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119AW: [BACnetLighting] Re: Feedback DMF-011

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  • Langels, Hans-Joachim
    Nov 11, 2006
      Hello Steve,

      an On-Delay is not uncommon for output devices in the industry.

      Hence, I see value in keeping this Property.

      Best regards,
      Hans J. Langels

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      -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
      Von: BACnetLighting@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BACnetLighting@yahoogroups.com] Im Auftrag von jbroeker2712
      Gesendet: Freitag, 10. November 2006 10:18
      An: BACnetLighting@yahoogroups.com
      Betreff: [BACnetLighting] Re: Feedback DMF-011

      Hi Steve,

      as I mentioned in a previous discussion, I personally do not know of
      any specific application for On_Delay. The reason, why I suggested it
      is, that I have taken a look at lighting controllers for LonWorks and
      at least the ones I looked at have this feature. So I thought they
      must have a reason to implement that. Maybe that was naive ... ;-)

      Seriously, I do not have any objection if this property is removed.

      Best regards,


      p.s.: Did not find the time to review the current/new proposal. Since
      I am on vacation starting next week, I will have to take a look at it
      when I come back.

      --- In BACnetLighting@yahoogroups.com, Steve Karg <steve@...> wrote:
      > Hi Jörg (and other interested parties),
      > > o On_Delay (REAL, seconds) Off_Delay (REAL, seconds): If the
      > > Present_Value is changed from 0 to some value greater than zero or
      > > versa the dim action is delayed for the time given in these
      > We are discussing DMF-011-10 in SSPC 135 BACnet committee today, and
      > discussing the use-case for On_Delay. The only use-case that we see is
      > using it for distributed start to keep the load from many Lighting
      > Output objects from creating a load spike.
      > The objections of having an On_Delay property is that this use-case
      > should really be a client feature, not an end-point object feature,
      > since scheduling a lot of Lighting Output objects would happen once,
      > example, in the morning. Any subsequent accesses to the Ligthing
      > objects would probably not need the On_Delay, and so On_Delay creates
      > more problems than it solves.
      > Any discussion for or against having On_Delay property in the Lighting
      > Output object?
      > Best Regards,
      > Steve Karg
      > Lithonia Lighting

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