Loading ...
Sorry, an error occurred while loading the content.

Re: [Ayreton] Re: Court Behavior

Expand Messages
  • Jill Elaine Hughes
    I believe the new Known World Handbook (available for sale at www.sca.org) also has some very helpful articles on court etiquette and courtly behavior in
    Message 1 of 10 , Oct 3, 2011
    • 0 Attachment
      I believe the new Known World Handbook (available for sale at www.sca.org) also has some very helpful articles on court etiquette and courtly behavior in general, all written with the SCA newcomer in mind. Also, feel free to ask your local heralds about court protocol, this is one of our areas of expertise.
       
      YIS,
      Mariza de la Courete
      Vanished Wood Pursuiviant
       
       
      From: Ashton G.A Schoeffler-Miller <gmiller77@...>
      To: Ayreton Group <Ayreton@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 10:51 AM
      Subject: [Ayreton] Re: Court Behavior

       
      My Lady, and indeed all of the Barony,

      I am going to plan to have 2-3 sessions at various meetings, events and practices in the local area during the next 2-3 months, during which I will cover appropriate court ettiquete. 

      If any of you are interested in learning the correct behavior while in court and if called up in court, then please attend one of these sessions.  They will last about 30 minutes tops and will help to acclimate newer gentles, or even seasoned peers who need to be refreshed, on the basics. 

      A List of these sessions, will be posted in the near future to this list, and all canton lists. 

      Expect one such session to be held at All Souls.

      In Service to the Dream and the Barony,

      Herr Alexander Adelbrecht von Markelingen, APF
      Baronial Pursuivant Ayreton


      From: "Ayreton@yahoogroups.com" <Ayreton@yahoogroups.com>
      To: Ayreton@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 7:04 AM
      Subject: [Ayreton] Digest Number 1795

      Ayreton News and Announcements

      Messages In This Digest (1 Message)

      1.
      Court Behavior From: D'vorah bint al-Attar

      Message

      1.

      Court Behavior

      Posted by: "D'vorah bint al-Attar" dvorah@...   dvorah.batadar

      Sun Oct 2, 2011 9:32 am (PDT)



      Last summer (2010) I had the pleasure of being called up for an honorable mention in an A&S competition, but that pleasure was short-lived as I realized, halfway up to the throne, that I had no idea of what to do once I got there. True to form, I was -- I am told -- cutely awkward at best.

      I don't want that to happen again. If ever I find myself under the royal or baronial gaze again, I would rather not disgrace myself, my canton, and my family of friends in the same manner twice. (I'm sure that, all unwitting, I will accidentally find many *different* ways to embarrass us all.)

      Is there a regular occurrence which takes place at the shire or baronial level, within Chicagoland, at which one might request instruction in the forms and behaviors most appropriate in the courts of gentle folk? Preferably NOT on a Friday night or a Saturday, since I can never attend those due to religious obligation?
      -=-=-=-=-=-= -=-=-=-=- =-=-=-=-= -=-=-=-=- =-=-=-=-= -=-=-=-=- =-=-=-=-= -=-=-=-=- =-=-=-
      D'vorah bint al-Attar
      Middle Kingdom, Midlands, Ayreton, Tree-Girt-Sea (Chicago, IL)
      dvorah@consensualre ality.net
      http://www.consensu alreality. net/sca AND
      Facebook: D'vorah Bint Al-Attar
      -=-=-=-=-=-= -=-=-=-=- =-=-=-=-= -=-=-=-=- =-=-=-=-= -=-=-=-=- =-=-=-=-= -=-=-=-=- =-=-=-

      Recent Activity
      Visit Your Group
      Yahoo! News
      Breaking news to
      entertainment news
      Sell Online
      our award-winning
      e-commerce tools.
      Star Wars on Y!
      Connect with other
      fans & upload video.
      Need to Reply?
      Click one of the "Reply" links to respond to a specific message in the Daily Digest.
      ~~~~~

      To view and add events to the calendar: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ayreton/cal/

      To discontinue receiving discussion, but still receive announcements, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ayreton/join and change your subscription to "Special Notices".  Activities coordinators, to get access to post Special Notices, send a request to <Ayreton-owner@yahoogroups.com>.
      MARKETPLACE




    • D'vorah bint al-Attar
      ... Those articles are very helpful, but there s nothing quite like seeing something being done right before you, if you want to get the motions correct, and
      Message 2 of 10 , Oct 3, 2011
      • 0 Attachment
        On 3 Oct 2011, at 10:54 AM, Jill Elaine Hughes wrote:

        > I believe the new Known World Handbook (available for sale at www.sca.org) also has some very helpful articles on court etiquette and courtly behavior in general, all written with the SCA newcomer in mind. Also, feel free to ask your local heralds about court protocol, this is one of our areas of expertise.
        >
        > YIS,
        > Mariza de la Courete
        > Vanished Wood Pursuiviant

        Those articles are very helpful, but there's nothing quite like seeing something being done right before you, if you want to get the motions correct, and being able to practice before people who can correct you.

        As for asking the heralds, well, I'm doing it right now, eh? :)
        -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
        D'vorah bint al-Attar
        Middle Kingdom, Midlands, Ayreton, Tree-Girt-Sea (Chicago, IL)
        dvorah@...
        http://www.consensualreality.net/sca AND
        Facebook: D'vorah Bint Al-Attar
        -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
      • Verena Entenwirt
        I took so video of some court aspects at this past Coronation. I can put together a little video example of what one does (such as when and who to bow to, and
        Message 3 of 10 , Oct 3, 2011
        • 0 Attachment
          I took so video of some court aspects at this past Coronation. I can put together a little video example of what one does (such as when and who to bow to, and when to speak and/or kneel). Hopefully it will be helpful
           
          -Verena

          On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:56 AM, D'vorah bint al-Attar <dvorah@...> wrote:
           


          On 3 Oct 2011, at 10:54 AM, Jill Elaine Hughes wrote:

          > I believe the new Known World Handbook (available for sale at www.sca.org) also has some very helpful articles on court etiquette and courtly behavior in general, all written with the SCA newcomer in mind. Also, feel free to ask your local heralds about court protocol, this is one of our areas of expertise.
          >
          > YIS,
          > Mariza de la Courete
          > Vanished Wood Pursuiviant

          Those articles are very helpful, but there's nothing quite like seeing something being done right before you, if you want to get the motions correct, and being able to practice before people who can correct you.

          As for asking the heralds, well, I'm doing it right now, eh? :)
          -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

          D'vorah bint al-Attar
          Middle Kingdom, Midlands, Ayreton, Tree-Girt-Sea (Chicago, IL)
          dvorah@...
          http://www.consensualreality.net/sca AND
          Facebook: D'vorah Bint Al-Attar
          -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-




          --
          Lady Verena Entenwirth
          Midlands Regional A&S Champion
          www.broomstich.com

        • D'vorah bint al-Attar
          ... That would be brilliant! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- D vorah bint al-Attar Middle Kingdom, Midlands,
          Message 4 of 10 , Oct 3, 2011
          • 0 Attachment
            On 3 Oct 2011, at 10:59 AM, Verena Entenwirt wrote:

            > I took so video of some court aspects at this past Coronation. I can put together a little video example of what one does (such as when and who to bow to, and when to speak and/or kneel). Hopefully it will be helpful
            >
            > -Verena

            That would be brilliant!
            -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
            D'vorah bint al-Attar
            Middle Kingdom, Midlands, Ayreton, Tree-Girt-Sea (Chicago, IL)
            dvorah@...
            http://www.consensualreality.net/sca AND
            Facebook: D'vorah Bint Al-Attar
            -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
          • ianthegreen01@gmail.com
            There is a handbook that covers many conventions of courteous behavior in court. It should be available by download at the Dragon Heralds website. I will be
            Message 5 of 10 , Oct 3, 2011
            • 0 Attachment
              There is a handbook that covers many conventions of courteous behavior in court. It should be available by download at the Dragon Heralds website.

              I will be happy to provide the link when I am accessing my e-mail by computer instead of by phone if someone else hasn't already done so.

              Ian the Green

              Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


              From: D'vorah bint al-Attar <dvorah@...>
              Sender: Ayreton@yahoogroups.com
              Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:02:27 -0500
              To: <Ayreton@yahoogroups.com>
              ReplyTo: Ayreton@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: Re: [Ayreton] Re: Court Behavior

               


              On 3 Oct 2011, at 10:59 AM, Verena Entenwirt wrote:

              > I took so video of some court aspects at this past Coronation. I can put together a little video example of what one does (such as when and who to bow to, and when to speak and/or kneel). Hopefully it will be helpful
              >
              > -Verena

              That would be brilliant!
              -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
              D'vorah bint al-Attar
              Middle Kingdom, Midlands, Ayreton, Tree-Girt-Sea (Chicago, IL)
              dvorah@...
              http://www.consensualreality.net/sca AND
              Facebook: D'vorah Bint Al-Attar
              -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

            • Ian Green
              The Midrealm Protocol Handbook http://www.midrealm.org/heraldry/forms/MKProtocolHandbook.pdf I hope this may be useful to you in some manner. Ian the Green ...
              Message 6 of 10 , Oct 3, 2011
              • 0 Attachment
                The Midrealm Protocol Handbook

                http://www.midrealm.org/heraldry/forms/MKProtocolHandbook.pdf

                I hope this may be useful to you in some manner.

                Ian the Green

                On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:04 PM, <ianthegreen01@...> wrote:
                There is a handbook that covers many conventions of courteous behavior in court. It should be available by download at the Dragon Heralds website.

                I will be happy to provide the link when I am accessing my e-mail by computer instead of by phone if someone else hasn't already done so.

                Ian the Green

                Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


                From: D'vorah bint al-Attar <dvorah@...>
                Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:02:27 -0500
                Subject: Re: [Ayreton] Re: Court Behavior

                 


                On 3 Oct 2011, at 10:59 AM, Verena Entenwirt wrote:

                > I took so video of some court aspects at this past Coronation. I can put together a little video example of what one does (such as when and who to bow to, and when to speak and/or kneel). Hopefully it will be helpful
                >
                > -Verena

                That would be brilliant!
                -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                D'vorah bint al-Attar
                Middle Kingdom, Midlands, Ayreton, Tree-Girt-Sea (Chicago, IL)
                dvorah@...
                http://www.consensualreality.net/sca AND
                Facebook: D'vorah Bint Al-Attar
                -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-




                --
                Yours In Service,

                Lord Ian the Green, APF, CCK, AoA, APFy (Thieves of Hearts), ADF (Thieves of Hearts), Captain in the Thieves of Hearts


              • gmiller77@ymail.com
                I will be hosting the first Session at the Baronial Business Meeting on Sunday October 30th. More sessions to come in the weeks and months following that. I
                Message 7 of 10 , Oct 4, 2011
                • 0 Attachment
                  I will be hosting the first Session at the Baronial Business Meeting on Sunday October 30th. More sessions to come in the weeks and months following that.

                  I personally learn better from example and experience... That is after all, why I joined the SCA, to learn by experience and not just by books.

                  I was always a hands on learner. I believe that a lot of our SCA folk are similar. Even if we don't all learn better from experience, we at least prefer to learn that way in the context of the SCA. Yes, reading has it's place in the Society, I will always praise that fact. However, it is by our doing that we learn the most logical way things might have been done. It is possible for 2 people to read something and have a completely different interpretation of it, but when something is done you find out what actually works and what is less then efficient.

                  By Doing a demonstration session with opportunities to practice one can see what we are trying to tell someone with our books and then we can offer them the corrections to their actions in a polite and positive way, without them feeling awkward because they have no clue and might feel that people are judging them in real court.

                  --- In Ayreton@yahoogroups.com, Ian Green <ianthegreen01@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > The Midrealm Protocol Handbook
                  >
                  > http://www.midrealm.org/heraldry/forms/MKProtocolHandbook.pdf
                  >
                  > I hope this may be useful to you in some manner.
                  > Ian the Green
                  >
                  > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:04 PM, <ianthegreen01@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > > **
                  > > There is a handbook that covers many conventions of courteous behavior in
                  > > court. It should be available by download at the Dragon Heralds website.
                  > >
                  > > I will be happy to provide the link when I am accessing my e-mail by
                  > > computer instead of by phone if someone else hasn't already done so.
                  > >
                  > > Ian the Green
                  > >
                  > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
                  > > ------------------------------
                  > > *From: * D'vorah bint al-Attar <dvorah@...>
                  > > *Sender: * Ayreton@yahoogroups.com
                  > > *Date: *Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:02:27 -0500
                  > > *To: *<Ayreton@yahoogroups.com>
                  > > *ReplyTo: * Ayreton@yahoogroups.com
                  > > *Subject: *Re: [Ayreton] Re: Court Behavior
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > On 3 Oct 2011, at 10:59 AM, Verena Entenwirt wrote:
                  > >
                  > > > I took so video of some court aspects at this past Coronation. I can put
                  > > together a little video example of what one does (such as when and who to
                  > > bow to, and when to speak and/or kneel). Hopefully it will be helpful
                  > > >
                  > > > -Verena
                  > >
                  > > That would be brilliant!
                  > >
                  > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                  > > D'vorah bint al-Attar
                  > > Middle Kingdom, Midlands, Ayreton, Tree-Girt-Sea (Chicago, IL)
                  > > dvorah@...
                  > > http://www.consensualreality.net/sca AND
                  > > Facebook: D'vorah Bint Al-Attar
                Your message has been successfully submitted and would be delivered to recipients shortly.