Re: [Authentic_SCA] Re: Religion
- All I can say is thank you to Justin and Jehanne! I wanted to say this but
was a little afraid of pointing the finger. I try to respect everyone's
belief, but it seems both the relgious belief of my persona and my personal
belief get the "White Anglo-Saxon Male" treatment, if you know what I mean.
Hell, I'm a Catholic. We make great sport out of making fun of our own
religion. Still doesn't mean I like to have it driven out of SCA events
when it was a big part of medieval life.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not condoning mass at Court. But religious
personae and relgion-related activities were part of everyday life and I
think that can be protrayed without being offensive. It's just like how
Kate and Moshe can portray religions in which they have no personal faith.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Justin Eiler" <taliesin_o@...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Authentic_SCA] Re: Religion
> On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:28:29 -0800 (PST) L Joseph <wodeford@...>
> > It has been my experience the folks who are most
> > belligerent about religion in the SCA tend to be the
> > pagans, like the ones who were objecting to the
> > reproduction coin design used on last year's Pennsic
> > medallion because said design had a cross on it. You
> > want tolerance, be tolerant yourselves!
> If I were Baptist, I'd be saying "Amen." As it is, I have to agree, even
> as someone who is both in the SCA and a Pagan -- I've seen more than a
> few "SCAdia-Pagans" that just absolutely make my teeth hurt.
> Oddly enough, this topic has also come up on one of the Wiccan mailing
> lists that I'm on -- with the general agreement that the SCA is fine, and
> Neo-Paganism is fine -- the problem occurs when someone tries to blend
> the two areas together. And it's mostly from the crowd that's absolutely
> convinced that Wicca goes "in an unbroken line back to the Stone-Age," or
> the Anglo-Normans, or what have you.
> I try to be tolerant ov eeryone's ideas and ideals -- but I'll also
> readily admit that seeing pentacle necklasses at events absolutely makes
> me cringe.
> > (Especially
> > the ones who started wearing pentagrams and invoking
> > the Goddess primarily to freak out their parents.)
> <rolls eyes> Especially them!
> Justin W. Eiler -- "Veritas Versus Mundi"
> <"Getting back on topic now, gentle moderators.">
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> It was indeed magical...well, up until a boot came flying out the tent ofno, really??
> someone with a hangover and hit the caller!
> Allaaaaahu akb- ow! :o)
Okay, I'm going to try it at the next event. Of course, I'll have to wake
up at dawn, but there you go.
I don't have a Muslim persona, but no one will know who it is, they'll just
hear it ringing out. I hope to create "magic moments" for people by doing
that, especially the Muslim personae who just might follow the summons and
kneel to face Mecca in prayer.
Qu'er non es grazitz lunhs mestiers
menhs en cort que de belh saber
de trobar -- qu'auzir e vezer
hi vol hom mais captenhs leugiers
e critz mesclatz ab dezonor.
--Guiraut Riquier, 1292