Re: [Authentic_SCA] Eliz. dress
- Gwendoline wrote:
>Ah. : ) In England, Spain, and France in the latter 16th c. things areYes! Makes a lot of sense :-)
>mostly constructed in the same fashion. <snip> Do you see what
>I'm getting at?
>Most of that stuff can be learned from observation andYes, I get it. But I don't have a kirtle, and won't for a while. I hope
>reading accounts from the time period. Your layers would be: smock,
>corset, farthingale, shirt (if a second/high necked one is worn - partlets
>were a lot less common than the average re-enactor thinks...), petticoat
>(sometimes one was worn under the farthingale in cold weather), kirtle,
>gown, ropa (if worn). Now there is some flexibility in this order, and it
>depends if you are wearing a gown over the kirtle or a double over your
>kirtle instead of a gown, etc... I think you get the idea.
it won't look too funny to go without it - the gown, thus, would go
directly over the corset, petticoat, and farthingale.
>Does that make any sense?Yes, it does, thanks!
>since the Tudors and Elizabeth weren't monarchs in Italy they wouldn'tOK :-) I do usually do that, but recently I've just gotten lazy and refer
>be Elizabethans - that is specific to the latter half of the 16th c. in
>England. You would just call it 16th c. Italian.
to it as Elizabethan; it seems that people are more likely to recognize
what sort of a costume it is when they have a more familiar name attached
to it. Whatever.
> >maybe theI tried rolling it, and that seems to work ok. I don't think I have any
> >ropes will un-twist on their own and I won't have to worry about it?
> ><keeping fingers crossed>
>Hmm, have you tried hanging it over night or kind of trying to roll it in
>the casing? Either might help.
place to hang it...it doesn't fit in the garb closet at any rate. The
blasted thing is so heavy that i need two or three hangers to support it.
>Hmm... Off the top of my head I haven't seen different bodices with oneWell, here's one example that shows a bodice different from the
>possible exception but I believe that one is a jacket (as well as a whole
skirt...then again, the bodice and sleeves match.
>Anyway, when and where is this from again? Is it possibleYes, that would be possible, I think there's enough for either. How
>to use the brocade for sleeves/undersleeves?
exactly would undersleeves work? Would I make a fitted sleeve out of the
brocade, and then a poof of the blue fabric on top of it? Something like
this, maybe...is that the right idea?
I have no idea how to construct it (might have a pattern for it, I'd have
to check). But I think that might look really cool :-)
- At 09:08 AM 11/14/2001 -0600, you wrote:
>At 07:59 AM 11/14/2001 -0500, you wrote:Ah, I know about the ones published in the Lapidary Journal... Doh, why
>>I didn't know what the gem show market was like down here. You did
>> > get a good deal by the sound of it!
>>They happen right in my area (eastern PA) a few times a year. I can't
>>speak for anywhere else, but I imagine they do happen. Anyone else
>They happen all over. Gwen, ask Rosie and Wolfie sometime and I'm sure
>they'll let you know what they know about schedules for these things. I
>know there are a few in Chicago every year.
didn't I just suggest checking the back of that... they have a calendar for