- ... I *think* she s talking about those horrible laurel wreaths that some laurels wear. Some are okay, but most that I have seen, either look cheesy or lookMessage 1 of 55 , Apr 1, 2003View SourceAt 03:41 PM 4/1/2003 +0000, you wrote:
> dubious. And peers' circlets are just right out ....
What's a peer's circlet?
I *think* she's talking about those horrible laurel wreaths that some laurels wear. Some are okay, but most that I have seen, either look cheesy or look as if the person *really* wants to be some form of Royal peer, but the Laurel is the best they could do. I'm not a fan, but to each their own.
> this isn't a good idea. But a lot of the time, it just seems like
> sumptuary laws are just an excuse for small-minded people to be
I agree. I've had it explained to me elsewhere that such laws "add
to the ambiance, and help with the feel and..." I dunno. I think
it's just another way to add snobbery and such to events.
Some of them are okay. Some are just wayyyyy too finiky, IMO. Remember, we've got a lot of things backwards here in the SCA. Sumptuary laws *can* help so long as a) people understand and follow them and b) no one gets their knickers in a huge knot if they are broken accidentally or c) people are allowed to 'buy' the privilege of breaking them, as was done in period. But it's all in one's viewpoint.
Would I advocate for someone to break them on purpose with the intent of cheesing off others? No. However, I would say that those who feel women wearing gold chains a la Cranach are trying to pass for knights (and other examples I could bring) need to get further into the *education* portion of the SCA . Yes, there is a point where breaking the sumptuary laws or iron clad customs is rude and obviously done for no socially acceptable reason. However, there are also good reasons for breaking some of these laws and customs. It's when one doesn't pause to hear the reason that it becomes a problem. And when one's skull is too thick to understand or one refuses to listen to any way but the 'one' way that it also becomes a problem. It's also when one refuses to see the pouch at the end of the strap that 'looks like a white baldric'. Blindness has many forms.
As Tangwynsyl said, this is a game; know the rules and try to play by them.
"Laws are sand, customs are rock. Laws can be evaded and punishment escaped, but an openly transgressed custom brings sure punishment."
- The Courtesans in Venice wore Pearls even though they were strictly for nobility and clergy.. the fine for doing such an act is compared to todays speedingMessage 55 of 55 , Dec 28, 2005View SourceThe Courtesans in Venice wore Pearls even though they were strictly for
nobility and clergy.. the fine for doing such an act is compared to todays
speeding tickets... you generally pay the fine but Keep speeding... the
Courtesans paid their fines and wore pearls anyway.
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