Re: 15C turned 1531
- --- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com, "balanttina" <balanttina@...>
> I represent the second half of 15C 'slovenia' (middle eastern
> but am going to an 1531 event. not that costumes here are perfect,but
> I was wondering if there is a quick and easy way to transform my15C
> costume into sth looking as 16C (without changing it much) or canit
> represent working women in that period too?trapezoid,
> I have white linen chemise with narrow sleeves, beige linen kirtle
> without sleeves and with side lacing and dark green wool gown with
> long sleeves and with front lacing. for headdress I have a
> a rectangle and a band, all white linen. I am currently wearingblack
> leather shoes but they are not period so I have no options there.Celestina, you don't say whether this 1531 event is SCA, or other re-
> thank you for your ideas!
> lp, celestina
enactment, which can make a difference.
The other point which might make a significant difference would be,
are you meaning working, in a city or town, where fashions might be
more current, even allowing for "trickle down" effect, or are you
talking about "working" clothing out in the countryside, on a farm,
for instance, or that of "workmen/women" on someone's large estate?
If this clothing or costume is for an SCA event, I wouldn't worry
*too* much. A kirtle over a simple, plain smock or chemise would be
fine; front lacing is almost a necessity if a woman's relying on
herself to serve as her own maid.
If you're not *doing* work, and are wearing the kirtle without the
gown, chances are you'd add sleeves to your kirtle. You said yours
is sleeveless; I'm unsure whether you mean having very short sleeves
(no longer than the top of the bicep of the arm), or no sleeves at
all. If you have the short sleeves, which are seen in some of the
Books of Hours and in paintings, you'd just pin on the separate
sleeve, which essentially begins where the integral sleeve ends. If
you have no sleeve at all, then you'd make a longer sleeve, long
enough to cover your arm and forearm, and it would be sewn to the
kirtle every time you wore the kirtle.
Often these separate sleeves are a different color, or a different
From the description, I'm not getting a mental picture of your
headdress, but again, if you're talking about working class clothing,
probably the worst that could happen would be that your headdress
would be a tad old-fashion compared to your kirtle or gown.
Shoes are one of the hardest things for most re-enactors to get
right. There are options out there, though, if you don't want to
make your own.
I don't know, of course, where you're located, but hopefully
something here will be of use to you.
There's this "juried list:"
And, although some of this is repetition and is arranged in no
From what you've written (and assuming this is an SCA event you're
going to be attending), I'd say you'll be fine.
Yseult the Gentle
thank you very much for answering!
I see that I should have been more precise with the details.
I am not attending an SCA event as I do not live in any of the
countries that does 'have' SCA. I am from Slovenia, that is a middle
eastern europen (or middle europen) country below Austria and west
of Italy. we have our own set of medieval and renaissance events and
this 1531 event is one of them.
however, many costumes here are not as authenthic as they could be
because people care more about looks than authenticity. well, that
is for them to decide. I prefer doing it properly.
the group I am with represents a military/traveling camp of the
second half of 15. century. we therefore wear working clothes
probably more in the sense of countryside than anything else.
my kirtle has no sleeves at all. I already thought of making extra
sleeves, perhaps in two parts so that the sleeves of the chemise
would be seen and join them together with laces, which was known in
I have so many different pices for the headdress so that I am able
to make different headdresses or chage them according to weather.
the trapezoidal piece is made after the pattern of marie chantal
unfortunately I have no pictures yet as that is my latest addition
to my costume. I suppose I will go for the slightly old-fashioned
my medieval shoes are due to arrive in september, yey!, but thans
for the links anyway!