- --- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com, Catherine Olanich Raymond
> as far
> > as I have seen, there aren't any cut velvets that are only done in
> > stripes in any pre-17th c portraits/drawings/wills/ect.
> I know of one that's late 16th. It's labeled "uncut velvet," but it
> though it has horizontal ribs:If I recall correctly on this point, the difference between velvet and
> Cathy Raymond <cathy@...>
> "The heresy of one age becomes the orthodoxy of the next."
> --Helen Keller
velveteen is the direction of the ribbing before cutting: velveteen
makes the pile by looping the weft threads, in which case the ribs
should have been running parallel to the selvedges, and velvet makes
the pile by looping the warp threads, with the ribs formed
horizontally before cutting.
I'm less sure of my recall on the source for this next point, but I
*believe* it was mentioned and illustrated in the MOL "Clothing and
Textiles" volume. (If not, I apologize for not being able to cite the
source.) There was, earlier than the sixteenth century, a pile fabric
with horizontal ribbing stair-stepped in three levels:
low-medium-high-medium-low-medium-high-medium-low, and so on. I am
completely at a loss, though, as to whether the "low" level was
low-pile, or no-pile.
Not much help, I know, and not corduroy, either, but it might be worth
It does seem to me, though, that if you're using a very fine wale
corduroy, it would be less obviously modern fabric if you can use it
with the wale running from side to side instead of up-and-down as we
use it today. (I know that affects how it behaves, too.)
Yseult the Gentle
- The transplated Flemish and Dutch protestant 'Walloons" in Norwich in the second half of the sixteenth century were responsible for introducing to England a lot of innovative fabrics, collectively called at the time the "newe draperies." these incuded the introduction or refinement of fabrics such as bayes (baize), and Mockadoe ( a heavy kind of napped "velvet" made with a linen warp and piled worsted -combed, not carded, wool- warp, trimmed and stamped or burnt with design). I think that if you were looking for a period verion of Corduroy, that it might be found in the "newe draperies..." although many of these cloth types were not meant for clothing... mockadoe, from what I can tell, went mostly to furniture covering, for example...
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