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  • D'vorah bint al-Attar
    ... Those articles are very helpful, but there s nothing quite like seeing something being done right before you, if you want to get the motions correct, and
    Message 1 of 10 , Oct 3, 2011
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      On 3 Oct 2011, at 10:54 AM, Jill Elaine Hughes wrote:

      > I believe the new Known World Handbook (available for sale at www.sca.org) also has some very helpful articles on court etiquette and courtly behavior in general, all written with the SCA newcomer in mind. Also, feel free to ask your local heralds about court protocol, this is one of our areas of expertise.
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      > YIS,
      > Mariza de la Courete
      > Vanished Wood Pursuiviant

      Those articles are very helpful, but there's nothing quite like seeing something being done right before you, if you want to get the motions correct, and being able to practice before people who can correct you.

      As for asking the heralds, well, I'm doing it right now, eh? :)
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    • Verena Entenwirt
      I took so video of some court aspects at this past Coronation. I can put together a little video example of what one does (such as when and who to bow to, and
      Message 2 of 10 , Oct 3, 2011
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        I took so video of some court aspects at this past Coronation. I can put together a little video example of what one does (such as when and who to bow to, and when to speak and/or kneel). Hopefully it will be helpful
         
        -Verena

        On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:56 AM, D'vorah bint al-Attar <dvorah@...> wrote:
         


        On 3 Oct 2011, at 10:54 AM, Jill Elaine Hughes wrote:

        > I believe the new Known World Handbook (available for sale at www.sca.org) also has some very helpful articles on court etiquette and courtly behavior in general, all written with the SCA newcomer in mind. Also, feel free to ask your local heralds about court protocol, this is one of our areas of expertise.
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        > YIS,
        > Mariza de la Courete
        > Vanished Wood Pursuiviant

        Those articles are very helpful, but there's nothing quite like seeing something being done right before you, if you want to get the motions correct, and being able to practice before people who can correct you.

        As for asking the heralds, well, I'm doing it right now, eh? :)
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      • D'vorah bint al-Attar
        ... That would be brilliant! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- D vorah bint al-Attar Middle Kingdom, Midlands,
        Message 3 of 10 , Oct 3, 2011
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          On 3 Oct 2011, at 10:59 AM, Verena Entenwirt wrote:

          > I took so video of some court aspects at this past Coronation. I can put together a little video example of what one does (such as when and who to bow to, and when to speak and/or kneel). Hopefully it will be helpful
          >
          > -Verena

          That would be brilliant!
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        • ianthegreen01@gmail.com
          There is a handbook that covers many conventions of courteous behavior in court. It should be available by download at the Dragon Heralds website. I will be
          Message 4 of 10 , Oct 3, 2011
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            There is a handbook that covers many conventions of courteous behavior in court. It should be available by download at the Dragon Heralds website.

            I will be happy to provide the link when I am accessing my e-mail by computer instead of by phone if someone else hasn't already done so.

            Ian the Green

            Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


            From: D'vorah bint al-Attar <dvorah@...>
            Sender: Ayreton@yahoogroups.com
            Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:02:27 -0500
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            Subject: Re: [Ayreton] Re: Court Behavior

             


            On 3 Oct 2011, at 10:59 AM, Verena Entenwirt wrote:

            > I took so video of some court aspects at this past Coronation. I can put together a little video example of what one does (such as when and who to bow to, and when to speak and/or kneel). Hopefully it will be helpful
            >
            > -Verena

            That would be brilliant!
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          • Ian Green
            The Midrealm Protocol Handbook http://www.midrealm.org/heraldry/forms/MKProtocolHandbook.pdf I hope this may be useful to you in some manner. Ian the Green ...
            Message 5 of 10 , Oct 3, 2011
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              The Midrealm Protocol Handbook

              http://www.midrealm.org/heraldry/forms/MKProtocolHandbook.pdf

              I hope this may be useful to you in some manner.

              Ian the Green

              On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:04 PM, <ianthegreen01@...> wrote:
              There is a handbook that covers many conventions of courteous behavior in court. It should be available by download at the Dragon Heralds website.

              I will be happy to provide the link when I am accessing my e-mail by computer instead of by phone if someone else hasn't already done so.

              Ian the Green

              Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


              From: D'vorah bint al-Attar <dvorah@...>
              Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:02:27 -0500
              Subject: Re: [Ayreton] Re: Court Behavior

               


              On 3 Oct 2011, at 10:59 AM, Verena Entenwirt wrote:

              > I took so video of some court aspects at this past Coronation. I can put together a little video example of what one does (such as when and who to bow to, and when to speak and/or kneel). Hopefully it will be helpful
              >
              > -Verena

              That would be brilliant!
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            • gmiller77@ymail.com
              I will be hosting the first Session at the Baronial Business Meeting on Sunday October 30th. More sessions to come in the weeks and months following that. I
              Message 6 of 10 , Oct 4, 2011
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                I will be hosting the first Session at the Baronial Business Meeting on Sunday October 30th. More sessions to come in the weeks and months following that.

                I personally learn better from example and experience... That is after all, why I joined the SCA, to learn by experience and not just by books.

                I was always a hands on learner. I believe that a lot of our SCA folk are similar. Even if we don't all learn better from experience, we at least prefer to learn that way in the context of the SCA. Yes, reading has it's place in the Society, I will always praise that fact. However, it is by our doing that we learn the most logical way things might have been done. It is possible for 2 people to read something and have a completely different interpretation of it, but when something is done you find out what actually works and what is less then efficient.

                By Doing a demonstration session with opportunities to practice one can see what we are trying to tell someone with our books and then we can offer them the corrections to their actions in a polite and positive way, without them feeling awkward because they have no clue and might feel that people are judging them in real court.

                --- In Ayreton@yahoogroups.com, Ian Green <ianthegreen01@...> wrote:
                >
                > The Midrealm Protocol Handbook
                >
                > http://www.midrealm.org/heraldry/forms/MKProtocolHandbook.pdf
                >
                > I hope this may be useful to you in some manner.
                > Ian the Green
                >
                > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:04 PM, <ianthegreen01@...> wrote:
                >
                > > **
                > > There is a handbook that covers many conventions of courteous behavior in
                > > court. It should be available by download at the Dragon Heralds website.
                > >
                > > I will be happy to provide the link when I am accessing my e-mail by
                > > computer instead of by phone if someone else hasn't already done so.
                > >
                > > Ian the Green
                > >
                > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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                > > *From: * D'vorah bint al-Attar <dvorah@...>
                > > *Sender: * Ayreton@yahoogroups.com
                > > *Date: *Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:02:27 -0500
                > > *To: *<Ayreton@yahoogroups.com>
                > > *ReplyTo: * Ayreton@yahoogroups.com
                > > *Subject: *Re: [Ayreton] Re: Court Behavior
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > > On 3 Oct 2011, at 10:59 AM, Verena Entenwirt wrote:
                > >
                > > > I took so video of some court aspects at this past Coronation. I can put
                > > together a little video example of what one does (such as when and who to
                > > bow to, and when to speak and/or kneel). Hopefully it will be helpful
                > > >
                > > > -Verena
                > >
                > > That would be brilliant!
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                > > D'vorah bint al-Attar
                > > Middle Kingdom, Midlands, Ayreton, Tree-Girt-Sea (Chicago, IL)
                > > dvorah@...
                > > http://www.consensualreality.net/sca AND
                > > Facebook: D'vorah Bint Al-Attar
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