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  • Jerry - N9LYA
    HI James.. Ok let me know... ... From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of james@wu3v.net Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:54 PM
    Message 1 of 11 , Aug 28, 2009
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      HI James.. Ok let me know...

      -----Original Message-----
      From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
      james@...
      Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:54 PM
      To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [BPQ32] HF Forwarding time out

      You are a bit old for that!
      Hee hee

      WU3V
      via BlackBerry

      -----Original Message-----
      From: WS7I <ws7ik7tj@...>

      Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:05:36
      To: <BPQ32@yahoogroups.com>
      Subject: Re: [BPQ32] HF Forwarding time out


      300 Ms I would say. Used to run HF on 10 Mhz cluster to cluster. Let
      me see if I can find those old files.



      On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Jerry - N9LYA<n9lya@...> wrote:
      >
      >
      > Hi Guys.. I am setting HF forwarding on 40 meters to KQ0I and we get going
      > very well.. But shortly I send a disconnect. It says it's Timeout!!!
      >
      >
      >
      > It does not seem like much time had passed since forwarding started. Band
      is
      > somewhat bad But even when good I send this disconnect.. Any ideas.
      >
      >
      >
      > Maybe something is set to a short time delay because I never forwarded on
      HF
      > with this setup of BPQ32/FBB
      >
      >
      >
      > If anyone has a guess??
      >
      >
      >
      > 73 jerry
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > 73 Jerry Kutche N9LYA
      >
      > ARRL Net Manager Indiana Section - Packet Net
      >
      > HF Skipnet Coordinator
      >
      > IP Coordinator Indiana
      >
      > Packet Coordinator Indiana
      >
      > http://www.n9lya.com
      >
      > http://www.w9otr.org
      >
      > http://www.indianapacketcouncil.org
      >
      > http://www.mitchellwx.com
      >
      >
      >
      >



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    • Peter Mallett
      ... Hi Jerry, I should have asked what system you are running in the way of FBB ? Do you have a command `O` in your forward file ? Is the Timeout actually
      Message 2 of 11 , Aug 28, 2009
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        Jerry - N9LYA wrote:
         

        HI James.. Ok let me know...

        -----Original Message-----
        From: BPQ32@yahoogroups. com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
        james@...
        Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:54 PM
        To: BPQ32@yahoogroups. com
        Subject: Re: [BPQ32] HF Forwarding time out

        You are a bit old for that!
        Hee hee

        WU3V
        via BlackBerry

        -----Original Message-----
        From: WS7I <ws7ik7tj@gmail. com>

        Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:05:36
        To: <BPQ32@yahoogroups. com>
        Subject: Re: [BPQ32] HF Forwarding time out

        300 Ms I would say. Used to run HF on 10 Mhz cluster to cluster. Let
        me see if I can find those old files.

        On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Jerry - N9LYA<n9lya@blueriver. net> wrote:
        >
        >
        > Hi Guys.. I am setting HF forwarding on 40 meters to KQ0I and we get going
        > very well.. But shortly I send a disconnect. It says it's Timeout!!!
        >
        >
        >
        > It does not seem like much time had passed since forwarding started. Band
        is
        > somewhat bad But even when good I send this disconnect.. Any ideas.
        >
        >
        >
        > Maybe something is set to a short time delay because I never forwarded on
        HF
        > with this setup of BPQ32/FBB
        >
        >
        >
        > If anyone has a guess??
        >
        >
        >
        > 73 jerry
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > 73 Jerry Kutche N9LYA
        >
        > ARRL Net Manager Indiana Section - Packet Net
        >
        > HF Skipnet Coordinator
        >
        > IP Coordinator Indiana
        >
        > Packet Coordinator Indiana
        >
        > http://www.n9lya. com
        >
        > http://www.w9otr. org
        >
        > http://www.indianap acketcouncil. org
        >
        > http://www.mitchell wx.com
        >
        >
        >
        >

        --
        Jay WS7I

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        Hi Jerry,

                     I should have asked what system you are running in the way of FBB ?

        Do you have a command `O` in your forward file ?

        Is the Timeout actually being sent from your FBB or the other end ?

        Regards ..... Peter

      • D Calder
        Yes, it won t have any effect. If it doesn t see him in a couple minutes, it s done for me on my 20 Meter port. Is there any errors? Or he just goes away?
        Message 3 of 11 , Aug 28, 2009
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          Yes, it won’t have any effect. If it doesn’t see him in a couple minutes, it’s done for me on my 20 Meter

          port. Is there any errors? Or he just goes away?

           

           

           

          From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerry - N9LYA
          Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 5:04 AM
          To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: RE: [BPQ32] HF Forwarding time out

           

           

          Hi Peter.. Thanks for the idea.. I did try it was set at 10 minutes.. But the timeout occurs in less then two minutes of a forwarding session???

           

          Changing this setting did not delay the time out any longer…

           

          Many thanks Jerry

           


          From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Mallett
          Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:19 PM
          To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [BPQ32] HF Forwarding time out

           

           

          Jerry - N9LYA wrote:

           

          Hi Guys.. I am setting HF forwarding on 40 meters to KQ0I and we get going very well.. But shortly I send a disconnect. It says it’s Timeout!!!

           

          It does not seem like much time had passed since forwarding started… Band is somewhat bad But even when good I send this disconnect.. Any ideas…

           

          Maybe something is set to a short time delay because I never forwarded on HF with this setup of BPQ32/FBB

           

          If anyone has a guess??

           

          73 jerry

           

           

           

          73 Jerry Kutche N9LYA

          ARRL Net Manager Indiana Section – Packet Net

          HF Skipnet Coordinator

          IP Coordinator Indiana

          Packet Coordinator Indiana

          http://www.n9lya.com

          http://www.w9otr.org

          http://www.indianapacketcouncil.org

          http://www.mitchellwx.com

           


          Hi Jerry,

                       Check in your FBB Config for the  "Users / Forward" timeout, for forward on HF, you could set this upwards of 20 ( 20 minutes ).

          Here I use, Timeout = 20 20

          Regards ...... Peter

        • D Calder
          My 20 Meter port settings if that helps. DRSI though. PORT PORTNUM=2 ; Optional but sets port number if stated ID=14.098 MHz
          Message 4 of 11 , Aug 28, 2009
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            My 20 Meter port settings if that helps. DRSI though.

             

            PORT

             PORTNUM=2                    ; Optional but sets port number if stated

             ID=14.098 MHz                 ; Displayed by PORTS command

             TYPE=DRSI

             PROTOCOL=HDLC

             IOADDR=310H

             INTLEVEL=3

             FULLDUP=0                       ; Only meaningful for KISS devices

             SPEED=300                        

             CHANNEL=B                      ; A for single channel TNC, A or B for multichannel

             PERSIST=64                        ; PERSIST=256/(# of transmitters-1)

             SLOTTIME=100                 ; CMSA interval timer in milliseconds

             TXDELAY=450                    ; Transmit keyup delay in milliseconds

             TXTAIL=30                          ; TX key down, in milliseconds, at packet end

             QUALITY=192                    ; Quality factor applied to node broadcasts heard on

             MINQUAL=168                 ; Entries in the nodes table with qualities greater or

             MAXFRAME=1                 ; Max outstanding frames (1 thru 7)

             FRACK=7000                      ; Level 2 timout in milliseconds

             RESPTIME=1500               ; Level 2 delayed ack timer in milliseconds

             RETRIES=10                        ; Level 2 maximum retry value

             PACLEN=80                        ; Default max packet length for this port

             UNPROTO=BPQ32          ; BTEXT broadcast addrs format: DEST[,digi1[,digi2]]

             BCALL=N4ZKF                   ; BTEXT call. unstated defaults to APPL1CALL

             L3ONLY=0                           ; 1=No user downlink connects on this port

             DIGIFLAG=1                      ; Digipeat: 0=OFF, 1=ALL, 255=UI Only

             DIGIPORT=0                      ; Port on which to send digi'd frames (0 = same port)

             USERS=0                             ; Maximum number of L2 sessions, 0 = no limit

            ENDPORT

             

             

            n4zkf

            n4zkf@...

            www.n4zkf.com

             

             

             

             

            From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerry - N9LYA
            Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:48 PM
            To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [BPQ32] HF Forwarding time out

             

             

            Hi Guys.. I am setting HF forwarding on 40 meters to KQ0I and we get going very well.. But shortly I send a disconnect. It says it’s Timeout!!!

             

            It does not seem like much time had passed since forwarding started… Band is somewhat bad But even when good I send this disconnect.. Any ideas…

             

            Maybe something is set to a short time delay because I never forwarded on HF with this setup of BPQ32/FBB

             

            If anyone has a guess??

             

            73 jerry

             

             

             

            73 Jerry Kutche N9LYA

            ARRL Net Manager Indiana Section – Packet Net

            HF Skipnet Coordinator

            IP Coordinator Indiana

            Packet Coordinator Indiana

            http://www.n9lya.com

            http://www.w9otr.org

            http://www.indianapacketcouncil.org

            http://www.mitchellwx.com

             

          • n9lya
            It just disconnects and says Timeout! in the monitor window. ????????? Making it impossible to forward anything... 73 jerry
            Message 5 of 11 , Aug 28, 2009
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              It just disconnects and says Timeout!
              in the monitor window.

              ?????????

              Making it impossible to forward anything...

              73 jerry


              --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, "D Calder" <n4zkf@...> wrote:
              >
              > Yes, it won't have any effect. If it doesn't see him in a couple minutes,
              > it's done for me on my 20 Meter
              >
              > port. Is there any errors? Or he just goes away?
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
              > Jerry - N9LYA
              > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 5:04 AM
              > To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
              > Subject: RE: [BPQ32] HF Forwarding time out
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > Hi Peter.. Thanks for the idea.. I did try it was set at 10 minutes.. But
              > the timeout occurs in less then two minutes of a forwarding session???
              >
              >
              >
              > Changing this setting did not delay the time out any longer.
              >
              >
              >
              > Many thanks Jerry
              >
              >
              >
              > _____
              >
              > From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
              > Peter Mallett
              > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:19 PM
              > To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
              > Subject: Re: [BPQ32] HF Forwarding time out
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > Jerry - N9LYA wrote:
              >
              >
              >
              > Hi Guys.. I am setting HF forwarding on 40 meters to KQ0I and we get going
              > very well.. But shortly I send a disconnect. It says it's Timeout!!!
              >
              >
              >
              > It does not seem like much time had passed since forwarding started. Band is
              > somewhat bad But even when good I send this disconnect.. Any ideas.
              >
              >
              >
              > Maybe something is set to a short time delay because I never forwarded on HF
              > with this setup of BPQ32/FBB
              >
              >
              >
              > If anyone has a guess??
              >
              >
              >
              > 73 jerry
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > 73 Jerry Kutche N9LYA
              >
              > ARRL Net Manager Indiana Section - Packet Net
              >
              > HF Skipnet Coordinator
              >
              > IP Coordinator Indiana
              >
              > Packet Coordinator Indiana
              >
              > http://www.n9lya.com <http://www.n9lya.com/>
              >
              > http://www.w9otr.org <http://www.w9otr.org/>
              >
              > http://www.indianapacketcouncil.org <http://www.indianapacketcouncil.org/>
              >
              > <http://www.mitchellwx.com/> http://www.mitchellwx.com
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > Hi Jerry,
              >
              > Check in your FBB Config for the "Users / Forward" timeout,
              > for forward on HF, you could set this upwards of 20 ( 20 minutes ).
              >
              > Here I use, Timeout = 20 20
              >
              > Regards ...... Peter
              >
            • WS7I
              Sounds like to me your HF BPQCFG settings are not right. MaxFrame should be 1 or maybe 2, that is the wait I was speaking too. The TNC settings. ... -- Jay
              Message 6 of 11 , Aug 28, 2009
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                Sounds like to me your HF BPQCFG settings are not right. MaxFrame
                should be 1 or maybe 2, that is the
                wait I was speaking too. The TNC settings.

                On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:03 AM, Jerry - N9LYA<n9lya@...> wrote:
                >
                >
                > Hi Peter.. Thanks for the idea.. I did try it was set at 10 minutes.. But
                > the timeout occurs in less then two minutes of a forwarding session???
                >
                >
                >
                > Changing this setting did not delay the time out any longer…
                >
                >
                >
                > Many thanks Jerry
                >
                >
                >
                > ________________________________
                >
                > From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
                > Peter Mallett
                > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:19 PM
                >
                > To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                > Subject: Re: [BPQ32] HF Forwarding time out
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > Jerry - N9LYA wrote:
                >
                >
                >
                > Hi Guys.. I am setting HF forwarding on 40 meters to KQ0I and we get going
                > very well.. But shortly I send a disconnect. It says it’s Timeout!!!
                >
                >
                >
                > It does not seem like much time had passed since forwarding started… Band is
                > somewhat bad But even when good I send this disconnect.. Any ideas…
                >
                >
                >
                > Maybe something is set to a short time delay because I never forwarded on HF
                > with this setup of BPQ32/FBB
                >
                >
                >
                > If anyone has a guess??
                >
                >
                >
                > 73 jerry
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > 73 Jerry Kutche N9LYA
                >
                > ARRL Net Manager Indiana Section – Packet Net
                >
                > HF Skipnet Coordinator
                >
                > IP Coordinator Indiana
                >
                > Packet Coordinator Indiana
                >
                > http://www.n9lya.com
                >
                > http://www.w9otr.org
                >
                > http://www.indianapacketcouncil.org
                >
                > http://www.mitchellwx.com
                >
                >
                >
                > Hi Jerry,
                >
                >              Check in your FBB Config for the  "Users / Forward" timeout,
                > for forward on HF, you could set this upwards of 20 ( 20 minutes ).
                >
                > Here I use, Timeout = 20 20
                >
                > Regards ...... Peter
                >
                >



                --
                Jay WS7I
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