Re: [Ayreton] Re: Questions about baronies
- Becoming a shell barony in no way, shape or form guarantees more recognition from the kingdom. Indeed, it might encourage royalty to stay away even more, because "they've got a baron/ness, they can get baronial awards."
To encourage more kingdom recognition, we need to write more letters to the royalty making legitimate recommendations for kingdom awards -- if that's the point.
We don't need to be a barony to play nice. We won't necessarily play nice if we're a barony, and if there's a real schism someday, it'll be MUCH more difficult to disassociate.
Just because the LM says a principality is a longshot doesn't make it so; doesn't make it not so either. If people are interested, we should pursue it.
AOn 7/3/07, James Ingram <james_j_ingram@...> wrote:
I think it's been said on multiple other postings, including just very
recently by our Lord Mayor, that the principality idea, while interesting ,
is a longshot at best. That both the BOD and I'm sure more than likely the
rest of our Kingdom would be very against the idea of our becoming a
principality. Particularly if we do not intend to go the full course and
forming our own kingdom, which I feel everyone here agrees would very be a
bad idea. Instead of spending valuable time and energy on something that
from what I've read is all but assured to NOT happen or be allowed by the
BOD, let's spend that time and energy on something that does have a strong
chance of becoming a reality. That being a Barony.
As for the comments on politics and whatnot. We are all adults or at
least are at the legal age of being one. The only politics in this game we
play are those we bring into it, and if some find political manuevering more
enjoyable than getting along then it's on them and not the rest of us. This
should not be held as a "con" of there being a barony because these kinds of
people will always find something to complain about or try to control or
pretty much be kill joys.
I have heard from multiple people that they fealt it would be nice if more
people from Ayreton received recognition, at least at the kingdom level.
Here is a way to achieve that. To have someone champion the merits of those
in this area and highlight our achievements.
If we go the shell barony route in my eyes the vast majority of the
populace wins and gets what they want. More unity, kingdom level awards for
those who I'm sure long ago earned them, someone who at the end of the day
can cut through any political red tape and end squables, and canton autonomy
on most things. Also, as Ian has pointed out the various groups have
already done multiple things together and we all play nice.
Qui Tacet Consentit
Note! The following is MY OPINION ONLY, and is, in fact, only a suggestion.
I respectfully request that persons who hold a title (like, say, "Regional Seneschal"...I'll use that example because I hold that office) refrain from using it for purposes of this discussion.
That is to say, I might post that The Regional Seneschal says...this or that...or The Regional Seneschal thinks...this or that. In my experience, such comments might lead folks to believe that an Official Declaration or Official Comment was being made.
You will note that unless I am speaking as the Regional Seneschal, I speak as Alexander, some guy from Ravenslake. In that way, Alexander can make his opinions known, and the Regional Seneschal's opinion on the matter (whatever it may be) is not mixed in. Sometimes I speak as the Regional Seneschal, and have been invited to some group meetings in that role. Normally, I kick in my two cents with everyone else.
I hope that others who hold offices, unless they are specifically speaking as the officeholder, will make any advice, comments, suggestions, etc. as themselves, not from their office.
Once again, this is Just My Opinion and suggestion.
Is mise le meas,
Alexander de Seton,
some guy from Ravenslake