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RE: [Authentic_SCA] Re: when did stitching horses come into being?

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  • Jeff Gedney
    ... no Problem, I thought it was something like that. (I am looking to make a Shave horse for myself quite soon. After that I will have used both tools and can
    Message 1 of 14 , Jul 1, 2004
      >my mistake! By the description, I took the stitching
      >horse to be the same as the shaving horse, which I
      >know very well!!
      >
      >Karl

      no Problem, I thought it was something like that.
      (I am looking to make a Shave horse for myself quite soon. After that I will have used both tools and can tell you for certain how interchangeable they are)

      Oh, and here's that sitich horse link (Correct, this time):
      http://www.caledonleather.ca/stitch-horse.html



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    • Willow Polson
      ... I ve done woodworking for a very long time, including some period woodworking, and have never heard that a shave horse was a staple in everyone s home.
      Message 2 of 14 , Jul 1, 2004
        At 09:13 AM 7/1/2004 -0700, you wrote:
        > the "shaving horse", used for trimming
        >wood down with a rasp or draw knife. There are datable
        >examples at the oldest settlements in New England, and
        >these were considered a staple tool in everyone's
        >home, not just a specialist tool.

        I've done woodworking for a very long time, including some period
        woodworking, and have never heard that a shave horse was a staple in
        everyone's home. What is your source for that information?

        - Willow MacPherson


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      • Marc Carlson
        ... I m pretty sure they are post-Period. They aren t in Jost Amon s book that I am aware of - however, you will notice the shoemakers in the picture on them
        Message 3 of 14 , Jul 3, 2004
          > At 10:42 AM +0000 6/30/04, Shane Stainton wrote:
          >ie are they period?
          >Id like to fine tune my encampment and my demo work, including my
          >tools of the trade but cant seem to find any history on the stitching
          >horse. (leatherwork for those that are wondering what the heck im
          >talking about)

          I'm pretty sure they are post-Period. They aren't in Jost Amon's book
          that I am aware of - however, you will notice the shoemakers in the
          picture on them are using a stirrup for sewing leather (A stirrup is a
          strip of leather or rope around the leg, used to hold the work to a
          sewing block held on the thigh). The earliest I can recall seeing a
          stitching horse is Garsault in 1762.

          Marc
        • Marc Carlson
          ... I m here, I m here (just off line a lot lately while I m trying to get work done on this stupid book). The clamp (clam) held between the knees does seem to
          Message 4 of 14 , Jul 3, 2004
            --- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Gedney" <gedney1@i...> wrote:
            > Looking for illustrations of tradesmen, I see a lot of examples of
            > leather workers sewing stuff whill holding it clamped between the
            > knees, none using anything like a horse, but this is a purely
            > cursory glance on line.
            > People who have done more research into period letherworking (like
            > Marc Carlson) might be able to give you a more definitive answer,
            > but my initial impression is that stitching ponies and horses are
            > probably not period.
            > Marc?

            I'm here, I'm here (just off line a lot lately while I'm trying to get
            work done on this stupid book).

            The clamp (clam) held between the knees does seem to be the version
            that appears in Garsault.

            Marc/Diarmaid
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