Re: [Authentic_SCA] Re: persona & religion
- At 1:48 PM -0800 on 1/22/08, Rebecca Klingbeil wrote:
>Wyclif's vernacular anyway. ;) <joke!>Indeed. And actually, I'd love to get a copy of the Wycliffite Bible
to improve my Lollard portrayal. I've not really had a chance to
look, but does anyone know if there's a version currently in print?
>Actually, some of you might find the book _The Book: AI think I'll need to pick up that book, actually. Sounds quite good.
>History of the Bible_ a very interesting read. It is
>written by a man who was for years Sotheby's medieval
>manuscript expert (his name escapes me at the moment).
Another interesting book about the period is "Who Murdered Chaucer"
by Terry Jones (yes, of Monty Python fame). It paints a completely
different picture of Richard II's reign as king of England than
accepted history generally produces. It, among other things discusses
the Wycliffites and other literary and religious luminaries of the
day. Quite enjoyable read.
"..Um..Something strange happened to me this morning."
"Was it a dream where you see yourself standing in sort
of Sun God robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked
women screaming and throwing little pickles at you?"
"Why am I the only person that has that dream?"
- --- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com, julian wilson <smnco37@...>
>Hours or a Bible of the late 15th C.?
> Gentles of The List,
> while this thread is current - may I add another question?
> Can anyone recommend a modern facsimile of a medieval Book of
For the type of Bible, the Latin Vulgate would be available to
England in 1470-1500. Even printed copies. A whole Bible would be
more expensive and less common than a Psalter (the Psalms). Amazon
has plain modern printed Latin Vulgate Bibles for sale. You can also
get facsimile Gutenberg bibles (http://www.greatsite.com/facsimile-
reproductions/gutenberg-1455.html) but I think $9,500 might be e bit
more than you'd want to pay...
There are facsimile editions online, here's links to a couple:
It might be worth looking in a Catholic bookstore to see what they
have or could order in.
Alternatively, digital editions are relatively common, and you could
print one out for personal use. Google around for one.
Books of Hours were often used by lay people, more so than Bibles,
but modern versions suffer from similar problems as Bibles -
facsimiles are made with very high quality and are exorbitantly
expensive, and making one yourself is very time consuming. Cheap ones
don't seem to be around.
The Artz Hours are online here:
A facsimile edition of the Simon Bening (c.1500) Book of Hours is
available from the New York Public Library, but it says POA, which I
would say means $$$.
There is a Hypertext book of hours online at
which is useful in understanding how much and what is in a book of
hours, if you decided to have a go at making one yourself.
This site is also useful:
If you are not too concerned with having an extremely accurate book,
one way to go might be to get the text of what you would like to see
on display - either the Bible, the Psalms, or a Book of Hours, print
it yourself in a suitable font, and hand-decorate it. Same method as
used by Gutenberg, just rather different technology...
Hope that helps,
PS - searching back through the archives here might bring up some
useful info too.
> As Christians in the Service of King Henry VII, my Lady and Ihave a small altar in our exhibition-level, period-furnished,
sleeping tent, - and as an extra display item for this Seasion, I'm
making a copy of a nice 15th C. little Prieu Dieu that I saw and
measured-up in a Church in Venice in 2005; - and I'd love to gift my
Lady with a facsimile prayer book to add to that little display.
> Listers' suggestions and recommendations will be gratefully
> In humble Service to The Light, and to Drachenwald,
> Matthew Baker
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