Re: [Authentic_SCA] Period music vs. creativity. (Was: Promoting Authenticity)
- (Sorry I've been sending so many messages!)
> tested on those and arpeggiation of chords therein. "Mr. Davis?I feel your pain...
> Arpeggiate the Five=-seven of five chord of the Phrygian scale of the
> relative major of C minor. You have fifteen seconds." I DO NOT LIE.
> It was a cast-iron pain in the tuchus. That's why we practiced five
> hours a day. And we were *percussionists!*
>> Side note: what specific song did you sing? (And is sheet musicAll right, all right you two ;). I don't remember exactly which one it was,
>> available. More sheet music! <pant, pant, drool, drool>
> Indeed. Charts are ALWAYS welcome, provided due credit is given. Also,
> if these are your own editions, citation of the MSs -- and how I can get
> at them -- is insisted upon! :)
but it was either "Kalenda Maia" (you've probably heard this one...Raimbaut
de Vacairas, 1180-1205) or "Dona, si totz temps vivia" (Berenguer de Palol,
early 12th c., pretty obscure). The first one I got from our music library,
and of course it was one of those times where one forgets to take down
bibliographic info when photocopying... The second was from a recording by
Altramar, but darn it, I haven't been able to find the sheet music anyplace.
:( However, I shall soon make a trip to our manuscript library to peruse
the reproductions of the Cantigas de Santa Maria. I'll definitely keep you
guys updated on that. Unfortunately, I'm not too sure how you can get at
our manuscripts (at UC Berkeley) from where you guys are, but if you ever
pay a visit just alert me and I'll make arrangements. :)
>> It's entirely possible. And it also must be noted that I play "middleAnne Azema: "Le Jeu d'Amour." 13th c. Trouvere songs. This is a great
>> period" -- _Walla Puria_ during the reign of Llewellyn the Great (Wales,
>> specifically 1200-1205 c.e.). I'm also looking at the Goliards and the
>> Troubadors / Trouveres of that time period, as this is music that would
>> (reasonably) have been heard by a relatively well-traveled _bardd_ of
>> that time.
recording by one of the greatest voices in medieval music (IMO). Her tone
is decidedly NOT "bel canto" but it certainly is *bel canto*. ;) It is warm
and golden and filled to the brim with emotion. She can sweep from
light-hearted joy to deeply-anguished yearning to bitter anger. Ah! She
sings like she's spinning gold with her throat!
Just a recording that might be of interest. :)
> Recordings are often suspect. Stick with established groups, such asI totally agree.
> Anonymous 4, the Hilliard Ensemble, etc.
However, I rarely go by "established" groups (sometimes I find that they can
get kind of similar across recordings) except Boston Camerata; with me, it's
a hit or miss type of thing. I buy it if it sounds convincing based on the
Amazon.com audio clips or if I already love the artist (i.e., Boston
Camerata or Altramar). And if the documentation is lacking or the liner
notes are rhapsodic and romantic (i.e., talking about knights and ladies and
crusaders with no real substance) then, miss. But if they do their
research, and the vocalists are convincing in the repertoire (that's a big
point for me), then, hit! However, I'm not too fond of Anonymous 4, and I
haven't had much inclination to look into the Hilliard Ensemble, but that's
just personal choice. I'm more into the mediterranean repertoire...and that
repertoire has its own amazing interpreters.
>> And that's the other side of things -- I have to admit that I also loveall right, all right. I guess my problem is that I just don't know any SCA
>> "SCA Filk." True, it's more appropriate for revels than the "catual"
>> event, but I will admit that some rogue who looks suspiciously like me
>> has been seen at revels singing "Cold Beer" and "The Ball of Balyknure."
>> (But it wasn't me -- it was my evil twin Skippy. <g>)
> Too true. I enjoy performing liturgical chant, organum, Minne- and
> Meistersingerlieder, troubadour chansons, ad infinitum. I also enjoy
> singing The Chemise Song. ;-) Timing is everything; ask a Court herald.
songs, and to tell the truth, I just don't really have any desire to. ;)
Qu'er non es grazitz lunhs mestiers
menhs en cort que de belh saber
de trobar -- qu'auzir e vezer
hi vol hom mais captenhs leugiers
e critz mesclatz ab dezonor.
--Guiraut Riquier, 1292