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Re: [BPQ32] New BBS and Chat/Converse Software

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  • brian cochran
    Thank. You! I ve been looking for a bbs software to replace the old dos fbb my ares group has been using as the machine is almost dead. Sounds great let me
    Message 1 of 27 , Jun 23, 2009
      Re: [BPQ32] New BBS and Chat/Converse Software

      Thank. You!
      I've been looking for a bbs software to replace the old dos fbb my ares group has been using as the machine is almost dead.
      Sounds great let me know when your ready to beta test!


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      ----- Original Message -----
      From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <BPQ32@yahoogroups.com>
      To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <BPQ32@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Tue Jun 23 10:07:48 2009
      Subject: [BPQ32] New BBS and Chat/Converse Software



      I've decided to write a BBS and Chat (Converse) program specifically designed to interface to BPQ32. Although there are a number of perfectly adequate BBS programs about, none interface to BPQ32 particularly cleanly, and very few are still supported.

      My current outline spec follows, but I'd welcome any suggestions on features you would like to see. The BBS and Chat features will probably be in the same program, but either may be disabled if not required.

      BBS.

      Basic Mailbox Functions (handling personal mail and bulletins).

      All configuration via dialogs (no files to edit);

      MBL/RLI standard forwarding and FBB-compatible compressed forwarding over ax.25 and netrom.

      POP3 and SMTP servers, allowing a standard Internet mail client (e.g. Outlook) to send messages to, and receive messages from the BBS. This will initially only accept connections from the local host, but could be extended (e.g. to accepting connects from the local LAN) if I can be convinced that it would not be a major security/SPAM risk.

      Ability to send locally input messages to an Internet email account, and receive responses back from the recipient.


      Chat Server.

      Networked chat/converse node,  similar to FastChat, but with named topics





      Any comments/suggestions would be appreciated.

      73, John G8BPQ








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    • Jeff Thomas - WA4ZKO
      You re my hero! Guess we ll have to buy you a case of your favorite beer ;-) I d be gun shy of the POP/SMTP exposure. Heck, just a good modern (aka actively
      Message 2 of 27 , Jun 23, 2009
        You're my hero! Guess we'll have to buy you a case of your favorite beer ;-)

        I'd be gun shy of the POP/SMTP exposure.

        Heck, just a good modern (aka actively developed) version of FBB compatible BBS software without the bugs, built to run on Win32, TCP/IP savvy, and native support for BPQ32 would be a wonderful start IMHO.

        I'm sure the BBS guru's can probably help with a list of long standing issues and "love to haves" for you.

        73
        Jeff
        WA4ZKO

        --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, "John Wiseman" <john.wiseman@...> wrote:
        >
        > I've decided to write a BBS and Chat (Converse) program specifically
        > designed to interface to BPQ32. Although there are a number of perfectly
        > adequate BBS programs about, none interface to BPQ32 particularly
        > cleanly, and very few are still supported.
        >
        > My current outline spec follows, but I'd welcome any suggestions on
        > features you would like to see. The BBS and Chat features will probably
        > be in the same program, but either may be disabled if not required.
        >
        > BBS.
        >
        > Basic Mailbox Functions (handling personal mail and bulletins).
        >
        > All configuration via dialogs (no files to edit);
        >
        > MBL/RLI standard forwarding and FBB-compatible compressed forwarding
        > over ax.25 and netrom.
        >
        > POP3 and SMTP servers, allowing a standard Internet mail client (e.g.
        > Outlook) to send messages to, and receive messages from the BBS. This
        > will initially only accept connections from the local host, but could be
        > extended (e.g. to accepting connects from the local LAN) if I can be
        > convinced that it would not be a major security/SPAM risk.
        >
        > Ability to send locally input messages to an Internet email account, and
        > receive responses back from the recipient.
        >
        >
        > Chat Server.
        >
        > Networked chat/converse node, similar to FastChat, but with named
        > topics
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > Any comments/suggestions would be appreciated.
        >
        > 73, John G8BPQ
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=15699127/grpspId=1705063108/
        > msgId=1976/stime=1243624092/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3>
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      • KG5KS - Kenny Thompson
        Great news John!! We Appreciate you doing this. I use FBB PBBS, BPQ32, RMS- Packet on Win 2000 pro machine. Be nice to get an integrated package. Thank you
        Message 3 of 27 , Jun 23, 2009
          Great news John!!  We Appreciate you doing this.  I use FBB PBBS, BPQ32, RMS- Packet on Win 2000 pro machine.  Be nice to get an integrated package. 
           
          Thank you
          73
          Kenny
          ARS KG5KS


          From: John Wiseman <john.wiseman@...>
          To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:07:48 AM
          Subject: [BPQ32] New BBS and Chat/Converse Software

          I've decided to write a BBS and Chat (Converse) program specifically designed to interface to BPQ32. Although there are a number of perfectly adequate BBS programs about, none interface to BPQ32 particularly cleanly, and very few are still supported.

          My current outline spec follows, but I'd welcome any suggestions on features you would like to see. The BBS and Chat features will probably be in the same program, but either may be disabled if not required.

          BBS.

          Basic Mailbox Functions (handling personal mail and bulletins).

          All configuration via dialogs (no files to edit);

          MBL/RLI standard forwarding and FBB-compatible compressed forwarding over ax.25 and netrom.

          POP3 and SMTP servers, allowing a standard Internet mail client (e.g. Outlook) to send messages to, and receive messages from the BBS. This will initially only accept connections from the local host, but could be extended (e.g. to accepting connects from the local LAN) if I can be convinced that it would not be a major security/SPAM risk.

          Ability to send locally input messages to an Internet email account, and receive responses back from the recipient.


          Chat Server.

          Networked chat/converse node,  similar to FastChat, but with named topics

           

           

          Any comments/suggestion s would be appreciated.

          73, John G8BPQ

           

           




        • KG5KS - Kenny Thompson
          Wondering if Outpost or Winpack programs also could be used with BPQ32? Appreciate all of your hard work John. Thank you 73 Kenny ARS KG5KS
          Message 4 of 27 , Jun 23, 2009
            Wondering if Outpost or Winpack programs also could be used with BPQ32?

            Appreciate all of your hard work John.
             
            Thank you
            73
            Kenny
            ARS KG5KS



            From: John Wiseman <john.wiseman@...>
            To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:07:48 AM
            Subject: [BPQ32] New BBS and Chat/Converse Software

            I've decided to write a BBS and Chat (Converse) program specifically designed to interface to BPQ32. Although there are a number of perfectly adequate BBS programs about, none interface to BPQ32 particularly cleanly, and very few are still supported.

            My current outline spec follows, but I'd welcome any suggestions on features you would like to see. The BBS and Chat features will probably be in the same program, but either may be disabled if not required.

            BBS.

            Basic Mailbox Functions (handling personal mail and bulletins).

            All configuration via dialogs (no files to edit);

            MBL/RLI standard forwarding and FBB-compatible compressed forwarding over ax.25 and netrom.

            POP3 and SMTP servers, allowing a standard Internet mail client (e.g. Outlook) to send messages to, and receive messages from the BBS. This will initially only accept connections from the local host, but could be extended (e.g. to accepting connects from the local LAN) if I can be convinced that it would not be a major security/SPAM risk.

            Ability to send locally input messages to an Internet email account, and receive responses back from the recipient.


            Chat Server.

            Networked chat/converse node,  similar to FastChat, but with named topics

             

             

            Any comments/suggestion s would be appreciated.

            73, John G8BPQ

             

             




          • Wm Lewis
            John: Could the Converse server integrate with both the NOS Converse server AND the xrouter converse scheme ? It looked as if Paula had intended that... I
            Message 5 of 27 , Jun 23, 2009
              John:
               
              Could the Converse server integrate with both the NOS Converse server 'AND' the xrouter converse scheme ?
               
              It looked as if Paula had intended that... I think..
               
              I seem to remember that using Xrouter chat, if you entered a room number with a negative number, like room # -98 you were to be linking with the NOS converse room 98.
               
              I also seem to remember that someone else that an Xrouter system was linked to had to actaully do the linking of the servers. Xrouter alone could not link the two chat systems.
               
              It would be nice if there was a way to integrate the two.
               
              Just wishful thinking
               
              Bill
              KG6BAJ - Grass Valley
               

              To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
              From: john.wiseman@...
              Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:07:48 +0100
              Subject: [BPQ32] New BBS and Chat/Converse Software



              I've decided to write a BBS and Chat (Converse) program specifically designed to interface to BPQ32. Although there are a number of perfectly adequate BBS programs about, none interface to BPQ32 particularly cleanly, and very few are still supported.

              My current outline spec follows, but I'd welcome any suggestions on features you would like to see. The BBS and Chat features will probably be in the same program, but either may be disabled if not required.

              BBS.

              Basic Mailbox Functions (handling personal mail and bulletins).
              All configuration via dialogs (no files to edit);

              MBL/RLI standard forwarding and FBB-compatible compressed forwarding over ax.25 and netrom.

              POP3 and SMTP servers, allowing a standard Internet mail client (e.g. Outlook) to send messages to, and receive messages from the BBS. This will initially only accept connections from the local host, but could be extended (e.g. to accepting connects from the local LAN) if I can be convinced that it would not be a major security/SPAM risk.

              Ability to send locally input messages to an Internet email account, and receive responses back from the recipient.


              Chat Server.
              Networked chat/converse node,  similar to FastChat, but with named topics
               
               
              Any comments/suggestions would be appreciated.
              73, John G8BPQ
               
               







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            • Danny PD0SNK
              Hi John. Great news ! :) Is Unproto beacon also supported for use with TsTHwin and Winpack ? 73 s Danny PD0SNK
              Message 6 of 27 , Jun 23, 2009
                Hi John.
                 
                Great news ! :)
                 
                Is Unproto beacon also supported for use with TsTHwin and Winpack ?
                 
                73's Danny PD0SNK
              • John Wiseman
                Bill, At the moment the protocol is compatible with Hank W0RLI s Roundtable server, but not the NOS converse system. This may change, or maybe a gateway could
                Message 7 of 27 , Jun 23, 2009
                  Message
                  Bill,
                   
                  At the moment the protocol is compatible with Hank W0RLI's Roundtable server, but not the NOS converse system. This may change, or maybe a gateway could be produced to link the systems. I'll bear this in mind.
                   
                   
                  John
                   
                  -----Original Message-----
                  From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Wm Lewis
                  Sent: 23 June 2009 21:49
                  To: bpq32@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: RE: [BPQ32] New BBS and Chat/Converse Software

                  John:
                   
                  Could the Converse server integrate with both the NOS Converse server 'AND' the xrouter converse scheme ?
                   
                  It looked as if Paula had intended that... I think..
                   
                  I seem to remember that using Xrouter chat, if you entered a room number with a negative number, like room # -98 you were to be linking with the NOS converse room 98.
                   
                  I also seem to remember that someone else that an Xrouter system was linked to had to actaully do the linking of the servers. Xrouter alone could not link the two chat systems.
                   
                  It would be nice if there was a way to integrate the two.
                   
                  Just wishful thinking
                   
                  Bill
                  KG6BAJ - Grass Valley
                   


                  To: BPQ32@yahoogroups. com
                  From: john.wiseman@ ntlworld. com
                  Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:07:48 +0100
                  Subject: [BPQ32] New BBS and Chat/Converse Software



                  I've decided to write a BBS and Chat (Converse) program specifically designed to interface to BPQ32. Although there are a number of perfectly adequate BBS programs about, none interface to BPQ32 particularly cleanly, and very few are still supported.

                  My current outline spec follows, but I'd welcome any suggestions on features you would like to see. The BBS and Chat features will probably be in the same program, but either may be disabled if not required.

                  BBS.

                  Basic Mailbox Functions (handling personal mail and bulletins).
                  All configuration via dialogs (no files to edit);

                  MBL/RLI standard forwarding and FBB-compatible compressed forwarding over ax.25 and netrom.

                  POP3 and SMTP servers, allowing a standard Internet mail client (e.g. Outlook) to send messages to, and receive messages from the BBS. This will initially only accept connections from the local host, but could be extended (e.g. to accepting connects from the local LAN) if I can be convinced that it would not be a major security/SPAM risk.

                  Ability to send locally input messages to an Internet email account, and receive responses back from the recipient.


                  Chat Server.
                  Networked chat/converse node,  similar to FastChat, but with named topics
                   
                   
                  Any comments/suggestion s would be appreciated.
                  73, John G8BPQ
                   
                   







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                • John Wiseman
                  I ll add that to the feature list. John ... From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Danny PD0SNK Sent: 23 June 2009 21:50 To:
                  Message 8 of 27 , Jun 23, 2009
                    Message
                    I'll add that to the feature list.
                     
                     
                    John
                     
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                    From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Danny PD0SNK
                    Sent: 23 June 2009 21:50
                    To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                    Subject: [BPQ32] Re:New BBS and Chat/Converse Software

                    Hi John.
                     
                    Great news ! :)
                     
                    Is Unproto beacon also supported for use with TsTHwin and Winpack ?
                     
                    73's Danny PD0SNK



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                  • John Wiseman
                    Winpack can be used with the bpq switch, and forwarding betwen the new BBS and Winpack shouldn t be a problem. As I understand it, Outpost is a front end for
                    Message 9 of 27 , Jun 23, 2009
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                      Winpack can be used with the bpq switch, and forwarding betwen the new BBS and Winpack shouldn't be a problem.
                       
                      As I understand it, Outpost is a "front end" for existing Packet BBS programs, giving an email client like interface. This won't be necessary, as you will be able to use a normal email client directly to the bbs, but it would probably work, or be easily made to work.
                       
                       
                      John
                       
                      -----Original Message-----
                      From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of KG5KS - Kenny Thompson
                      Sent: 23 June 2009 19:46
                      To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                      Subject: Re: [BPQ32] New BBS and Chat/Converse Software

                      Wondering if Outpost or Winpack programs also could be used with BPQ32?

                      Appreciate all of your hard work John.
                       
                      Thank you
                      73
                      Kenny
                      ARS KG5KS



                      From: John Wiseman <john.wiseman@ ntlworld. com>
                      To: BPQ32@yahoogroups. com
                      Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:07:48 AM
                      Subject: [BPQ32] New BBS and Chat/Converse Software

                      I've decided to write a BBS and Chat (Converse) program specifically designed to interface to BPQ32. Although there are a number of perfectly adequate BBS programs about, none interface to BPQ32 particularly cleanly, and very few are still supported.

                      My current outline spec follows, but I'd welcome any suggestions on features you would like to see. The BBS and Chat features will probably be in the same program, but either may be disabled if not required.

                      BBS.

                      Basic Mailbox Functions (handling personal mail and bulletins).

                      All configuration via dialogs (no files to edit);

                      MBL/RLI standard forwarding and FBB-compatible compressed forwarding over ax.25 and netrom.

                      POP3 and SMTP servers, allowing a standard Internet mail client (e.g. Outlook) to send messages to, and receive messages from the BBS. This will initially only accept connections from the local host, but could be extended (e.g. to accepting connects from the local LAN) if I can be convinced that it would not be a major security/SPAM risk.

                      Ability to send locally input messages to an Internet email account, and receive responses back from the recipient.


                      Chat Server.

                      Networked chat/converse node,  similar to FastChat, but with named topics

                       

                       

                      Any comments/suggestion s would be appreciated.

                      73, John G8BPQ

                       

                       






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                    • dshults
                      Excellent news John! My short wish list: - White Pages server. - Remote request directory and file server. - Interface to the SCS PCT line of tnc s (more of a
                      Message 10 of 27 , Jun 23, 2009
                        Excellent news John!
                        My short wish list:
                        - White Pages server.
                        - Remote request directory and file server.
                        - Interface to the SCS PCT line of tnc's (more of a node feature).
                        - Rig control for HF scanning and forwarding.
                        - Logging of all system transactions (for separate metrics analysis).
                        - Echo server.

                        How exciting....

                        73, Duane N7QDN


                        --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, "John Wiseman" <john.wiseman@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > I've decided to write a BBS and Chat (Converse) program specifically
                        > designed to interface to BPQ32. Although there are a number of perfectly
                        > adequate BBS programs about, none interface to BPQ32 particularly
                        > cleanly, and very few are still supported.
                        >
                        > My current outline spec follows, but I'd welcome any suggestions on
                        > features you would like to see. The BBS and Chat features will probably
                        > be in the same program, but either may be disabled if not required.
                        >
                        > BBS.
                        >
                        > Basic Mailbox Functions (handling personal mail and bulletins).
                        >
                        > All configuration via dialogs (no files to edit);
                        >
                        > MBL/RLI standard forwarding and FBB-compatible compressed forwarding
                        > over ax.25 and netrom.
                        >
                        > POP3 and SMTP servers, allowing a standard Internet mail client (e.g.
                        > Outlook) to send messages to, and receive messages from the BBS. This
                        > will initially only accept connections from the local host, but could be
                        > extended (e.g. to accepting connects from the local LAN) if I can be
                        > convinced that it would not be a major security/SPAM risk.
                        >
                        > Ability to send locally input messages to an Internet email account, and
                        > receive responses back from the recipient.
                        >
                        >
                        > Chat Server.
                        >
                        > Networked chat/converse node, similar to FastChat, but with named
                        > topics
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > Any comments/suggestions would be appreciated.
                        >
                        > 73, John G8BPQ
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
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                        > msgId=1976/stime=1243624092/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3>
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                      • gervais
                        Re: [BPQ32] New BBS and Chat/Converse Softwarehi John it will also depends on How do we install it,the bbs? can BPQ32 be part of the BBS package? it will be
                        Message 11 of 27 , Jun 23, 2009
                          Re: [BPQ32] New BBS and Chat/Converse Software
                          hi John
                          it will also depends on How do we install it,the bbs?
                          can BPQ32 be part of the BBS package?
                           
                          it will be interesting to see it.
                          Great news
                           
                          73/s
                          gervais,ve2ckn
                          BBS VE2RXY
                           
                           

                          Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 10:13 AM
                          Subject: Re: [BPQ32] New BBS and Chat/Converse Software

                          Thank. You!
                          I've been looking for a bbs software to replace the old dos fbb my ares group has been using as the machine is almost dead.
                          Sounds great let me know when your ready to beta test!


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                          ----- Original Message -----
                          From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <BPQ32@yahoogroups.com>
                          To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com <BPQ32@yahoogroups.com>
                          Sent: Tue Jun 23 10:07:48 2009
                          Subject: [BPQ32] New BBS and Chat/Converse Software



                          I've decided to write a BBS and Chat (Converse) program specifically designed to interface to BPQ32. Although there are a number of perfectly adequate BBS programs about, none interface to BPQ32 particularly cleanly, and very few are still supported.

                          My current outline spec follows, but I'd welcome any suggestions on features you would like to see. The BBS and Chat features will probably be in the same program, but either may be disabled if not required.

                          BBS.

                          Basic Mailbox Functions (handling personal mail and bulletins).

                          All configuration via dialogs (no files to edit);

                          MBL/RLI standard forwarding and FBB-compatible compressed forwarding over ax.25 and netrom.

                          POP3 and SMTP servers, allowing a standard Internet mail client (e.g. Outlook) to send messages to, and receive messages from the BBS. This will initially only accept connections from the local host, but could be extended (e.g. to accepting connects from the local LAN) if I can be convinced that it would not be a major security/SPAM risk.

                          Ability to send locally input messages to an Internet email account, and receive responses back from the recipient.


                          Chat Server.

                          Networked chat/converse node,  similar to FastChat, but with named topics





                          Any comments/suggestions would be appreciated.

                          73, John G8BPQ








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                        • Peter Mallett
                          Hi John and the group, Excellent news to hear, I will be following progress very closely. I would also like to see native dumb Modem ( Baycom ) drivers for
                          Message 12 of 27 , Jun 23, 2009
                            Hi John and the group,

                            Excellent news to hear, I will be following progress very closely.

                            I would also like to see native dumb Modem ( Baycom ) drivers for serial
                            ports and possibly parallel ports.

                            A method to export a mail.in file ready to email or perhaps an smtp
                            client to automate the process when it is necessary to email a BBS
                            forward if the partners BBS is down for an extended length of time.

                            A built in 7+ server

                            A full Node with AXUDP facilities like Xrouter does as I haven`t seen
                            any progress on that front for some years now and it`s looking more like
                            we are not going to see any more updates.

                            Can be run either _with_ or without _password_ structure.

                            I am sure there are a whole lot more things but thats me for now.

                            Looking forward to seeing it develop, if you would like a tester in NZ,
                            don`t hesitate to yell.

                            Regards ..... Peter
                          • Charles Brabham
                            Is it possible to have a special version, identifiable on the air by version number perhaps, that has no provision for non-ham forwarding or access? I am part
                            Message 13 of 27 , Jun 23, 2009
                              Is it possible to have a special version, identifiable on the air by version number perhaps, that has no provision for non-ham forwarding or access?
                               
                              I am part of a group that is trying to put together an all-ham digital network, completely independent of non-ham resources. The rationale is:
                               
                              "Amateurs radio operators are the only group of private individuals in the world who have the ways and means to fund, build and maintain a worldwide communications network, independent of the internet and commercial or government entities. This is our own mount Everest, that only we may climb 'because it is there' only for ham radio operators like ourselves."

                              A special, all-ham version of the software would be useful for ensuring compliance by HRN participants, eliminating controversy and doubt. - We would simply require the use of the special software. As it is, we experience problems with hams who pretend to be using radio when in fact they do not. - We'd like to see what can be done with radio, and a special radio-only version of the software would be good for this.

                              I am not suggesting that this be the only version released, this is a request for a special-purpose version of the software for use by members of a new, all-ham network.

                              Take it easy!

                              73 DE Charles, N5PVL

                               

                               

                            • Lynn
                              I for one think that would be wonderful. I can t imagine the work that is required. It seems to me that with a renewed interest in packet and its use in
                              Message 14 of 27 , Jun 23, 2009
                                I for one think that would be wonderful. I can't imagine the work that
                                is required.
                                It seems to me that with a renewed interest in packet and its use in
                                emergency communications,
                                a new packet packet that works with a proven platform is greatly needed.

                                I wish there was some way I (or we) could help, John.

                                Lynn - KB3FN
                              • John Wiseman
                                Peter and the group, As the BBS is designed to work as a BPQ32 application, it will have access to the full node facilites, including ax/udp, that BPQ32
                                Message 15 of 27 , Jun 24, 2009
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                                  Peter and the group,
                                   
                                  As the BBS is designed to work as a BPQ32 application, it will have access to the full node facilites, including ax/udp, that BPQ32 provides. Issues such as the Baycom drivers would be part of the base BPQ32 development, rather than the BBS software. I did in fact start looking at a Baycom Serial Modem driver last winter, and it should be possible to write one for the W2K/XP platform, but only for machines with real (ie not USB) serial ports, and these are getting more difficult to find. I do have a Baycom Parallel port 9600 modem, but I'm not sure if I have an interface spec for it.
                                   
                                  FIle Export/Import will be included in some form, but I haven't decided exactly what yet. Likewise I haven't decided yet what SMTP/Telnet facilites to include. I'd love to see an all amateur network with no need for linking over the Internet, but accept that is not possible at the moment. If we have to use the Internet, I don't feel telnet is the right choice, but as my software will have to interface to other systems it may be unavoidable.
                                   
                                  My original intention was not to include 7+ and related stuff such as REQFIL/REQIR, as I suppose I see the system as primarily for messaging rather than file transfer, but this has been mentioned by a few of you, so I hay reconsider.
                                   
                                  I'm not sure what you mean by with or without password structure.
                                   
                                   
                                  73,
                                  John
                                   
                                   
                                   
                                  -----Original Message-----
                                  From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Mallett
                                  Sent: 24 June 2009 00:23
                                  To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                                  Subject: Re: [BPQ32] New BBS and Chat/Converse Software


                                  Hi John and the group,

                                  Excellent news to hear, I will be following progress very closely.

                                  I would also like to see native dumb Modem ( Baycom ) drivers for serial
                                  ports and possibly parallel ports.

                                  A method to export a mail.in file ready to email or perhaps an smtp
                                  client to automate the process when it is necessary to email a BBS
                                  forward if the partners BBS is down for an extended length of time.

                                  A built in 7+ server

                                  A full Node with AXUDP facilities like Xrouter does as I haven`t seen
                                  any progress on that front for some years now and it`s looking more like
                                  we are not going to see any more updates.

                                  Can be run either _with_ or without _password_ structure.

                                  I am sure there are a whole lot more things but thats me for now.

                                  Looking forward to seeing it develop, if you would like a tester in NZ,
                                  don`t hesitate to yell.

                                  Regards ..... Peter



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                                • John Wiseman
                                  Charles, I d love to see an all-ham netwrok, as in fact we had in the early 90 s. However, I m not sure how feasible it would be to produce a system which made
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                                    Charles,
                                     
                                    I'd love to see an all-ham netwrok, as in fact we had in the early 90's. However, I'm not sure how feasible it would be to produce a system which made it impossiblre to "cheat" Even if I disabled the obvious Internet facilities like AXIP/UDP and telnet, it would be possible to set up a serial port tunnel which looked to the software  like a KISS TNC, but actually went over the Internet. In the end I think it will have to come down to honesty and trust.
                                     
                                     
                                    73,
                                    John
                                     
                                    -----Original Message-----
                                    From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Charles Brabham
                                    Sent: 24 June 2009 01:39
                                    To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
                                    Subject: Re: [BPQ32] New BBS and Chat/Converse Software

                                    Is it possible to have a special version, identifiable on the air by version number perhaps, that has no provision for non-ham forwarding or access?
                                     
                                    I am part of a group that is trying to put together an all-ham digital network, completely independent of non-ham resources. The rationale is:
                                     
                                    "Amateurs radio operators are the only group of private individuals in the world who have the ways and means to fund, build and maintain a worldwide communications network, independent of the internet and commercial or government entities. This is our own mount Everest, that only we may climb 'because it is there' only for ham radio operators like ourselves."

                                    A special, all-ham version of the software would be useful for ensuring compliance by HRN participants, eliminating controversy and doubt. - We would simply require the use of the special software. As it is, we experience problems with hams who pretend to be using radio when in fact they do not. - We'd like to see what can be done with radio, and a special radio-only version of the software would be good for this.

                                    I am not suggesting that this be the only version released, this is a request for a special-purpose version of the software for use by members of a new, all-ham network.

                                    Take it easy!

                                    73 DE Charles, N5PVL

                                     

                                     



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                                  • Peter Mallett
                                    ... Hi John and the Group, What I was meaning by the password structure is that a sysop can configure the system to require a password to gain access or leave
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                                      Peter and the group,
                                       
                                      As the BBS is designed to work as a BPQ32 application, it will have access to the full node facilites, including ax/udp, that BPQ32 provides. Issues such as the Baycom drivers would be part of the base BPQ32 development, rather than the BBS software. I did in fact start looking at a Baycom Serial Modem driver last winter, and it should be possible to write one for the W2K/XP platform, but only for machines with real (ie not USB) serial ports, and these are getting more difficult to find. I do have a Baycom Parallel port 9600 modem, but I'm not sure if I have an interface spec for it.
                                       
                                      FIle Export/Import will be included in some form, but I haven't decided exactly what yet. Likewise I haven't decided yet what SMTP/Telnet facilites to include. I'd love to see an all amateur network with no need for linking over the Internet, but accept that is not possible at the moment. If we have to use the Internet, I don't feel telnet is the right choice, but as my software will have to interface to other systems it may be unavoidable.
                                       
                                      My original intention was not to include 7+ and related stuff such as REQFIL/REQIR, as I suppose I see the system as primarily for messaging rather than file transfer, but this has been mentioned by a few of you, so I hay reconsider.
                                       
                                      I'm not sure what you mean by with or without password structure.
                                       
                                       
                                      73,
                                      John
                                       

                                      Hi John and the Group,

                                                                            What I was meaning by the password structure is that a sysop can configure the system
                                      to require a password to gain access or leave it open for anyone to login without a password.

                                      I run 4 radio ports here on my Linux BBS and it does not require any password for access, however, telnet is a different story, one needs a password to be able to do anything at all.

                                      I think the servers, 7+, Reqfil and Reqdir etc could be valuable tools for those who may want to setup the BBS
                                      for emergency work with default "paper forms" or files so to speak being able to be requested remotely without the need to actually talk to people to request forms etc.

                                      One of the biggest problems is of course that everyone has different ideas and uses for their BBS`s, Hi.

                                      Regards ..... Peter

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