Re: [Authentic_SCA] Re: pourpoint question
- At 02:10 PM 5/9/2002 +0000, you wrote:
>--- In Authentic_SCA@y..., Gwendoline Rosamond <dameg@a...> wrote:I get them in book form. I have no idea why it was left to the woman, I'm
> > I've been lately looking at wills that are very late 14th century
> > 15th century and kirtle and gown have both been mentioned.
> > most bizarre thing I've found is a "pourpoint" left to a woman...
> > Cheers,
> > Gwendoline
>Fascinating! How did you find the wills? And do you think that the
>pourpoint being left to a woman might indicate that the word might
>have been used for women's gowns/outer layers? Or possibly something
>was left to a woman for recycling purposes, for their offspring's
>use, or maybe because this lady was one of those cross-dressing
>tournament-attenders I've read about in _Fashion in the Age of the
only just getting into the 15th century stuff - I usually work with 16th
century. From everything I've read however, I don't think that women would
normally wear such a garment. These are mainly merchant class wills so its
really hard to tell....
>Apparently, cadres of upper-class ladies liked to get together, dressWell, the reference says "to Edith, their servant (servienti), one white
>in masculine fashions, and then attend tournaments and generally
>raise a ruckus. Contemporary writings describe them as independent
>and heartless, if I remember correctly, though those exact words were
>probably not used. I'll have to go home and look this up..
>Marcele de Montsegur
"parpyne"" so it is most like a case of recycling...