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Re: [BPQ32] KIss mode with PK232

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  • Jim
    These older tnc s had backup batteries some the the PK232 s had AA batteries, and some had button cells. Years ago (1990 s) I removed the batteries and
    Message 1 of 6 , Jun 2, 2013
      These older tnc's had backup batteries some the the PK232's had AA batteries, and some had button cells.
      Years ago (1990's) I removed the batteries and manually did a kiss on command.
      Also the analogue filters should be realigned every few years the capacitors and other devices drift with age.
      HF is a lot easier with DSP devices (better too) aka less frustrating...
       
      Jim wu3v
       
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 9:09 PM
      Subject: Re: [BPQ32] KIss mode with PK232

       

      > Would anyone like to make a guess as to why a PK232 works well
      > in Host mode, and can join Kiss mode but does not transmit?
      >
      > I have an AEA manual but I can't think of a way to check
      > Kiss mode. As a result, I am not able to use Packet mode of
      > BPQ32.
      >
      > FYI, it used to work.
      >
      > Thanks,
      >
      > de Bruce Harris, W5HCS-1, sysop CMS Gateway, 10,133 MHz.
      >
      >
      >
      Bruce, I have only been able to get a PK232 into a valid kiss mode by
      hand. No program that claims to work actually has, for me. I use a dumb
      terminal and simply issue a kiss on command. Then start bpq. Have you
      tried that?

      Mark

    • Dave
      I have to do the same with old MFJ TNC2 Dave WB2HVF
      Message 2 of 6 , Jun 2, 2013
        I have to do the same with old MFJ TNC2
        Dave
        WB2HVF

        >

        >
        >
        Bruce, I have only been able to get a PK232 into a valid kiss mode by
        hand. No program that claims to work actually has, for me. I use a dumb
        terminal and simply issue a kiss on command. Then start bpq. Have you
        tried that?

        Mark


      • Richard
        I wrote two Perl scripts for Linux to automatically set up my two TNC s - a PK-232 and a MFJ-1270B TNC into KISS mode - also the PK-232 is set to HF 300 baud
        Message 3 of 6 , Jun 3, 2013

          I wrote two Perl scripts for Linux to automatically set up my two TNC’s - a PK-232 and a MFJ-1270B TNC  into KISS mode – also the PK-232 is set to HF 300 baud and the MFJ is set to VHF 1200 baud … One needs to just change the $mycall from “ZS0MEE” to “YOURCALL” in each script, also change to your relevant COM ttyS? port(s) … The PC to TNC baudrate is set to 9600, which can be changed if desired .. The PC to TNC COM cable needs 8-wires to communicate – if you don’t use handshaking you could get away with 3-wires in the cable, but in my opinion, I prefer having hard handshaking ..

           

          The scripts below will figure out the current MFJ-1270B TNC mode and place the TNC into KISS mode and respective baud rate for either HF (PK-232) or VHF (MFJ), if it is not there already …

           

          There are ‘sleep’ commands throughout each script – this is to allow the TNC’s to respond to each command properly – preferably don’t fiddle with them ..

           

          The scripts can be run manually from a terminal but best is to start the two scripts from your start-up LinBPQ file …..

           

          Before running these scripts, run ‘install Device::SerialPort’ from CPAN in a terminal – this module is required for the scripts to work ..

           

          73, Dick ZS6RO

           

          Filename = kiss_on_tnc_mfj.pl

          ==========================

           

          #!/usr/bin/perl

          #

          # /home/linbpq/kiss_on_tnc_mfj.pl

          #

          # Script to figure out the current MFJ-1270B TNC mode and place

          # TNC into VHF 1200 baud and into KISS mode if it is not there.

          #

          # Version 1.0 Dick ZS6RO  21 January 2013.

           

          use strict;

          use warnings;

          use Device::SerialPort;

           

          my ($count, $result, $cmdflag);

          my $mycall = "ZS0MEE\r";              # Change to your BBS callsign.

          my $reset = "RESET\r";

          my $kisson = "KISS ON\r";

          my $restart = "RESTART\r";

           

          my $PortObj=Device::SerialPort->new("/dev/ttyS6");   # Change to relevant ttyS? serial Port.

           

          # set PC to TNC COM parameters to '9600, 8-bits, no-parity, 1-stop bit' and RTS hard handshake.

          $PortObj->baudrate(9600);

          $PortObj->parity("none");

          $PortObj->databits(8);

          $PortObj->stopbits(1);

          $PortObj->handshake("rts");

          $PortObj->write_settings;

           

          $PortObj->read_char_time(0);

          $PortObj->read_const_time(100);

           

          # iterate up to 5 times looking for the command prompt

          # in case there's lots more in the buffer to read out.

          $count = 5;

          $cmdflag = 0;

          while ($count > 0)  {

            $PortObj->write("\r");

            sleep (1);

            $result = $PortObj->read(255);

            print "\n*** $count - Reading TNC Data...\n";

            if ($result =~ m/cmd:/)  {

              $cmdflag = 1;

              $count = 0;

            } else {

              print "*** $count - First try and reset the TNC if in command mode.\n";

              $PortObj->write($reset);

              sleep(1);

              $count = $count - 1;

            }

          }

           

          if ($cmdflag == 1)  {

            print "\n*** OK - got the cmd prompt.\n\n";

          } else {

            #  check again and see if we can get command mode responses.

            print "\n*** Try and reset the TNC once again if in command mode.\n\n";

            $PortObj->write($reset);

            sleep(1);

            $PortObj->write("\r");

            sleep(1);

            $count = 5;

            while ($count > 0)  {

              # send commands to take TNC out of KISS MODE - at this point we don't know for sure

              # if its in KISS mode or not, but we know we're not getting expected responses for

              # normal command mode, so this will take it out of KISS if it's in that mode.

           

              print "*** No command prompt - sending commands to\n*** exit KISS mode in case that's the reason.\n\n";

           

              $PortObj->write(chr(192));

              $PortObj->write(chr(255));

              $PortObj->write(chr(192));

              sleep(1);

           

              $PortObj->write("\r");

              sleep(1);

           

              $result = $PortObj->read(255);

              sleep(1);

           

              print "*** $count - Reading TNC data after sending commands to exit KISS mode...\n";

              print "$result\n";

              if ($result =~ m/cmd:/)  {

                $cmdflag = 2;

                $count = 0;

                print "\n*** OK, got expected command prompt.\n\n";

              } else {

                $count = $count - 1;

              }

            }

          }

           

          if ($cmdflag == 0)  {

            print "\n*** Was not able to communicate with TNC.\n\n";

          }

           

          if ($cmdflag > 0)  {

            print "*** Place TNC into KISS mode. Please wait .....\n\n";

            # if there is a command prompt, put the TNC in KISS mode.

            $PortObj->write($kisson);

            sleep(1);

            $result = $PortObj->read(255);

            print "$result\n";

            $PortObj->write($restart);

            sleep(1);

            $result = $PortObj->read(255);

            print "$result\n";

            print "\n*** TNC is now in KISS mode.\n\n";

          }

          $PortObj->close;

           

          exit 0;

           

          # -- End of script.

          #

           

          Filename= kiss_on_tnc_pk232.pl

          ===========================

           

          #!/usr/bin/perl

          #

          # /home/linbpq/kiss_on_tnc_pk232.pl

          #

          # Script to figure out the current MFJ-1270B TNC mode and place

          # into HF 300 baud and KISS mode if it is not there.

          #

          # Version 1.0 Dick ZS6RO  21 January 2013.

           

          use strict;

          use warnings;

          use Device::SerialPort;

           

          my ($count, $result, $cmdflag);

          my $reset = "RESET\r";

          my $mycall = "ZS0MEE\r";             # Change to your BBS callsign.

          my $hb300 = "HB 300\r";

          my $vhfoff = "VHF OFF\r";

          my $restart = "RESTART\r";

          my $conmodetrans = "CONM TRANS\r";

          my $rawhon = "RAWH ON\r";

          my $hpolloff = "HPOLL OFF\r";

          my $kisson = "KISS ON\r";

          my $hoston = "HOST ON\r";

           

          my $PortObj=Device::SerialPort->new("/dev/ttyS7");  # Change to relevant ttyS? serial Port.

           

          #  set PC to TNC COM parameters to '9600, 8-bits, no-parity, 1-stop bit' and RTS hard handshake.

          $PortObj->baudrate(9600);

          $PortObj->parity("none");

          $PortObj->databits(8);

          $PortObj->stopbits(1);

          $PortObj->handshake("rts");

          $PortObj->write_settings;

           

          $PortObj->read_char_time(0);

          $PortObj->read_const_time(100);

           

          # iterate up to 5 times looking for the command prompt

          # in case there's lots more in the buffer to read out.

          $count = 5;

          $cmdflag = 0;

          while ($count > 0)  {

            $PortObj->write("*");

            sleep (1);

            $result = $PortObj->read(255);

            print "\n*** $count - Reading TNC Data...\n";

            if ($result =~ m/cmd:/)  {

              $cmdflag = 1;

              $count = 0;

            } else {

              print "*** First try and reset the TNC if in command mode.\n";

              $PortObj->write($reset);

              sleep(1);

              $count = $count - 1;

            }

          }

           

          # print "cmdflag = $cmdflag\n\n";

          if ($cmdflag == 1)  {

            print "\n*** OK - got the cmd prompt.\n\n";

          } else {

            #  check again and see if we can get command mode reponses.

            print "\n*** Try and reset the TNC once more if in command mode.\n\n";

            $PortObj->write($reset);

            sleep(1);

            $PortObj->write("\r");

            sleep(1);

            $count = 5;

            print "\n";

            while ($count > 0)  {

              # send commands to take TNC out of KISS MODE - at this point we don't know for sure

              # if its in KISS mode or not, but we know we're not getting expected responses for

              # normal command mode, so this will take it out of KISS if it's in that mode.

           

              print "*** No command prompt - sending commands to\n*** exit KISS mode in case that's the reason.\n\n";

           

              $PortObj->write(chr(192));

              $PortObj->write(chr(255));

              $PortObj->write(chr(192));

           

              sleep(1);

              $PortObj->write("\r");

              sleep(1);

              $result = $PortObj->read(255);

              sleep(1);

              print "*** $count - Reading TNC data after sending commands to exit KISS mode...";

              print "$result\n";

              if ($result =~ m/cmd:/)  {

                $cmdflag = 2;

                $count = 0;

                print "\n*** OK, got expected command prompt.\n\n";

              } else {

              $count = $count - 1;

              }

            }

          }

           

          if ($cmdflag == 0)  {

            print "\n*** Was not able to communicate with TNC.\n\n";

          }

           

          if ($cmdflag > 0)  {

            print "*** Place TNC into KISS mode.\n\n";

            # if there is a command prompt, put the TNC in KISS mode.

            $PortObj->write($mycall);

            sleep(1);

            $PortObj->write($hb300);

            sleep(1);

            $PortObj->write($vhfoff);

            sleep(1);

            $PortObj->write($restart);

            sleep(3);

            $PortObj->write($conmodetrans);

            sleep(1);

            $PortObj->write($rawhon);

            sleep(1);

            $PortObj->write($hpolloff);

            sleep(1);

            $PortObj->write($kisson);

            sleep(1);

            $PortObj->write($hoston);

            sleep(1);

            $result = $PortObj->read(255);

            print "$result\n";

            $result = $PortObj->read(255);

            print "$result\n";

            print "\n*** TNC is now in KISS mode.\n\n";

          }

          $PortObj->close;

           

          exit 0;

           

          # -- End of script.

          #

           

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

           

          From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave
          Sent: 02 June 2013 23:50
          To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [BPQ32] KIss mode with PK232

           

          I have to do the same with old MFJ TNC2
          Dave
          WB2HVF

          >

          >
          >
          Bruce, I have only been able to get a PK232 into a valid kiss mode by
          hand. No program that claims to work actually has, for me. I use a dumb
          terminal and simply issue a kiss on command. Then start bpq. Have you
          tried that?

          Mark

        • nl2prc
          Hi one remark You have to open CPAN first with command ( perl -MCPAN -e shell ) Before you can give command ( install Device::SerialPort ) Maybe its also
          Message 4 of 6 , Jun 4, 2013
            Hi

            one remark
            You have to open CPAN first with command ( perl -MCPAN -e shell )

            Before you can give command ( install Device::SerialPort )

            Maybe its also better that you make this files in a attachment

            When i made a copy there are a lot of ^M in the file's

            73, ascal


            --- In BPQ32@yahoogroups.com, "Richard" <yahoolist@...> wrote:
            >
            > I wrote two Perl scripts for Linux to automatically set up my two TNC's - a
            > PK-232 and a MFJ-1270B TNC into KISS mode - also the PK-232 is set to HF
            > 300 baud and the MFJ is set to VHF 1200 baud . One needs to just change the
            > $mycall from "ZS0MEE" to "YOURCALL" in each script, also change to your
            > relevant COM ttyS? port(s) . The PC to TNC baudrate is set to 9600, which
            > can be changed if desired .. The PC to TNC COM cable needs 8-wires to
            > communicate - if you don't use handshaking you could get away with 3-wires
            > in the cable, but in my opinion, I prefer having hard handshaking ..
            >
            >
            >
            > The scripts below will figure out the current MFJ-1270B TNC mode and place
            > the TNC into KISS mode and respective baud rate for either HF (PK-232) or
            > VHF (MFJ), if it is not there already .
            >
            >
            >
            > There are 'sleep' commands throughout each script - this is to allow the
            > TNC's to respond to each command properly - preferably don't fiddle with
            > them ..
            >
            >
            >
            > The scripts can be run manually from a terminal but best is to start the two
            > scripts from your start-up LinBPQ file ...
            >
            >
            >
            > Before running these scripts, run 'install Device::SerialPort' from CPAN in
            > a terminal - this module is required for the scripts to work ..
            >
            >
            >
            > 73, Dick ZS6RO
            >
            >
            >
            > Filename = kiss_on_tnc_mfj.pl
            >
            > ==========================
            >
            >
            >
            > #!/usr/bin/perl
            >
            > #
            >
            > # /home/linbpq/kiss_on_tnc_mfj.pl
            >
            > #
            >
            > # Script to figure out the current MFJ-1270B TNC mode and place
            >
            > # TNC into VHF 1200 baud and into KISS mode if it is not there.
            >
            > #
            >
            > # Version 1.0 Dick ZS6RO 21 January 2013.
            >
            >
            >
            > use strict;
            >
            > use warnings;
            >
            > use Device::SerialPort;
            >
            >
            >
            > my ($count, $result, $cmdflag);
            >
            > my $mycall = "ZS0MEE\r"; # Change to your BBS callsign.
            >
            > my $reset = "RESET\r";
            >
            > my $kisson = "KISS ON\r";
            >
            > my $restart = "RESTART\r";
            >
            >
            >
            > my $PortObj=Device::SerialPort->new("/dev/ttyS6"); # Change to relevant
            > ttyS? serial Port.
            >
            >
            >
            > # set PC to TNC COM parameters to '9600, 8-bits, no-parity, 1-stop bit' and
            > RTS hard handshake.
            >
            > $PortObj->baudrate(9600);
            >
            > $PortObj->parity("none");
            >
            > $PortObj->databits(8);
            >
            > $PortObj->stopbits(1);
            >
            > $PortObj->handshake("rts");
            >
            > $PortObj->write_settings;
            >
            >
            >
            > $PortObj->read_char_time(0);
            >
            > $PortObj->read_const_time(100);
            >
            >
            >
            > # iterate up to 5 times looking for the command prompt
            >
            > # in case there's lots more in the buffer to read out.
            >
            > $count = 5;
            >
            > $cmdflag = 0;
            >
            > while ($count > 0) {
            >
            > $PortObj->write("\r");
            >
            > sleep (1);
            >
            > $result = $PortObj->read(255);
            >
            > print "\n*** $count - Reading TNC Data...\n";
            >
            > if ($result =~ m/cmd:/) {
            >
            > $cmdflag = 1;
            >
            > $count = 0;
            >
            > } else {
            >
            > print "*** $count - First try and reset the TNC if in command mode.\n";
            >
            > $PortObj->write($reset);
            >
            > sleep(1);
            >
            > $count = $count - 1;
            >
            > }
            >
            > }
            >
            >
            >
            > if ($cmdflag == 1) {
            >
            > print "\n*** OK - got the cmd prompt.\n\n";
            >
            > } else {
            >
            > # check again and see if we can get command mode responses.
            >
            > print "\n*** Try and reset the TNC once again if in command mode.\n\n";
            >
            > $PortObj->write($reset);
            >
            > sleep(1);
            >
            > $PortObj->write("\r");
            >
            > sleep(1);
            >
            > $count = 5;
            >
            > while ($count > 0) {
            >
            > # send commands to take TNC out of KISS MODE - at this point we don't
            > know for sure
            >
            > # if its in KISS mode or not, but we know we're not getting expected
            > responses for
            >
            > # normal command mode, so this will take it out of KISS if it's in that
            > mode.
            >
            >
            >
            > print "*** No command prompt - sending commands to\n*** exit KISS mode
            > in case that's the reason.\n\n";
            >
            >
            >
            > $PortObj->write(chr(192));
            >
            > $PortObj->write(chr(255));
            >
            > $PortObj->write(chr(192));
            >
            > sleep(1);
            >
            >
            >
            > $PortObj->write("\r");
            >
            > sleep(1);
            >
            >
            >
            > $result = $PortObj->read(255);
            >
            > sleep(1);
            >
            >
            >
            > print "*** $count - Reading TNC data after sending commands to exit KISS
            > mode...\n";
            >
            > print "$result\n";
            >
            > if ($result =~ m/cmd:/) {
            >
            > $cmdflag = 2;
            >
            > $count = 0;
            >
            > print "\n*** OK, got expected command prompt.\n\n";
            >
            > } else {
            >
            > $count = $count - 1;
            >
            > }
            >
            > }
            >
            > }
            >
            >
            >
            > if ($cmdflag == 0) {
            >
            > print "\n*** Was not able to communicate with TNC.\n\n";
            >
            > }
            >
            >
            >
            > if ($cmdflag > 0) {
            >
            > print "*** Place TNC into KISS mode. Please wait .....\n\n";
            >
            > # if there is a command prompt, put the TNC in KISS mode.
            >
            > $PortObj->write($kisson);
            >
            > sleep(1);
            >
            > $result = $PortObj->read(255);
            >
            > print "$result\n";
            >
            > $PortObj->write($restart);
            >
            > sleep(1);
            >
            > $result = $PortObj->read(255);
            >
            > print "$result\n";
            >
            > print "\n*** TNC is now in KISS mode.\n\n";
            >
            > }
            >
            > $PortObj->close;
            >
            >
            >
            > exit 0;
            >
            >
            >
            > # -- End of script.
            >
            > #
            >
            >
            >
            > Filename= kiss_on_tnc_pk232.pl
            >
            > ===========================
            >
            >
            >
            > #!/usr/bin/perl
            >
            > #
            >
            > # /home/linbpq/kiss_on_tnc_pk232.pl
            >
            > #
            >
            > # Script to figure out the current MFJ-1270B TNC mode and place
            >
            > # into HF 300 baud and KISS mode if it is not there.
            >
            > #
            >
            > # Version 1.0 Dick ZS6RO 21 January 2013.
            >
            >
            >
            > use strict;
            >
            > use warnings;
            >
            > use Device::SerialPort;
            >
            >
            >
            > my ($count, $result, $cmdflag);
            >
            > my $reset = "RESET\r";
            >
            > my $mycall = "ZS0MEE\r"; # Change to your BBS callsign.
            >
            > my $hb300 = "HB 300\r";
            >
            > my $vhfoff = "VHF OFF\r";
            >
            > my $restart = "RESTART\r";
            >
            > my $conmodetrans = "CONM TRANS\r";
            >
            > my $rawhon = "RAWH ON\r";
            >
            > my $hpolloff = "HPOLL OFF\r";
            >
            > my $kisson = "KISS ON\r";
            >
            > my $hoston = "HOST ON\r";
            >
            >
            >
            > my $PortObj=Device::SerialPort->new("/dev/ttyS7"); # Change to relevant
            > ttyS? serial Port.
            >
            >
            >
            > # set PC to TNC COM parameters to '9600, 8-bits, no-parity, 1-stop bit' and
            > RTS hard handshake.
            >
            > $PortObj->baudrate(9600);
            >
            > $PortObj->parity("none");
            >
            > $PortObj->databits(8);
            >
            > $PortObj->stopbits(1);
            >
            > $PortObj->handshake("rts");
            >
            > $PortObj->write_settings;
            >
            >
            >
            > $PortObj->read_char_time(0);
            >
            > $PortObj->read_const_time(100);
            >
            >
            >
            > # iterate up to 5 times looking for the command prompt
            >
            > # in case there's lots more in the buffer to read out.
            >
            > $count = 5;
            >
            > $cmdflag = 0;
            >
            > while ($count > 0) {
            >
            > $PortObj->write("*");
            >
            > sleep (1);
            >
            > $result = $PortObj->read(255);
            >
            > print "\n*** $count - Reading TNC Data...\n";
            >
            > if ($result =~ m/cmd:/) {
            >
            > $cmdflag = 1;
            >
            > $count = 0;
            >
            > } else {
            >
            > print "*** First try and reset the TNC if in command mode.\n";
            >
            > $PortObj->write($reset);
            >
            > sleep(1);
            >
            > $count = $count - 1;
            >
            > }
            >
            > }
            >
            >
            >
            > # print "cmdflag = $cmdflag\n\n";
            >
            > if ($cmdflag == 1) {
            >
            > print "\n*** OK - got the cmd prompt.\n\n";
            >
            > } else {
            >
            > # check again and see if we can get command mode reponses.
            >
            > print "\n*** Try and reset the TNC once more if in command mode.\n\n";
            >
            > $PortObj->write($reset);
            >
            > sleep(1);
            >
            > $PortObj->write("\r");
            >
            > sleep(1);
            >
            > $count = 5;
            >
            > print "\n";
            >
            > while ($count > 0) {
            >
            > # send commands to take TNC out of KISS MODE - at this point we don't
            > know for sure
            >
            > # if its in KISS mode or not, but we know we're not getting expected
            > responses for
            >
            > # normal command mode, so this will take it out of KISS if it's in that
            > mode.
            >
            >
            >
            > print "*** No command prompt - sending commands to\n*** exit KISS mode
            > in case that's the reason.\n\n";
            >
            >
            >
            > $PortObj->write(chr(192));
            >
            > $PortObj->write(chr(255));
            >
            > $PortObj->write(chr(192));
            >
            >
            >
            > sleep(1);
            >
            > $PortObj->write("\r");
            >
            > sleep(1);
            >
            > $result = $PortObj->read(255);
            >
            > sleep(1);
            >
            > print "*** $count - Reading TNC data after sending commands to exit KISS
            > mode...";
            >
            > print "$result\n";
            >
            > if ($result =~ m/cmd:/) {
            >
            > $cmdflag = 2;
            >
            > $count = 0;
            >
            > print "\n*** OK, got expected command prompt.\n\n";
            >
            > } else {
            >
            > $count = $count - 1;
            >
            > }
            >
            > }
            >
            > }
            >
            >
            >
            > if ($cmdflag == 0) {
            >
            > print "\n*** Was not able to communicate with TNC.\n\n";
            >
            > }
            >
            >
            >
            > if ($cmdflag > 0) {
            >
            > print "*** Place TNC into KISS mode.\n\n";
            >
            > # if there is a command prompt, put the TNC in KISS mode.
            >
            > $PortObj->write($mycall);
            >
            > sleep(1);
            >
            > $PortObj->write($hb300);
            >
            > sleep(1);
            >
            > $PortObj->write($vhfoff);
            >
            > sleep(1);
            >
            > $PortObj->write($restart);
            >
            > sleep(3);
            >
            > $PortObj->write($conmodetrans);
            >
            > sleep(1);
            >
            > $PortObj->write($rawhon);
            >
            > sleep(1);
            >
            > $PortObj->write($hpolloff);
            >
            > sleep(1);
            >
            > $PortObj->write($kisson);
            >
            > sleep(1);
            >
            > $PortObj->write($hoston);
            >
            > sleep(1);
            >
            > $result = $PortObj->read(255);
            >
            > print "$result\n";
            >
            > $result = $PortObj->read(255);
            >
            > print "$result\n";
            >
            > print "\n*** TNC is now in KISS mode.\n\n";
            >
            > }
            >
            > $PortObj->close;
            >
            >
            >
            > exit 0;
            >
            >
            >
            > # -- End of script.
            >
            > #
            >
            >
            >
            > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
            >
            >
            >
            > From: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BPQ32@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave
            > Sent: 02 June 2013 23:50
            > To: BPQ32@yahoogroups.com
            > Subject: Re: [BPQ32] KIss mode with PK232
            >
            >
            >
            > I have to do the same with old MFJ TNC2
            > Dave
            > WB2HVF
            >
            > >
            >
            > >
            > >
            > Bruce, I have only been able to get a PK232 into a valid kiss mode by
            > hand. No program that claims to work actually has, for me. I use a dumb
            > terminal and simply issue a kiss on command. Then start bpq. Have you
            > tried that?
            >
            > Mark
            >
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