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  • Teleri
    Jan 31, 2008
      The last time I went through this process, which was several years ago and a single group advancement, they were looking for more than a simple majority vote.  They were looking for a consensus among the populace that this was the best thing for the group.  This is a highly subjective measure, and the poll was used as supporting evidence on whether there was a strong consensus.  There were also months of meetings where we debated the pros and cons of the barony, and the final form of the barony (term lengths, baronial awards, etc.).  At that time the process was overseen by a mediator not belonging to the group, who reported the progress of the meetings back to the kingdom level to help them make their decision.
      Again, group advancement and the choice of landed Baron/ess(es) is all at the pleasure of their Majesties, with advice from their Officers, so the final decision, and how they use the poll to make that decision, will always depend on the individuals currently in those positions.

      ----- Original Message ----
      From: James McAdams <jmcadams@...>
      To: Ayreton@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 5:32:08 AM
      Subject: Re: [Ayreton] Re:Letter of Intent

      Greetings to one and all,

      I have two questions I would like to offer for consideration. First
      - one to help describe everyone's expectations. How many people should
      support forming a barony before it progresses? The assumption so far
      has been a simple majority, and much in our lives encourages that as an
      obvious response. Lord Grimkirk seems to feel that a higher standard
      should be met, in excess of 2/3rds of those responding.
      Or perhaps the correct baseline is not those responding, but the
      larger population? That is a thorny issue that (to my mind) can only be
      resolved in 2 manners - gatherings such as we have had, and a formal
      polling of paid membership which will occur if the process continues.

      Which leads to my second - rhetorical - question. While those of us
      who live locally may have our own biases and blindnesses when it comes
      to local affairs, do we trust the officers of the Kingdom to use their
      perspective and experience to judge an eventual poll, the process (as
      the discussions here will doubtless be available to them), and the rest
      of the proposal; and to decline or defer advancement if there is
      sufficient cause?


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