Re: German cape-coats
- "msgilliandurham" wrote:
> I'm looking for more information on a German Renaissance garment --Do mean something like this?
> It's described in Janet Winter's Elizabethan Costuming as being a
> full circle cloak, hip length, with 2-piece sleeves. She says in
> England it was only worn by men, but in Germany it was sometimes
> worn by women as well.
It's not quite a cloak, but it is a full bodied short jacket (and is
sooooo cute! how could you NOT want to make one!)
- Hmm -- this is close enough to document that women wore this style --
and yes, these are not a full circle (although since the fake fur
lining is napped, I'm not going to save much on fabric!) Thank you -
- mine will have full-length sleeves -- this appears to have
only "cap" sleeves, fitting over the tight sleeves of the gown.
FYI -- Other similar images are available at
--- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com, >
> "msgilliandurham" wrote:garment --
> > I'm looking for more information on a German Renaissance
> > It's described in Janet Winter's Elizabethan Costuming as beinga
> > full circle cloak, hip length, with 2-piece sleeves. She saysin
> > England it was only worn by men, but in Germany it wassometimes
> > worn by women as well.--- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com, "hunyddthered"
> Do mean something like this?is
> It's not quite a cloak, but it is a full bodied short jacket (and
> sooooo cute! how could you NOT want to make one!)
- Ha! I found it! (the picture, that is)
There's a small picture of it at
I did a Web Goodle search, instead of an image Google search,
and found it mentioned in an archive at sca.uwaterloo.ca, apparently
of the H-COST listserv. (specifically
Here a "joan m jurancich" says
"On page 228 of "QE's Wardrobe Unlock'd", there's a wonderful
engraving of "Monkeys 'apeing' the fashion, starching and setting
linen ruffs, using setting sticks. Engraving, c. 1570. British
Museum, London."[that's the caption in the book, don't blame me!]"
And a little farther down in the archive, a "Joycelyn Falsken" says
"Yes, the cartoon is of monkeys dressed in Elizabethan garb
laundering, starching and pressing neck ruffs. The caption under the
picture states: "Crispin Van de Passe I (after Van der
Borcht), "Starch House" engraving. By permission of the trustees of
the British Museum." dated 1570. [...] It's in a book
called, "Fashioning Femininity" by Karen Newman and addresses
amongst other topics, "Dressing Up: Sartorial Extravagance in Early
Couldn't get anything off the British Museum website, sadly. I'm
trying to track down the "Fashioning Femininity" book.
My memory of it in "Unlock'd" (I *knew* I'd seen it somewhere besides
the cartoon I had in hand!!) is that it a small image as well.
Gillian [who is really going to have to get across the pond one of
these days] Durham
--- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com, "wodeford" <wodeford@y...>
> Rats! I was going to ask if you could point me at an image for my
> medieval monkey collection!
- --- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com, "msgilliandurham"
>Thanks! The British Museum also owns the "Saru no Soshi" featuring
> Ha! I found it! (the picture, that is)
fashionable 16th century Japanese monkeys. The entire handscroll can
be seen at: