Re: [Authentic_SCA] gilding pewter (differentiating chess pieces)
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Did you find a complete set of pieces or is he basing the other pieces off one oyu found. I have been looking for years for a chess set that I could possibly use for my 15th cnetury group and so far have been unsuccessful. COuld you sned me pictures of the pieces?
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> Did you find a complete set of pieces or is he basing the otherpieces off one you found. I have been looking for years for a chess
set that I could possibly use for my 15th cnetury group and so far
have been unsuccessful. COuld you sned me pictures of the pieces?
The chess set that is being made for me is 14th C in design, and is
based off a mixture of extant pieces (mostly ivory ones that have
survived), with some pieces also based off descriptions, surviving
carvings, statuary, manuscript illuminations and memorial
brasses/carvings. I have about 50 MB of images that I have collected
on the 14th C, about half of which were scanned from books.
However, if it is 15th C you are interested in, I'll put what little
I have in a folder on the Photos section labelled "15th C Chess". I
like the late 14th/early 15th Burgundian set in rock crystal and
amber. You might also get ideas from 15th c editions of Jacobus de
Cessolis' book which has an exceedingly long Latin name: 'Liber de
moribus hominum et officiis nobilium sive super ludo scacchorum'
('Book of the customs of men and the duties of nobles or the Book of
Chess'), and was copied (with illustrations) widely throughout Europe.
If you find any facsimile that's commercially available, let me know.
I found a few extracts from a copy online at:
Meanwhile, for anyone that's interested, check out
which goes up to the 14th C.
An excellent book on the subject, if you can find it, is
"CHESS: the story of chesspieces from antiquity to modern times", by
by Hans and Siegfried Wichmann (Author), Cornelia Brookfield and
Claudia Rosoux (Translator). Crown: New York, 1964. ASIN: B000CRJJV2
Try a big library or university library. Unfortunately it's only
black-and-white photos, but they are big and clear, and lots of them.
Searching museums etc using
also helped me find a lot of images - search using French terms if
you can. Chess is "echecs", you can also turn up good stuff by
searching for King, Queen, Knight, Bishop, Aufin, Rook, etc.
Here's a link to an ivory knight from the 15th C:
There are 2 sorts of chess pieces out there - the miniature figures
sort, and the stylised sort. Both seem to be used by the nobility,
but stylised ones were probably more affordable in materials like
bone, wood and metal for the merchants and poorer people.
PS - If people are interested, when my set is finished I can post
pics, but it is a few months off yet. Orders taken.
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> I'll put what littleOn looking it up, I find I actually only have one image... but I'll put
> I have in a folder on the Photos section labelled "15th C Chess".
it in there.
> like the late 14th/early 15th Burgundian set in rock crystal andThat's rock crystal and smoky topaz, sorry. :-) I'm not sure what the
metal fittings are.