Re: Fourteenth century experiments.
> Need more fabric. Frustrated by this, since I have very littledisposable
> cash right now, but I NEED MORE FABRIC, PEOPLE! After four yearsin the SCA, I am
> suddenly turning into a fabric snob. This is bad. I cannot affordto become a
> fabric snob. I should wait to be employed before becoming afabric snob.
> Grimr, who has been a fabric snob for years, is laughing at me.
I *highly* suggest the following. In the groups area on yahoogroups
we have a links section (it's on the left side of the screen for
those who haven't been there). In the links section is a folder
named 'fabric'. There are 12 links to fabric dealers, er, I mean
sellers that have been used and praised by people on this list. The
majority of them have great prices. Several of them deal in large
quantities - which can lower your price. Figure out what you want
and how much of it you need.
Then, go to people in your local group and offer them the fabric *at
cost*; don't forget to add in the shipping that you're going to be
charged. You'd be amazed at how many people will jump on the
bandwagon to get, say, linen at $6 or less per yard - or silk.
Sure, those are the prices for white, but, again, if you go in
together on a couple of dyes it's much less expensive in the long
run and a container of dye lasts for more than one project. :)
And point out that summer is just around the corner and they'll be
wishing that they had linen at these prices when it's hot at
Hope this helps.
- Raquel wrote,
>They were not kidding. Linen really does expand when you wear it for severalI have a sorquenie (14th c. undergown) that isn't QUITE as snug under the bust as it
>hours. I am going to have to go back and adjust the underdress to much more
>skintight than I thought was necessary, or suffer the slowly sliding bosom
>effect again. OTOH, the two dresses together did maintain a fair amount of bosom
>support throughout the evening, I think through sheer bottleneck to the waist.
should be. The reason I haven't bothered to go back and snug the seams is because
it gives perfect support if I wear a chemise under it, even though the chemise, which is
of a fine linen, is hardly what I would call "fitted" even though it is relatively snug. I
suppose it works so much better because the presence of the chemise fills it out and
adds another layer of friction. Since chemises were an integral part of the costuming of
the era, I would feel better having it there even if it didn't help so much. If it's too hot for
all three layers, I'm more likely to want to remove the cotehardie layer, anyway.
>I'm trying to figure out how you get a wide, rather than deep, neckline,Really??!! For my cotehardies with the 14th century neckline (just about straight across,
>because I really want to diminish the amount of cleavage on display.
at least if you trust the art), I cut my necklines so high that the neck hole is actually only
about an inch deep, while it is wide enough to just show the points of my shoulders.
The shoulder curve is high in the back, so the weight of the gown rests on the bony
backs of my shoulders. This prevents the gown from slipping down and showing off
more than I want to show off. For my 15th c. cotehardies (the types shown in the _Tres
Riches Heures_) I just lower the front neckline a bit. Five inches is enough of a
decotellage on me to achieve that neckline. I don't know how much cleavage your
outfit displayed, but I understand the desire to cover some of it up. Excessive
cleavage is one of the big problems I've noticed when people make this style of gown.
It can be quite sexy without showing lots of flesh!
>Need more fabric. Frustrated by this, since I have very little disposableWell, that would help! You'll find that the internet is your friend. I like Thai Silks
>cash right now, but I NEED MORE FABRIC, PEOPLE! After four years in the SCA, I am
>suddenly turning into a fabric snob. This is bad. I cannot afford to become a
>fabric snob. I should wait to be employed before becoming a fabric snob.
<thaisilks.com> for sheer quantities of silk at really good prices, like less than $2 a yard
for 3 momme silk gauze. Fabric.com is a small company out of Savannah that always
has really good prices and tends to carry the types of fabrics we like. My last big
favourite is Fabrics-store.com, which has a scrumtious variety of linen at really good
prices, along with a huge selection of other fabrics, including many that are useful for
us. And no, I don't work for any of these companies, although I'm sure if I did I could put
the employee discount to good use!
Honourable Lady Arianne de Chateaumichel
Shire of Starhaven,
Kingdom of Trimaris
On the web at <http://www.chateau-michel.org>