RE: [Authentic_SCA] Re: Chauses and Braies
This same topic has been discussed as of recently on the Armour Archive
Board, www.armourarchive.org <http://www.armourarchive.org/> .
The current discussion is on some pics of colored braies that were found
(a whole collection) and now they are discussing whether the colors
(from red to black to green) mean something because it looks like they
were on sinners and saints. Also another discussion point within in this
is whether or not these are just linen braies or because linen doesnt
take a natural/period dye that well, were they wool.
Lady Katharine Devereaux
Kingdom of Atlantia
Barony of Ponte Alto
From: Chuck [mailto:chrometanned@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 6:32 PM
Subject: [Authentic_SCA] Re: Chauses and Braies
--- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com, "ulfbrandrsson"
> I am sure this question has been posted many time just not while Iand
> was paying attention. I have looked thru my copy of MOL textiles
> clothing as well as Fashion in the age of the Black Prince and Iam
> still unable to find the answer to the question.the
> When did Braies become the same color as the Chauses instead of
> customary white color? Any help would be appreciated somehowshowing
> white braies with yellow hose isint my idea of good fashion butMan
> striving to be period is. For reference my Persona is 1380 German
> at Arms serving the House of Anjou in France during the Englishquest
> for word domination.******Well, in my search for 1350-ish English clothing for myself, I
> Ich Dien
> Olaf Wulfbrandt
> Großartiger Meister
> Haus Gebrochen Brücke
have seen only white braies and zero references to colored ones.
Maybe someone else here can be of more help.
Charles Geraud Maurouard d'Verrat
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- Greetings to the group -
i have followed all threads recently with interest but this is my
first group posting ever so I hope I do it right.
--- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com, "Katharine Devereaux"
> This same topic has been discussed as of recently on the Armour
> Board, www.armourarchive.org <http://www.armourarchive.org/> .found
> The current discussion is on some pics of colored braies that were
> (a whole collection) and now they are discussing whether the colorsthey
> (from red to black to green) mean something because it looks like
> were on sinners and saints.doesn't
> Also another discussion point within in this
> is whether or not these are just linen braies or because linen
> take a natural/period dye that well, were they wool.I am interested in 16th Century braies, but previous research lines
usually described earlier "boxer" types and then ended saying that
later braies were like "Jockey" shorts - this is a much appreciated
series of period illustrations. But I have a couple further
1. How would they be kept tight? I understand earlier braies had
draw strings but these appear to be a flat fabric waistband.
2. Any suggestions on patterns? I am new to sewing and the first two
simple items I designed ended up very different than the design!
3. I have been acquiring linen and will probably sew a few braies
from linen scraps, but they are all natural or bleached - any
suggestions on dyes I could at least try (and try, and try, if they
fade as reported)?
Thank you for your assistance.
Peregrine Falconer, the Navigator
(Whose desire for authenticity overreaches both his knowledge and