6827Re: [Authentic_SCA] Linguistics question...
- May 31, 2001Effingham wrote:
>Did he say "joot" or "yoot"? <g>"Joot." Does that make him thoroughly uncouth? :)
>Didn't anyone think to look at a dictionary? Didn't your teacher even think ofWell, I have to admit the thought crossed my mind, but my dictionaries are
in the boxes and boxes of stuff that are in the keeping of my very obliging
boyfriend until I move into my new place (and therefore inaccessible). And
yeah, the libraries and computers would be good resources too, but still,
the teacher didn't think of it and no one else in the class seemed to
care. But I do agree that most teachers would have immediately suggested
checking a dictionary. This one's a little...well...not the best I've ever
had :( Today he spent half an hour trying to get the class to understand a
very simple concept which most profs. could explain much more lucidly in
half that time...
>Most good dictionaries *have* etymologies where you can find that sort ofYeah, yeah, I know. My dad taught me that the OED was the holiest book in
the house <g>. And even humbler dictionaries are quite useful.
>KEG comes from the Anglo-Saxon KAG, which came from the Norse word KAGGI.Thank you! So it's a Germanic word and not a Celtic one. That answers my
question perfectly :)
And Dorje (though isn't Caoilte more likely to know about this? ;) wrote:
>>Its probably a word that predates both welsh and English, or it couldhave gone
the other way. Still, this is kind of a mystery to me. Traditional history
portrays a germanic invasion that pushed the Brythonic population into Wales
Yeah, the teacher didn't seem to hot on the details of political history,
but that's the impression I got.
>>The Archeologucal evidence doesn't show a lot of disruption ineveryday life during this time. Was there really a violent displacement or
were the common people simply assimilated into the new Anglo-Saxon culture? If
they were assimilated why didn't the Brithonic language have more influence on
Very good questions. *Wish* I knew the answers!
>>I don't know the answer to your question, but if anyone has afrisian dictionary or speaks frisian, see if the word Keg appears in the
frisian dialect. It shares an origin with Anglo-Saxon and would not have been
influenced by Welsh or Cornish.
Right, because Frisian is also Germanic. Any idea if it predates
Anglo-Saxon? (Or is it spoken nowadays? I have no clue what the time
frame is for that one.) At any rate, there must be a dictionary of it
*somewhere* that's accessible. Well, now I have a project to keep me busy
over the weekend! :)
Thanks for the info, folks! I appreciate it :)
planning to go Frisian-hunting soon as her homework permits
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