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Re: [Authentic_SCA] Children

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  • bronwynmgn@aol.com
    In a message dated 7/27/2005 9:28:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com writes:
    Message 1 of 68 , Jul 27, 2005
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      In a message dated 7/27/2005 9:28:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
      Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com writes:

      <<1. Glasses. I can not see without my glasses and can not wear
      contacts, does anyone have a suggestion?>>

      I am in exactly the same situation. I made an effort, when I got new
      glasses, to get a style that is as unobtrusive as possible - fairly small lenses,
      very thin silver frames, and a mild tan tint to the lenses - which makes them
      very un-noticeable in most cases. You certainly needn't go out and buy new
      frames immediately, or at all; just wear your glasses.

      <<2. I have spent much time and effort in getting my whole family
      garbed for the even, but now I am seeking pictures of period
      transportaion. I want to replecate something for use with two of my
      children. With four children any outing can be trying without a means
      to confine the little ones. (My children are 14, 10, 4, and 1)>>

      Many people use wagons, the kind with the red wooden sides. Some people
      have gotten very elaborate and made canopies and skirts for the wagons to hide
      as much of it as possible and make it look like a sedan chair, but then again,
      other people just bring modern strollers. If you do bring a modern
      stroller, make sure it's one with larger wheels as many of our events take place in
      areas that have uneven ground. We are taking our 6-month old to Pennsic this
      year,and have borrowed a wagon from friends whose daughter has outgrown it.
      This particular wagon came with an insert with a bench seat and has a skirt,
      canopy, and curtains :-)
      You may also want to consider a child safety harness if your younger
      children have a tendency to play "run-away-from-mommy" games. I'm certainly
      planning on using one when the time comes.

    • Sharon L. Krossa
      ... I believe what prompted the earlier post was not so much the questions being asked as some the answers the questions were getting that were along the lines
      Message 68 of 68 , Aug 2, 2005
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        At 2:33 PM +0000 7/31/05, m d b wrote:
        > > Or maybe this is the group that people write to to have people tell
        >them that it is okay to bring modern stuff to an event and you wont
        >get ostricized for it. But if so, you guys need to change the name
        >to the "Absolution" list. (say three "Hail Marys" and your modern
        >gaget is allowed)
        >I honestly have not been seeing *any* of that recently.

        I believe what prompted the earlier post was not so much the
        questions being asked as some the answers the questions were getting
        that were along the lines of "Just go ahead and do [insert modern
        thing here], it's okay" (full stop), rather than "While of course
        it's okay to just do [insert modern thing here], here are some
        suggestions for more authentic options for you to consider..."

        >So far I've seen queries about how best to tackle a clearly defined
        >problem. I won't go into them, but they are pretty easy to read as:
        >help I have a medical reason for soemthing that is not terribly
        >obvious what is going to work best. Being on this list should give a
        >clue as to how authentic the answers could be.

        Again, it's not so much the questions that are the problem being
        commented on -- it's that some of the answers are *not* taking up the
        clue that the question was asked on "Authentic_SCA", but rather just
        giving absolution not to bother (and so, of course, not actually
        answering the question).

        >This is why I am on this list. To get ideas that I may not have
        >previously thought of and if they are able to be worked around a
        >medical issue I will use it. Or substitude something that isn't

        Exactly -- not to be told "Just go ahead and do the modern thing,
        don't worry about it, don't bother with trying to be more
        authentic/less distracting" with no suggestions of ideas, etc.

        >And as for the answers I have been reading.. They haven't been
        >mollycoddling people who are capable of doing something but don't
        >want to do.

        It's not an issue of "mollycoddling" -- it's an issue of answering
        the question, or rather, of interpreting the question as about
        increasing authenticity/decreasing inauthenticity rather than
        interpreting it as asking for permission/absolution.

        And many answers have answered the question -- but some have not, but
        rather said nothing more than "It's okay to do the modern thing
        you're already doing".

        >There has been understanding expressed to those of us who
        >physically cannot chose the truly authentic path (not that there is
        >any such thing*) If this is considered upsetting to people, then I am
        >sorry. But it is not going to stop me from asking questions about how
        >to best work around a disability that most people cannot see and thus
        >not understand. It's going to be hard enough dealing with acepting
        >things I would have had to change. If people assume I'm looking for
        >validation, then so be it.

        Again, what has prompted the firestorm is not really the questions --
        it is the answers (or rather, non-answers, given the context in which
        the questions were asked). In other words, that some people giving
        answers _have_ assumed (or at least responded as if they assumed)
        that questioners are only looking for validation, rather than
        assuming they really mean it when they ask for suggestions.

        And perhaps you're right -- perhaps we should just accept that some
        people giving answers are going to assume questioners are just asking
        for validation and so don't really mean it when they ask questions on
        Authentic_SCA. As long as there are at least a few who actually
        answer the question asked, the list still serves its purpose.

        Sharon L. Krossa, skrossa-ml@...
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