                  >>
                                  >> > switch (like me).. Your work is very appreciated!
                                  >>
                                  >> >
                                  >>
                                  >> > 73, Mark K2CAN
                                  >>
                                  >> >
                                  >>
                                  >> > John Wiseman wrote:
                                  >>
                                  >> >>
                                  >>
                                  >> >>
                                  >>
                                  >> >> Hi Mark,
                                  >>
                                  >> >>
                                  >>
                                  >> >> I can run ARCluster and WinFBB, although I only do it for
                                  > testing,
                                  >>
                                  >> >> rather than running a production system. I use 7.01.35 Alpha of
                                  > WinFBB,
                                  >>
                                  >> >> Version 4.09u of BPQ32 and I have 4.4.18 of AR-Cluster. AR-
                                  > Cluster can
                                  >>
                                  >> >> only run as BPQ application 1, so you have to run FBB as some
                                  > other
                                  >>
                                  >> >> application. This requires using the bpq.dll from the files
                                  > section of
                                  >>
                                  >> >> this group, rather than the one provided with winfbb32. I
                                  > suggest anyone
                                  >>
                                  >> >> using WinFBB 7.01 uses this replacement, as it fixes other
                                  > problems with
                                  >>
                                  >> >> the original.
                                  >>
                                  >> >>
                                  >>
                                  >> >> With the current version, each application can have it's own L2
                                  >>
                                  >> >> callsign, but only one can respond to the L4 (Netrom) call
                                  > BBSCALL. By
                                  >>
                                  >> >> default this is application 1, but it is possible to change
                                  > this with
                                  >>
                                  >> >> the L4APPL command in bpqcfg.txt. Users access the other
                                  > applications by
                                  >>
                                  >> >> connecting first to the node, then entering the appropriate
                                  > command. I
                                  >>
                                  >> >> am working on a version which will allow each application have
                                  > it's own
                                  >>
                                  >> >> L4 call and alias.
                                  >>
                                  >> >>
                                  >>
                                  >> >> Regards,
                                  >>
                                  >> >>
                                  >>
                                  >> >> John
                                  >>
                                  >> <snip>
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >>
                                  >>
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                                • Mark Harloff
                                  Hi Roger, Sorry to hear that the dll s did not fix your problem. I wasn t aware of the white screen bit. That is definitely not a dll problem. Are the
                                  Message 16 of 19 , Nov 8, 2006
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                                    Hi Roger,

                                    Sorry to hear that the dll's did not fix your problem. I wasn't aware of
                                    the 'white screen' bit. That is definitely not a dll problem.
                                    Are the application windows the part(s) of your screen that are turning
                                    'white' or is it the main OS screen (background) ??

                                    Tell us about your system; OS, processor, etc. That info might help pin
                                    down exactly what was going on.

                                    - Mark K2CAN


                                    Roger Cooke wrote:
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Hi Mark and others...
                                    >
                                    > I replaced those DLL's and a couple of days after doing so I came
                                    > into the
                                    > shack and found white screens again. Obviously it is not those that is
                                    > causing my
                                    > problem.
                                    > As for "all on one machine" I won't go there again. I have the two
                                    > running anyway,
                                    > with the Satgate on one, so have the Cluster on there now and it works fine.
                                    >
                                    > 73 de Roger, G3LDI
                                    >
                                    > Regards from Roger, G3LDI
                                    > Swardeston, Norfolk.
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > ----- Original Message ----
                                    > From: Mark Harloff <mharloff@...>
                                    > To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                                    > Sent: Friday, 3 November, 2006 6:40:54 PM
                                    > Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Re: BPQ32 ARC and WinFBB32
                                    >
                                    > Ok Mike, sounds good.
                                    >
                                    > They should fix his problem, assuming it is identical to the one(s) I had.
                                    >
                                    > - Mark K2CAN
                                    >
                                    > MIchael Melnik Sr. wrote:
                                    >>
                                    >>
                                    >> Mark, K2CAN
                                    >> I did send Roger your .dll's and he has replaced them,
                                    >> he will let us know if it solves his problems as well,
                                    >> Thanks Mike/N9PMO
                                    >> --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups. com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
                                    > <mailto:BPQ32% 40yahoogroups. com>, Roger
                                    >> Cooke <g3ldi@...> wrote:
                                    >>>
                                    >>> Been reading the problems Mark has been having. I had the same
                                    >> here, and never
                                    >>> did solve them. In the end I gave in and I now run BPQ32 and FBB32
                                    >> on one machine
                                    >>> and AR-Cluster with BPQ32 and my Satgate on another machine. The
                                    >> BBS machine
                                    >>> talks to the Cluster via an AXIP link. Everything works fine now,
                                    >> with one or two minor
                                    >>> problems with FBB.
                                    >>> Mike, N9PMO, was a great help and we had a few headaches on the
                                    >> way! If only
                                    >>> there was an FBB32 reflector, it might have helped. It is
                                    >> disappointing that the new
                                    >>> 32 bit version does not support some of the add-ons that I ran in
                                    >> the 16 bit version, as
                                    >>> they were very useful. If only I was talented enough to write
                                    >> programs!
                                    >>>
                                    >>> Regards from Roger, G3LDI
                                    >>> Swardeston, Norfolk.
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>> ----- Original Message ----
                                    >>> From: Mark Harloff <mharloff@.. .>
                                    >>> To: BPQ32@yahoogroups. com <mailto:BPQ32%40yahoogroups.com>
                                    > <mailto:BPQ32% 40yahoogroups. com>
                                    >>> Sent: Monday, 30 October, 2006 11:30:22 PM
                                    >>> Subject: Re: [BPQ32] BPQ32 ARC and WinFBB32
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>> Hi John and the group,
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>> I've tracked down the problem to what I think is difference in
                                    >> version
                                    >>>
                                    >>> of the BPQ.DLL and BPQ32.DLL that I have been running here.
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>> On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was running
                                    >> Version
                                    >>>
                                    >>> 1.0.0.1 of the BPQ.DLL dated 3/29/06. That DLL running on the
                                    >> Win2K Pro
                                    >>>
                                    >>> machine (which works fine) has the same Version number but a
                                    >> different
                                    >>>
                                    >>> creation date.. 3/30/06.
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>> I assume I need to run the one created on 3/30/06 ?
                                    >>>
                                    >>> (if so, the version number should probably be changed at some
                                    >> point)
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *********
                                    >> ********* *
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>> On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was running
                                    >> Version
                                    >>>
                                    >>> 4.9.21.2 of the BPQ32.DLL dated 3/13/06. That DLL running on the
                                    >> Win2K
                                    >>>
                                    >>> Pro machine (which works fine) is Version 4.9.21.3 also created on
                                    >> 3/13/06.
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>> I assume that 4.9.21.3 is the most current version and the one I
                                    >> should
                                    >>>
                                    >>> be running ?
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *********
                                    >> ********* *
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>> I'm pretty sure these two dll's are the source of the problem here.
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>> 73, Mark K2CAN
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>> Mark Harloff wrote:
                                    >>>
                                    >>> >
                                    >>>
                                    >>> >
                                    >>>
                                    >>> > Hi John,
                                    >>>
                                    >>> >
                                    >>>
                                    >>> > Thanks for the reply. The problem I was having was that when I
                                    >> ran BPQ32
                                    >>>
                                    >>> > 4.09u Rev 3, ARC 4.4.25 and WinFbb32 7.01.35a on the same
                                    >> machine (a 1.8
                                    >>>
                                    >>> > Gig P4 running Win XP Pro) the switch would lock up after awhile
                                    >> (not
                                    >>>
                                    >>> > sure how long, it varied). The Cluster and the BBS would
                                    >> continue to run
                                    >>>
                                    >>> > even though the switch was locked. There was no fault indication
                                    >> from
                                    >>>
                                    >>> > the switch code (or the OS), it was just unreachable from a
                                    >> BPQTerminal
                                    >>>
                                    >>> > console or either of the ports (serial and telnet) I run.
                                    >>>
                                    >>> >
                                    >>>
                                    >>> > I have since moved the BBS off to another machine here and am
                                    >> trying to
                                    >>>
                                    >>> > track down the source of the problem by recreating the setup on
                                    >> the P4.
                                    >>>
                                    >>> > I'll keep you and group posted as to how that goes.
                                    >>>
                                    >>> >
                                    >>>
                                    >>> > Adding the option to have L4 call and alias for each application
                                    >> will be
                                    >>>
                                    >>> > a major benefit for folks that run multiple applications on the
                                    >> same
                                    >>>
                                    >>> > switch (like me).. Your work is very appreciated!
                                    >>>
                                    >>> >
                                    >>>
                                    >>> > 73, Mark K2CAN
                                    >>>
                                    >>> >
                                    >>>
                                    >>> > John Wiseman wrote:
                                    >>>
                                    >>> >>
                                    >>>
                                    >>> >>
                                    >>>
                                    >>> >> Hi Mark,
                                    >>>
                                    >>> >>
                                    >>>
                                    >>> >> I can run ARCluster and WinFBB, although I only do it for
                                    >> testing,
                                    >>>
                                    >>> >> rather than running a production system. I use 7.01.35 Alpha of
                                    >> WinFBB,
                                    >>>
                                    >>> >> Version 4.09u of BPQ32 and I have 4.4.18 of AR-Cluster. AR-
                                    >> Cluster can
                                    >>>
                                    >>> >> only run as BPQ application 1, so you have to run FBB as some
                                    >> other
                                    >>>
                                    >>> >> application. This requires using the bpq.dll from the files
                                    >> section of
                                    >>>
                                    >>> >> this group, rather than the one provided with winfbb32. I
                                    >> suggest anyone
                                    >>>
                                    >>> >> using WinFBB 7.01 uses this replacement, as it fixes other
                                    >> problems with
                                    >>>
                                    >>> >> the original.
                                    >>>
                                    >>> >>
                                    >>>
                                    >>> >> With the current version, each application can have it's own L2
                                    >>>
                                    >>> >> callsign, but only one can respond to the L4 (Netrom) call
                                    >> BBSCALL. By
                                    >>>
                                    >>> >> default this is application 1, but it is possible to change
                                    >> this with
                                    >>>
                                    >>> >> the L4APPL command in bpqcfg.txt. Users access the other
                                    >> applications by
                                    >>>
                                    >>> >> connecting first to the node, then entering the appropriate
                                    >> command. I
                                    >>>
                                    >>> >> am working on a version which will allow each application have
                                    >> it's own
                                    >>>
                                    >>> >> L4 call and alias.
                                    >>>
                                    >>> >>
                                    >>>
                                    >>> >> Regards,
                                    >>>
                                    >>> >>
                                    >>>
                                    >>> >> John
                                    >>>
                                    >>> <snip>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
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                                    >>>
                                    >>> #ygrp-sponsor #hd{
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                                    >>> #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{
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                                    >>> font-size:120% ;
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                                    >>> blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;}
                                    >>> .replbq {margin:4;}
                                    >>> -->
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                                  • Roger Cooke
                                    Hi Mark. The white screens are just the FBB application. There is no information in them at all although the rest of the PC is quite OK. I can invoke Windows
                                    Message 17 of 19 , Nov 9, 2006
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                                      Hi Mark.

                                         The "white screens" are just the FBB application. There is no information in them at all although
                                      the rest of the PC is quite OK. I can invoke Windows Explorer for example.  The only option is
                                      to quit and start again. It is so intermittent however, that it is impossible to nail it down to any
                                      one event.
                                        
                                         Aside from that, this version of FBB has been pretty stable over the few weeks I have been
                                      running it. Talking to ARC over an AXIP link to the Satgate machine also works well. I have
                                      had no problems with that at all.

                                         All we need now is an influx of users    and some kind person to update the 16 bit servers
                                      that used to be so well used on the older system, like LOGON, QSL, QTH, TELETEXT and
                                      so on.
                                       
                                      Regards from Roger, G3LDI
                                      Swardeston, Norfolk.


                                      ----- Original Message ----
                                      From: Mark Harloff <mharloff@...>
                                      To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                                      Sent: Wednesday, 8 November, 2006 9:41:35 PM
                                      Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Re: BPQ32 ARC and WinFBB32

                                      Hi Roger,

                                      Sorry to hear that the dll's did not fix your problem. I wasn't aware of
                                      the 'white screen' bit. That is definitely not a dll problem.
                                      Are the application windows the part(s) of your screen that are turning
                                      'white' or is it the main OS screen (background) ??

                                      Tell us about your system; OS, processor, etc. That info might help pin
                                      down exactly what was going on.

                                      - Mark K2CAN

                                      Roger Cooke wrote:

                                      >
                                      >
                                      > Hi Mark and others...
                                      >
                                      > I replaced those DLL's and a couple of days after doing so I came
                                      > into the
                                      > shack and found white screens again. Obviously it is not those that is
                                      > causing my
                                      > problem.
                                      > As for "all on one machine" I won't go there again. I have the two
                                      > running anyway,
                                      > with the Satgate on one, so have the Cluster on there now and it works fine.
                                      >
                                      > 73 de Roger, G3LDI
                                      >
                                      > Regards from Roger, G3LDI
                                      > Swardeston, Norfolk.
                                      >
                                      >
                                      > ----- Original Message ----
                                      > From: Mark Harloff <mharloff@frontirnet .net>
                                      > To: BPQ32@yahoogroups. com
                                      > Sent: Friday, 3 November, 2006 6:40:54 PM
                                      > Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Re: BPQ32 ARC and WinFBB32
                                      >
                                      > Ok Mike, sounds good.
                                      >
                                      > They should fix his problem, assuming it is identical to the one(s) I had.
                                      >
                                      > - Mark K2CAN
                                      >
                                      > MIchael Melnik Sr. wrote:
                                      >>
                                      >>
                                      >> Mark, K2CAN
                                      >> I did send Roger your .dll's and he has replaced them,
                                      >> he will let us know if it solves his problems as well,
                                      >> Thanks Mike/N9PMO
                                      >> --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups. com <mailto:BPQ32% 40yahoogroups. com>
                                      > <mailto:BPQ32% 40yahoogroups. com>, Roger
                                      >> Cooke <g3ldi@...> wrote:
                                      >>>
                                      >>> Been reading the problems Mark has been having. I had the same
                                      >> here, and never
                                      >>> did solve them. In the end I gave in and I now run BPQ32 and FBB32
                                      >> on one machine
                                      >>> and AR-Cluster with BPQ32 and my Satgate on another machine. The
                                      >> BBS machine
                                      >>> talks to the Cluster via an AXIP link. Everything works fine now,
                                      >> with one or two minor
                                      >>> problems with FBB.
                                      >>> Mike, N9PMO, was a great help and we had a few headaches on the
                                      >> way! If only
                                      >>> there was an FBB32 reflector, it might have helped. It is
                                      >> disappointing that the new
                                      >>> 32 bit version does not support some of the add-ons that I ran in
                                      >> the 16 bit version, as
                                      >>> they were very useful. If only I was talented enough to write
                                      >> programs!
                                      >>>
                                      >>> Regards from Roger, G3LDI
                                      >>> Swardeston, Norfolk.
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>> ----- Original Message ----
                                      >>> From: Mark Harloff <mharloff@.. .>
                                      >>> To: BPQ32@yahoogroups. com <mailto:BPQ32% 40yahoogroups. com>
                                      > <mailto:BPQ32% 40yahoogroups. com>
                                      >>> Sent: Monday, 30 October, 2006 11:30:22 PM
                                      >>> Subject: Re: [BPQ32] BPQ32 ARC and WinFBB32
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>> Hi John and the group,
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>> I've tracked down the problem to what I think is difference in
                                      >> version
                                      >>>
                                      >>> of the BPQ.DLL and BPQ32.DLL that I have been running here.
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>> On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was running
                                      >> Version
                                      >>>
                                      >>> 1.0.0.1 of the BPQ.DLL dated 3/29/06. That DLL running on the
                                      >> Win2K Pro
                                      >>>
                                      >>> machine (which works fine) has the same Version number but a
                                      >> different
                                      >>>
                                      >>> creation date.. 3/30/06.
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>> I assume I need to run the one created on 3/30/06 ?
                                      >>>
                                      >>> (if so, the version number should probably be changed at some
                                      >> point)
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *********
                                      >> ********* *
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>> On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was running
                                      >> Version
                                      >>>
                                      >>> 4.9.21.2 of the BPQ32.DLL dated 3/13/06. That DLL running on the
                                      >> Win2K
                                      >>>
                                      >>> Pro machine (which works fine) is Version 4.9.21.3 also created on
                                      >> 3/13/06.
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>> I assume that 4.9.21.3 is the most current version and the one I
                                      >> should
                                      >>>
                                      >>> be running ?
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *********
                                      >> ********* *
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>> I'm pretty sure these two dll's are the source of the problem here.
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>> 73, Mark K2CAN
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>> Mark Harloff wrote:
                                      >>>
                                      >>> >
                                      >>>
                                      >>> >
                                      >>>
                                      >>> > Hi John,
                                      >>>
                                      >>> >
                                      >>>
                                      >>> > Thanks for the reply. The problem I was having was that when I
                                      >> ran BPQ32
                                      >>>
                                      >>> > 4.09u Rev 3, ARC 4.4.25 and WinFbb32 7.01.35a on the same
                                      >> machine (a 1.8
                                      >>>
                                      >>> > Gig P4 running Win XP Pro) the switch would lock up after awhile
                                      >> (not
                                      >>>
                                      >>> > sure how long, it varied). The Cluster and the BBS would
                                      >> continue to run
                                      >>>
                                      >>> > even though the switch was locked. There was no fault indication
                                      >> from
                                      >>>
                                      >>> > the switch code (or the OS), it was just unreachable from a
                                      >> BPQTerminal
                                      >>>
                                      >>> > console or either of the ports (serial and telnet) I run.
                                      >>>
                                      >>> >
                                      >>>
                                      >>> > I have since moved the BBS off to another machine here and am
                                      >> trying to
                                      >>>
                                      >>> > track down the source of the problem by recreating the setup on
                                      >> the P4.
                                      >>>
                                      >>> > I'll keep you and group posted as to how that goes.
                                      >>>
                                      >>> >
                                      >>>
                                      >>> > Adding the option to have L4 call and alias for each application
                                      >> will be
                                      >>>
                                      >>> > a major benefit for folks that run multiple applications on the
                                      >> same
                                      >>>
                                      >>> > switch (like me).. Your work is very appreciated!
                                      >>>
                                      >>> >
                                      >>>
                                      >>> > 73, Mark K2CAN
                                      >>>
                                      >>> >
                                      >>>
                                      >>> > John Wiseman wrote:
                                      >>>
                                      >>> >>
                                      >>>
                                      >>> >>
                                      >>>
                                      >>> >> Hi Mark,
                                      >>>
                                      >>> >>
                                      >>>
                                      >>> >> I can run ARCluster and WinFBB, although I only do it for
                                      >> testing,
                                      >>>
                                      >>> >> rather than running a production system. I use 7.01.35 Alpha of
                                      >> WinFBB,
                                      >>>
                                      >>> >> Version 4.09u of BPQ32 and I have 4.4.18 of AR-Cluster. AR-
                                      >> Cluster can
                                      >>>
                                      >>> >> only run as BPQ application 1, so you have to run FBB as some
                                      >> other
                                      >>>
                                      >>> >> application. This requires using the bpq.dll from the files
                                      >> section of
                                      >>>
                                      >>> >> this group, rather than the one provided with winfbb32. I
                                      >> suggest anyone
                                      >>>
                                      >>> >> using WinFBB 7.01 uses this replacement, as it fixes other
                                      >> problems with
                                      >>>
                                      >>> >> the original.
                                      >>>
                                      >>> >>
                                      >>>
                                      >>> >> With the current version, each application can have it's own L2
                                      >>>
                                      >>> >> callsign, but only one can respond to the L4 (Netrom) call
                                      >> BBSCALL. By
                                      >>>
                                      >>> >> default this is application 1, but it is possible to change
                                      >> this with
                                      >>>
                                      >>> >> the L4APPL command in bpqcfg.txt. Users access the other
                                      >> applications by
                                      >>>
                                      >>> >> connecting first to the node, then entering the appropriate
                                      >> command. I
                                      >>>
                                      >>> >> am working on a version which will allow each application have
                                      >> it's own
                                      >>>
                                      >>> >> L4 call and alias.
                                      >>>
                                      >>> >>
                                      >>>
                                      >>> >> Regards,
                                      >>>
                                      >>> >>
                                      >>>
                                      >>> >> John
                                      >>>
                                      >>> <snip>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
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                                    • Roger Cooke
                                      Hi Mark. Yes, it s just the FBB application that goes white. I can use the PC for other programs. I am using XP Pro, and the motherboard is a Pentium II with
                                      Message 18 of 19 , Nov 9, 2006
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                                        Hi Mark.

                                            Yes, it's just the FBB application that goes white.  I can use the PC for
                                        other programs.  I am using XP Pro, and the motherboard is a Pentium II with an
                                        Athlon 850MHZ processor. This is on a LAN with three other machines.
                                        The FBB windows are still there, but void of all information, just white! The
                                        background desktop is normal.
                                         
                                        Regards from Roger, G3LDI
                                        Swardeston, Norfolk.


                                        ----- Original Message ----
                                        From: Mark Harloff <mharloff@...>
                                        To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                                        Sent: Wednesday, 8 November, 2006 9:41:35 PM
                                        Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Re: BPQ32 ARC and WinFBB32

                                        Hi Roger,

                                        Sorry to hear that the dll's did not fix your problem. I wasn't aware of
                                        the 'white screen' bit. That is definitely not a dll problem.
                                        Are the application windows the part(s) of your screen that are turning
                                        'white' or is it the main OS screen (background) ??

                                        Tell us about your system; OS, processor, etc. That info might help pin
                                        down exactly what was going on.

                                        - Mark K2CAN

                                        Roger Cooke wrote:

                                        >
                                        >
                                        > Hi Mark and others...
                                        >
                                        > I replaced those DLL's and a couple of days after doing so I came
                                        > into the
                                        > shack and found white screens again. Obviously it is not those that is
                                        > causing my
                                        > problem.
                                        > As for "all on one machine" I won't go there again. I have the two
                                        > running anyway,
                                        > with the Satgate on one, so have the Cluster on there now and it works fine.
                                        >
                                        > 73 de Roger, G3LDI
                                        >
                                        > Regards from Roger, G3LDI
                                        > Swardeston, Norfolk.
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > ----- Original Message ----
                                        > From: Mark Harloff <mharloff@frontirnet .net>
                                        > To: BPQ32@yahoogroups. com
                                        > Sent: Friday, 3 November, 2006 6:40:54 PM
                                        > Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Re: BPQ32 ARC and WinFBB32
                                        >
                                        > Ok Mike, sounds good.
                                        >
                                        > They should fix his problem, assuming it is identical to the one(s) I had.
                                        >
                                        > - Mark K2CAN
                                        >
                                        > MIchael Melnik Sr. wrote:
                                        >>
                                        >>
                                        >> Mark, K2CAN
                                        >> I did send Roger your .dll's and he has replaced them,
                                        >> he will let us know if it solves his problems as well,
                                        >> Thanks Mike/N9PMO
                                        >> --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups. com <mailto:BPQ32% 40yahoogroups. com>
                                        > <mailto:BPQ32% 40yahoogroups. com>, Roger
                                        >> Cooke <g3ldi@...> wrote:
                                        >>>
                                        >>> Been reading the problems Mark has been having. I had the same
                                        >> here, and never
                                        >>> did solve them. In the end I gave in and I now run BPQ32 and FBB32
                                        >> on one machine
                                        >>> and AR-Cluster with BPQ32 and my Satgate on another machine. The
                                        >> BBS machine
                                        >>> talks to the Cluster via an AXIP link. Everything works fine now,
                                        >> with one or two minor
                                        >>> problems with FBB.
                                        >>> Mike, N9PMO, was a great help and we had a few headaches on the
                                        >> way! If only
                                        >>> there was an FBB32 reflector, it might have helped. It is
                                        >> disappointing that the new
                                        >>> 32 bit version does not support some of the add-ons that I ran in
                                        >> the 16 bit version, as
                                        >>> they were very useful. If only I was talented enough to write
                                        >> programs!
                                        >>>
                                        >>> Regards from Roger, G3LDI
                                        >>> Swardeston, Norfolk.
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>> ----- Original Message ----
                                        >>> From: Mark Harloff <mharloff@.. .>
                                        >>> To: BPQ32@yahoogroups. com <mailto:BPQ32% 40yahoogroups. com>
                                        > <mailto:BPQ32% 40yahoogroups. com>
                                        >>> Sent: Monday, 30 October, 2006 11:30:22 PM
                                        >>> Subject: Re: [BPQ32] BPQ32 ARC and WinFBB32
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>> Hi John and the group,
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>> I've tracked down the problem to what I think is difference in
                                        >> version
                                        >>>
                                        >>> of the BPQ.DLL and BPQ32.DLL that I have been running here.
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>> On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was running
                                        >> Version
                                        >>>
                                        >>> 1.0.0.1 of the BPQ.DLL dated 3/29/06. That DLL running on the
                                        >> Win2K Pro
                                        >>>
                                        >>> machine (which works fine) has the same Version number but a
                                        >> different
                                        >>>
                                        >>> creation date.. 3/30/06.
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>> I assume I need to run the one created on 3/30/06 ?
                                        >>>
                                        >>> (if so, the version number should probably be changed at some
                                        >> point)
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *********
                                        >> ********* *
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>> On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was running
                                        >> Version
                                        >>>
                                        >>> 4.9.21.2 of the BPQ32.DLL dated 3/13/06. That DLL running on the
                                        >> Win2K
                                        >>>
                                        >>> Pro machine (which works fine) is Version 4.9.21.3 also created on
                                        >> 3/13/06.
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>> I assume that 4.9.21.3 is the most current version and the one I
                                        >> should
                                        >>>
                                        >>> be running ?
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *********
                                        >> ********* *
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>> I'm pretty sure these two dll's are the source of the problem here.
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>> 73, Mark K2CAN
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>> Mark Harloff wrote:
                                        >>>
                                        >>> >
                                        >>>
                                        >>> >
                                        >>>
                                        >>> > Hi John,
                                        >>>
                                        >>> >
                                        >>>
                                        >>> > Thanks for the reply. The problem I was having was that when I
                                        >> ran BPQ32
                                        >>>
                                        >>> > 4.09u Rev 3, ARC 4.4.25 and WinFbb32 7.01.35a on the same
                                        >> machine (a 1.8
                                        >>>
                                        >>> > Gig P4 running Win XP Pro) the switch would lock up after awhile
                                        >> (not
                                        >>>
                                        >>> > sure how long, it varied). The Cluster and the BBS would
                                        >> continue to run
                                        >>>
                                        >>> > even though the switch was locked. There was no fault indication
                                        >> from
                                        >>>
                                        >>> > the switch code (or the OS), it was just unreachable from a
                                        >> BPQTerminal
                                        >>>
                                        >>> > console or either of the ports (serial and telnet) I run.
                                        >>>
                                        >>> >
                                        >>>
                                        >>> > I have since moved the BBS off to another machine here and am
                                        >> trying to
                                        >>>
                                        >>> > track down the source of the problem by recreating the setup on
                                        >> the P4.
                                        >>>
                                        >>> > I'll keep you and group posted as to how that goes.
                                        >>>
                                        >>> >
                                        >>>
                                        >>> > Adding the option to have L4 call and alias for each application
                                        >> will be
                                        >>>
                                        >>> > a major benefit for folks that run multiple applications on the
                                        >> same
                                        >>>
                                        >>> > switch (like me).. Your work is very appreciated!
                                        >>>
                                        >>> >
                                        >>>
                                        >>> > 73, Mark K2CAN
                                        >>>
                                        >>> >
                                        >>>
                                        >>> > John Wiseman wrote:
                                        >>>
                                        >>> >>
                                        >>>
                                        >>> >>
                                        >>>
                                        >>> >> Hi Mark,
                                        >>>
                                        >>> >>
                                        >>>
                                        >>> >> I can run ARCluster and WinFBB, although I only do it for
                                        >> testing,
                                        >>>
                                        >>> >> rather than running a production system. I use 7.01.35 Alpha of
                                        >> WinFBB,
                                        >>>
                                        >>> >> Version 4.09u of BPQ32 and I have 4.4.18 of AR-Cluster. AR-
                                        >> Cluster can
                                        >>>
                                        >>> >> only run as BPQ application 1, so you have to run FBB as some
                                        >> other
                                        >>>
                                        >>> >> application. This requires using the bpq.dll from the files
                                        >> section of
                                        >>>
                                        >>> >> this group, rather than the one provided with winfbb32. I
                                        >> suggest anyone
                                        >>>
                                        >>> >> using WinFBB 7.01 uses this replacement, as it fixes other
                                        >> problems with
                                        >>>
                                        >>> >> the original.
                                        >>>
                                        >>> >>
                                        >>>
                                        >>> >> With the current version, each application can have it's own L2
                                        >>>
                                        >>> >> callsign, but only one can respond to the L4 (Netrom) call
                                        >> BBSCALL. By
                                        >>>
                                        >>> >> default this is application 1, but it is possible to change
                                        >> this with
                                        >>>
                                        >>> >> the L4APPL command in bpqcfg.txt. Users access the other
                                        >> applications by
                                        >>>
                                        >>> >> connecting first to the node, then entering the appropriate
                                        >> command. I
                                        >>>
                                        >>> >> am working on a version which will allow each application have
                                        >> it's own
                                        >>>
                                        >>> >> L4 call and alias.
                                        >>>
                                        >>> >>
                                        >>>
                                        >>> >> Regards,
                                        >>>
                                        >>> >>
                                        >>>
                                        >>> >> John
                                        >>>
                                        >>> <snip>
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
                                        >>>
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                                        Hello Everyone, This is getting interesting. I ran the 16 bit version of WinFBB for many years. And have run the 32 bit version of WinFBB for the past six
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                                          Hello Everyone, This is getting interesting. I ran the 16 bit version
                                          of WinFBB for many years. And have run the 32 bit version of WinFBB
                                          for the past six months or so. And never had a problem with screen
                                          display until this afternoon. I do not run ARC but I do run BPQ32 and
                                          WinFBB 32 bit vervion on Windows XP SP2. When we got home from
                                          shopping this afternoon my bbs screens were the "white screens" I
                                          leave the Control Screen, Monitor Screen and All Channels screen up
                                          all the time. And all three were white. I knows I am running the
                                          correct versions of the DLL files and current BPQ32 version as per
                                          John G8BPQ. My question to every one now who is having this problem
                                          is... have you installed the new Internet Explorer 7 as I knows it
                                          causes issues with other programs. Or maybe have you installed the
                                          new Firefox 2.0. Other than normal Windows upgrades these are the
                                          only other two program changes I have made recently.
                                          ...73's...Joel N4JOA@N4JOS BBS

                                          --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, Roger Cooke <g3ldi@...> wrote:
                                          >
                                          > Hi Mark.
                                          >
                                          > The "white screens" are just the FBB application. There is no
                                          information in them at all although
                                          > the rest of the PC is quite OK. I can invoke Windows Explorer for
                                          example. The only option is
                                          > to quit and start again. It is so intermittent however, that it is
                                          impossible to nail it down to any
                                          > one event.
                                          >
                                          > Aside from that, this version of FBB has been pretty stable over
                                          the few weeks I have been
                                          > running it. Talking to ARC over an AXIP link to the Satgate machine
                                          also works well. I have
                                          > had no problems with that at all.
                                          >
                                          > All we need now is an influx of users and some kind person to
                                          update the 16 bit servers
                                          > that used to be so well used on the older system, like LOGON, QSL,
                                          QTH, TELETEXT and
                                          > so on.
                                          >
                                          > Regards from Roger, G3LDI
                                          > Swardeston, Norfolk.
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > ----- Original Message ----
                                          > From: Mark Harloff <mharloff@...>
                                          > To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                                          > Sent: Wednesday, 8 November, 2006 9:41:35 PM
                                          > Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Re: BPQ32 ARC and WinFBB32
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > Hi Roger,
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > Sorry to hear that the dll's did not fix your problem. I wasn't
                                          aware of
                                          >
                                          > the 'white screen' bit. That is definitely not a dll problem.
                                          >
                                          > Are the application windows the part(s) of your screen that are
                                          turning
                                          >
                                          > 'white' or is it the main OS screen (background) ??
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > Tell us about your system; OS, processor, etc. That info might help
                                          pin
                                          >
                                          > down exactly what was going on.
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > - Mark K2CAN
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > Roger Cooke wrote:
                                          >
                                          > >
                                          >
                                          > >
                                          >
                                          > > Hi Mark and others...
                                          >
                                          > >
                                          >
                                          > > I replaced those DLL's and a couple of days after doing so I
                                          came
                                          >
                                          > > into the
                                          >
                                          > > shack and found white screens again. Obviously it is not those
                                          that is
                                          >
                                          > > causing my
                                          >
                                          > > problem.
                                          >
                                          > > As for "all on one machine" I won't go there again. I have the
                                          two
                                          >
                                          > > running anyway,
                                          >
                                          > > with the Satgate on one, so have the Cluster on there now and it
                                          works fine.
                                          >
                                          > >
                                          >
                                          > > 73 de Roger, G3LDI
                                          >
                                          > >
                                          >
                                          > > Regards from Roger, G3LDI
                                          >
                                          > > Swardeston, Norfolk.
                                          >
                                          > >
                                          >
                                          > >
                                          >
                                          > > ----- Original Message ----
                                          >
                                          > > From: Mark Harloff <mharloff@frontirnet .net>
                                          >
                                          > > To: BPQ32@yahoogroups. com
                                          >
                                          > > Sent: Friday, 3 November, 2006 6:40:54 PM
                                          >
                                          > > Subject: Re: [BPQ32] Re: BPQ32 ARC and WinFBB32
                                          >
                                          > >
                                          >
                                          > > Ok Mike, sounds good.
                                          >
                                          > >
                                          >
                                          > > They should fix his problem, assuming it is identical to the one
                                          (s) I had.
                                          >
                                          > >
                                          >
                                          > > - Mark K2CAN
                                          >
                                          > >
                                          >
                                          > > MIchael Melnik Sr. wrote:
                                          >
                                          > >>
                                          >
                                          > >>
                                          >
                                          > >> Mark, K2CAN
                                          >
                                          > >> I did send Roger your .dll's and he has replaced them,
                                          >
                                          > >> he will let us know if it solves his problems as well,
                                          >
                                          > >> Thanks Mike/N9PMO
                                          >
                                          > >> --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups. com <mailto:BPQ32% 40yahoogroups. com>
                                          >
                                          > > <mailto:BPQ32% 40yahoogroups. com>, Roger
                                          >
                                          > >> Cooke <g3ldi@> wrote:
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> Been reading the problems Mark has been having. I had the same
                                          >
                                          > >> here, and never
                                          >
                                          > >>> did solve them. In the end I gave in and I now run BPQ32 and
                                          FBB32
                                          >
                                          > >> on one machine
                                          >
                                          > >>> and AR-Cluster with BPQ32 and my Satgate on another machine. The
                                          >
                                          > >> BBS machine
                                          >
                                          > >>> talks to the Cluster via an AXIP link. Everything works fine
                                          now,
                                          >
                                          > >> with one or two minor
                                          >
                                          > >>> problems with FBB.
                                          >
                                          > >>> Mike, N9PMO, was a great help and we had a few headaches on the
                                          >
                                          > >> way! If only
                                          >
                                          > >>> there was an FBB32 reflector, it might have helped. It is
                                          >
                                          > >> disappointing that the new
                                          >
                                          > >>> 32 bit version does not support some of the add-ons that I ran
                                          in
                                          >
                                          > >> the 16 bit version, as
                                          >
                                          > >>> they were very useful. If only I was talented enough to write
                                          >
                                          > >> programs!
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> Regards from Roger, G3LDI
                                          >
                                          > >>> Swardeston, Norfolk.
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> ----- Original Message ----
                                          >
                                          > >>> From: Mark Harloff <mharloff@ .>
                                          >
                                          > >>> To: BPQ32@yahoogroups. com <mailto:BPQ32% 40yahoogroups. com>
                                          >
                                          > > <mailto:BPQ32% 40yahoogroups. com>
                                          >
                                          > >>> Sent: Monday, 30 October, 2006 11:30:22 PM
                                          >
                                          > >>> Subject: Re: [BPQ32] BPQ32 ARC and WinFBB32
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> Hi John and the group,
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> I've tracked down the problem to what I think is difference in
                                          >
                                          > >> version
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> of the BPQ.DLL and BPQ32.DLL that I have been running here.
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was running
                                          >
                                          > >> Version
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> 1.0.0.1 of the BPQ.DLL dated 3/29/06. That DLL running on the
                                          >
                                          > >> Win2K Pro
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> machine (which works fine) has the same Version number but a
                                          >
                                          > >> different
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> creation date.. 3/30/06.
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> I assume I need to run the one created on 3/30/06 ?
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> (if so, the version number should probably be changed at some
                                          >
                                          > >> point)
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *********
                                          >
                                          > >> ********* *
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> On the XP Pro machine (that BPQ32 locks up on) I was running
                                          >
                                          > >> Version
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> 4.9.21.2 of the BPQ32.DLL dated 3/13/06. That DLL running on the
                                          >
                                          > >> Win2K
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> Pro machine (which works fine) is Version 4.9.21.3 also created
                                          on
                                          >
                                          > >> 3/13/06.
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> I assume that 4.9.21.3 is the most current version and the one I
                                          >
                                          > >> should
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> be running ?
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *********
                                          >
                                          > >> ********* *
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> I'm pretty sure these two dll's are the source of the problem
                                          here.
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> 73, Mark K2CAN
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> Mark Harloff wrote:
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> >
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> >
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> > Hi John,
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> >
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> > Thanks for the reply. The problem I was having was that when I
                                          >
                                          > >> ran BPQ32
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> > 4.09u Rev 3, ARC 4.4.25 and WinFbb32 7.01.35a on the same
                                          >
                                          > >> machine (a 1.8
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> > Gig P4 running Win XP Pro) the switch would lock up after
                                          awhile
                                          >
                                          > >> (not
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> > sure how long, it varied). The Cluster and the BBS would
                                          >
                                          > >> continue to run
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> > even though the switch was locked. There was no fault
                                          indication
                                          >
                                          > >> from
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> > the switch code (or the OS), it was just unreachable from a
                                          >
                                          > >> BPQTerminal
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> > console or either of the ports (serial and telnet) I run.
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> >
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> > I have since moved the BBS off to another machine here and am
                                          >
                                          > >> trying to
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> > track down the source of the problem by recreating the setup
                                          on
                                          >
                                          > >> the P4.
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> > I'll keep you and group posted as to how that goes.
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> >
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> > Adding the option to have L4 call and alias for each
                                          application
                                          >
                                          > >> will be
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> > a major benefit for folks that run multiple applications on
                                          the
                                          >
                                          > >> same
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> > switch (like me).. Your work is very appreciated!
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> >
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> > 73, Mark K2CAN
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> >
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> > John Wiseman wrote:
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> >>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> >>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> >> Hi Mark,
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> >>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> >> I can run ARCluster and WinFBB, although I only do it for
                                          >
                                          > >> testing,
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> >> rather than running a production system. I use 7.01.35 Alpha
                                          of
                                          >
                                          > >> WinFBB,
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> >> Version 4.09u of BPQ32 and I have 4.4.18 of AR-Cluster. AR-
                                          >
                                          > >> Cluster can
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> >> only run as BPQ application 1, so you have to run FBB as some
                                          >
                                          > >> other
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> >> application. This requires using the bpq.dll from the files
                                          >
                                          > >> section of
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> >> this group, rather than the one provided with winfbb32. I
                                          >
                                          > >> suggest anyone
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> >> using WinFBB 7.01 uses this replacement, as it fixes other
                                          >
                                          > >> problems with
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> >> the original.
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> >>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> >> With the current version, each application can have it's own
                                          L2
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> >> callsign, but only one can respond to the L4 (Netrom) call
                                          >
                                          > >> BBSCALL. By
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> >> default this is application 1, but it is possible to change
                                          >
                                          > >> this with
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> >> the L4APPL command in bpqcfg.txt. Users access the other
                                          >
                                          > >> applications by
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> >> connecting first to the node, then entering the appropriate
                                          >
                                          > >> command. I
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> >> am working on a version which will allow each application
                                          have
                                          >
                                          > >> it's own
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> >> L4 call and alias.
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> >>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> >> Regards,
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> >>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> >> John
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> <snip>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> <!--
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                                          > >>>
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                                          >
                                          > >> serif;}
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                                          > >>> #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99%
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                                          > >>> }
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                                          > >>> border-top:1px solid #666;
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                                          > >>> }
                                          >
                                          > >>> #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{
                                          >
                                          > >>> padding-bottom: 10px;
                                          >
                                          > >>> }
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> #ygrp-vital{
                                          >
                                          > >>> background-color: #e0ecee;
                                          >
                                          > >>> margin-bottom: 20px;
                                          >
                                          > >>> padding:2px 0 8px 8px;
                                          >
                                          > >>> }
                                          >
                                          > >>> #ygrp-vital #vithd{
                                          >
                                          > >>> font-size:77% ;
                                          >
                                          > >>> font-family: Verdana;
                                          >
                                          > >>> font-weight: bold;
                                          >
                                          > >>> color:#333;
                                          >
                                          > >>> text-transform: uppercase;
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                                          > >>> }
                                          >
                                          > >>> #ygrp-vital ul{
                                          >
                                          > >>> padding:0;
                                          >
                                          > >>> margin:2px 0;
                                          >
                                          > >>> }
                                          >
                                          > >>> #ygrp-vital ul li{
                                          >
                                          > >>> list-style-type: none;
                                          >
                                          > >>> clear:both;
                                          >
                                          > >>> border:1px solid #e0ecee;
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                                          > >>> }
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                                          > >>> #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{
                                          >
                                          > >>> font-weight: bold;
                                          >
                                          > >>> color:#ff7900;
                                          >
                                          > >>> float:right;
                                          >
                                          > >>> width:2em;
                                          >
                                          > >>> text-align:right;
                                          >
                                          > >>> padding-right: .5em;
                                          >
                                          > >>> }
                                          >
                                          > >>> #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{
                                          >
                                          > >>> font-weight: bold;
                                          >
                                          > >>> }
                                          >
                                          > >>> #ygrp-vital a {
                                          >
                                          > >>> text-decoration: none;
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                                          > >>> }
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> #ygrp-vital a:hover{
                                          >
                                          > >>> text-decoration: underline;
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                                          > >>> }
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>> #ygrp-sponsor #hd{
                                          >
                                          > >>> color:#999;
                                          >
                                          > >>> font-size:77% ;
                                          >
                                          > >>> }
                                          >
                                          > >>> #ygrp-sponsor #ov{
                                          >
                                          > >>> padding:6px 13px;
                                          >
                                          > >>> background-color: #e0ecee;
                                          >
                                          > >>> margin-bottom: 20px;
                                          >
                                          > >>> }
                                          >
                                          > >>> #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{
                                          >
                                          > >>> padding:0 0 0 8px;
                                          >
                                          > >>> margin:0;
                                          >
                                          > >>> }
                                          >
                                          > >>> #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{
                                          >
                                          > >>> list-style-type: square;
                                          >
                                          > >>> padding:6px 0;
                                          >
                                          > >>> font-size:77% ;
                                          >
                                          > >>> }
                                          >
                                          > >>> #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{
                                          >
                                          > >>> text-decoration: none;
                                          >
                                          > >>> font-size:130% ;
                                          >
                                          > >>> }
                                          >
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                                          >
                                          > >>> background-color: #eee;
                                          >
                                          > >>> margin-bottom: 20px;
                                          >
                                          > >>> padding:0 8px;
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                                          > >>> }
                                          >
                                          > >>> #ygrp-sponsor .ad{
                                          >
                                          > >>> padding:8px 0;
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                                          > >>> }
                                          >
                                          > >>> #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{
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                                          > >>> font-weight: bold;
                                          >
                                          > >>> color:#628c2a;
                                          >
                                          > >>> font-size:100% ;
                                          >
                                          > >>> line-height: 122%;
                                          >
                                          > >>> }
                                          >
                                          > >>> #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{
                                          >
                                          > >>> text-decoration: none;
                                          >
                                          > >>> }
                                          >
                                          > >>> #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{
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                                          > >>> text-decoration: underline;
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                                          > >>> }
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                                          > >>> #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{
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                                          > >>> margin:0;
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                                          > >>> }
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                                          > >>> o {font-size:0; }
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                                          > >>> }
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                                          > >>> }
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                                          > >>> blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;}
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                                          > >>> .replbq {margin:4;}
                                          >
                                          > >>> -->
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
                                          >
                                          > >>>
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                                          > >>>
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                                          > >>>
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