Re: [Authentic_SCA] Re: HELP!! Bright Blue Wool!!
- At 12:13 AM 9/1/2004 +0000, you wrote:
>Can you obtain a scrap, or several, of the wool, other than from herAlso be sure to get any extra cloth and dye it at the same time so that
>jacket? If you can, use these pieces to test. Tea stains are a pain
>to remove if you don't like the results; it's best to be certain of
>what your results are likely to be before using this on the jacket.
it's the exact same color if she needs to make repairs.
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> OK (slightly modified from a Janet Arnold pattern) but, she hasmade
> it from a very bright, almost electric blue wool. She has alsomade
> thread covered buttons for it with embroidery thread of the sameIs there an issue with this colour not being appropriate for the
> color. I'm wondering if there is any way tone this thing down or
> darken it without damaging the fabric or the buttons.
particular era? I ask as there are some pretty darned vivid blues in
tapestries, 500 years after they were made;) 17thC isn't my forte but
I have also seen some nice blues in paintings.. Again , not my forte
and I'm not even aware of your particular needs for your group.
I really wouldn't tea dye. I've heard some nice horror stories of
things being broken down over time. It's certainly not advised for
heirloom pieces anyway. Apparently there is a way to neutralise the
acid, but honestly I'd rather just use a safe purpose created dye;)
The acid might not affect the wool (that's why the ground is silk and
the pile rayon for chiffon velvet to be acid etched after all) but
the thread for the buttons probably will.
She might get good results using a dye which is made for both protein
and cellulose based fibres (like Dylon), so it should dye the wool
and the thread. Use a colour from the other side of the colour
wheel.. thing.. Complimentary colours should muddy the tone a bit, so
that should be an orange toned dye.
Of course, testing on scraps is paramount and much more diluted than
usual so she doesn't get brown, but a less vibrant blue.
She could also go over with black and deepen the colour to a midnight
blue. Maybe even navy...
Lady Willemyne (the vibrant.. orange, teal, sunshine yellow... though
not all at once;) )
- Ah, because I was going to be wearing the bright pinks and yellows,
in one garment, and they were causing my face to look neon-white.
That was just too much unflattering glow factor. <G> And the fiber
in that instance was cotton of a medium sheeting weight. (No linen
in the budget 'way back then.) The tea was a practical, easy and
available (and affordable, at that time! Budget's a little less
constraining, these days) solution.
I hadn't realized tannic acid is a mordant, but it makes sense.
Thanks for that tidbit!
--- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com, kittencat3@a... wrote:
> Aw, why tone down the bright pinks and yellows? Cochineal and weld
> truly amazing shades of magenta and bright yellow...:)
> Seriously, tea dyeing should be fine. Tannic acid is a good
mordant in and
> of itself for cellulose, and will dye just about any natural
> frequently use it on cottons to achieve an aged look.
> Good luck!
> Sarah Davies
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- Thanks to all for the suggestions on toning down the blue wool. I
had not even thought about tea or coffee. The 18th century frontier
part of me jumped straight to walnut hulls. I will apprise her of
the possible danger of the tannic acid breaking down the fabric over
time. Not sure how long that might be. Our clothing sees some
rather hard usage anyway, so it may not be an issue. To answer
the "Why not bright electric blue?", we are a 17th century New World
frontier settlement (1611 - 1622). Our staff portrays the labouring
classes in that harsh setting (though there are a few peacocks among
our volunteer reenactors!). The thread buttons are her first
attempt. If the embroidery thread breaks down, I will recommend she
try again with black or some other more subdued color. I'm tickled
pink about the thread buttons anyway.