Here's the scoop
I have already communicated with John off the list. First, I believe he has a 396T, unless I am mistaken. So. Why are we discussing this on a 396XT list?
Secondly, I sent John Butel 396 files for both systems, I don’t know why with software dominated programming there aren’t more system files on all of these lists.
Thirdly, I am sure you mean well Mike, but my guess is: he would like an answer sooner than a few months.
Finally this is the scoop: there are two MA State Police Systems the Analog Multi Site System which still has most of the traffic, including Troop B out in the western part of the state and the new P25 System. The new P25 System was started out west but has moved east. It is using 700 Mhz frequencies for the east channels. Some of the departments in the east include Boston, Cambridge, BAPERN, Troop A, B, C, D, E , F and H.
If anyone else has more information please let us know. I have placed my files up there on the Yahoo list in Scan Control, Proscan and Butel formats.
- On 2/26/2014 08:23, RJH wrote:
>This is not completely accurate. The 700 Mhz overlay system for the
> Finally this is the scoop: there are two MA State Police Systems the Analog
> Multi Site System which still has most of the traffic, including Troop B out
> in the western part of the state and the new P25 System. The new P25 System
> was started out west but has moved east. It is using 700 Mhz frequencies for
> the east channels. Some of the departments in the east include Boston,
> Cambridge, BAPERN, Troop A, B, C, D, E , F and H.
greater Boston area is still being built out. To my knowledge no agency
is actually operating on it. Cambridge is primarily on their own P25
system, with talk groups on the state system for when units move out of
range of the Cambridge system. The City of Boston and the MSP share use
of "Zone 1", with most city services operating there. Boston FD also has
some talk groups there, but not of fire operations. MassPort, which runs
Logan Airport among other things, just moved over to their P25 system.
Troop F operates on that system, but their primary talk group is
simulcast on Zone 1 as well.
BAPERN isn't a department, it's a interoperability system. The member
agencies operate on UHF and the primary interop channels are on UHF.
Agencies on 800 trunk systems have talk groups that tie in to those
I think we'll see more active operations on the 700Mhz overlay, but not
for a bit. I keep that on search to see what new talk groups are popping
As a general rule, the digital TGs are the analog TG divided by 16.
So, H Patrol 1, which is 33264 on the analog system can be heard as 2079
on the 700 Mhz P25 system.
Well, I have two systems in my scanner the Analog System and the P25 System On the P25 System I have heard Troop A, B, E, H, and F. I don't know which talk groups as each has several. Additionally, I have heard BAPERN, Cambridge Police, Cambridge Fire and Boston Fire on the P25 talkgroups, I didn't really note which Talk Groups as I don't care. There was traffic on those talk groups on the P25 System.
It may be cross patched but there is traffic on some of those P25 talk groups. Yes you do have to be inside a major circumferential highway (128) to hear the traffic. I live in Central MA and can hear the Troop B P25 traffic not the Metro from here only inside of Route 128.
Again, the majority of MSP and ancillary agencies are still on the analog system.
Yes, BAPERN (Boston Area Police Emergency Network) started in 1978, Chief Quinn, Tim Coogan, Newton police. Gary knows about this I didn't want to bore the 90% of the list members who this means nothing to, as they don't live in this area.
It sounds like John has it all figured out now John do you have a 396T or XT? This is the XT list.
Any reason why list members on all lists cannot send system files?