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59255Re: Enchanting the Ground you stand on (WAS re: [Authentic_SCA] RE: Hello?)

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  • thlcolmdubh
    Apr 14, 2014
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      Like the drama teacher, I always read medieval English poetry before attending an event to get me in the mood. Having been certified in and having taught drama, English, and history, I have a triple excuse.
      Colm Dubh
      ---- "George A.Trosper" <gtrosper@...> wrote:
      > [Bottom posted, for good reason, not top-posted.
      > [Altho I'm not sure there's good enough reason for my going on this
      > long! However, y'all are welcome to say if I'm being spectacularly
      > unhelpful.]
      > On 3/6/2014 7:37 PM, Scat@... wrote:
      > > I could well be wrong; however, I do not believe that I have ever been in a group or at an event at which EVERYBODY agreed to limit themselves to medieval topics. I have been at many events at which a small group of people did so--usually only at large events.
      > > Colm
      > It depends on what you mean, after all, by "a group". I've certainly
      > been more or less enchanted (if we can call it that) for parts of a day
      > at a revel.
      > Sir Cariadoc of the Bow ran an Enchanted Ground at the all-kingdom 25yr
      > celebration a few decades ago--and was gracious enough to let me, as His
      > Irreverence, AEthelred the Over-Ready, Abbot of the Abbey of Misrule,
      > stumble in on the evening of its very last day, after the old fool (wiv
      > his fyke Noineteenf-century Cockney accent, yet!) apologized profusely
      > for giving his period as "about free Aye-Em".)
      > Which was better, if only because unpremeditated, than the sweet young
      > kid who soon after arrival sang a verse or more of Baldwin of Erebor's
      > "Welcome to the Current Middle Ages (we're glad you've come and hope
      > that you can stay)", which is of course ALL wrong because it stands
      > precisely IN the Society and NOT in period. Sir Cariadoc proved himself
      > as wise as he was learned by offering to explain privately to the boy
      > LATER what was wrong about that performance.
      > (In case you've never met the song, if you've MS-Word available its
      > lyrics, among several others, can be found thru
      > http://www.ravenboymusic.com/Lyrics/Welcomelyrics.doc .)
      > "Seven Daffodils", performed on a 20th-c. guitar before our Shire was
      > officially Incipient, was enchanted compared to that.
      > But somehow we survived.
      > On 3/3/2014 7:55 PM, Basil wrote:
      > > What I'm looking for is hints and help on*me* staying in character, and how to do so in ways that encourage others to give it a try. IOW, something less formal, less insistent, than Enchanted Ground.
      > The Musicians' Guild of Loch Salann (my home barony) tries its best for
      > just about that goal, Basil, when we converse at table during feasts.
      > When we're getting far afield, someone--often our Guildmistress--gently
      > reminds us by expressing in-persona confusion at the modern word or
      > concept--and often we amuse ourselves explaining, often w/ our standard
      > remedy of parallel expression. For example:
      > If Mr. George A. Trosper (me) is having a problem w/ his vehicle, Lord
      > Michael Gerard (other me) will tell how he argued w/ his farrier, or
      > complain his palfrey threw a shoe, fetched up lame, failed to negotiate
      > an easy jump over a hedge, or the like.
      > When my mother was growing increasingly demented before her death, so
      > was the equally off-stage Josephine of Westminister, an anchoress at
      > Graystone Priory who's been like a mother to Gerard. (His own died
      > before he left the Abbey of St. Guthlac up in the West Riding of
      > Yorkshire.) Of course that requires having period names for what and who
      > you want to talk about.
      > (So Our Lady of Lourdes Parish, Salt Lake City, named after a 19th-c.
      > appearance of the timeless Blessed Virgin Mary, is parallel to St.
      > Mary's Bethesda, one of the 100 or so parishes in London that no one
      > except possibly the Archbishop's clerks can keep track of.)
      > On the other hand, if we're getting into mutually interesting discussion
      > that simply can't be accommodated that way--e.g., research findings--we
      > all just give up on enchantment. Temporarily.
      > This sort of thing can even shape a whole persona. Mistress Anne de
      > Junius, being a very married lady mundanely and therefore wishing to be
      > seen so in the SCA. But her mundane husband mostly just didn't wanna
      > play our particular game, altho he had no problem w/ her participation.
      > So she established her period husband as a merchant of the Hanse, who
      > was conveniently at sea or otherwise occupied.
      > On 3/3/2014 6:32 PM, Kim Gibson wrote:
      > >
      > > I very much appreciate Enchanted grounds, though not the Elizabethan
      > > part. My persona is so much earlier, that would be as anachronistic
      > > as modern English!
      > >
      > > Ceallagh Maraidhe
      > Early Modern English (not specifically Elizabethan) happens to be
      > Gerard's native tongue, tho w/ a fading Yorkshire accent (he's worked in
      > Southwark and resided between London and Westminster these many a year).
      > I certainly can't and don't do that consistently--we used to call it
      > "speaking forsoothly", and a critique was implied by that term--and a
      > 20th-c. British accent is even sillier.
      > But I do try to avoid obvious modernisms. Just for two goals: Squelching
      > my too-obviously 1960s "man" (except where Scots "mon" would do) from
      > when I was young, as well as ANY use of "duude" as the currently young
      > apply it. And eradicating "okay", for which it's amazing how MANY
      > different phrases need to be substituted in different contexts, from
      > "'Tis well!" to "I will be pleased to make it so" to "She fares
      > indifferent well" and on and on. (You need to practice coming up w/
      > substitutes ahead of time, and even then you won't always succeed.)
      > Our founding baroness, Mistress Ferelith MacDonald, always read a few
      > scenes of Shakespeare before driving to a revel, in order to have a
      > period rhythm in mind. But then, she was mundanely a high-school drama
      > teacher.
      > ----------------------------------------------
      > Is any of tabove at all helpful to anyone?
      > Let me end w/ another parallel. From the great Master John of Oxford
      > (aka J.R.R. Tolkien)'s "On Fairy Stories":
      > > Faerie contains many things besides elves and fays, and besides
      > > dwarfs, witches, trolls, giants, or dragons: it holds the seas, the
      > > sun, the moon, the sky; and the earth, and all things that are in it:
      > > tree and bird, water and stone, wine and bread, and ourselves, mortal
      > > men, when we are enchanted.
      > Perhaps there is something in that attitude that can translate into
      > enchanting ourselves and our immediate vicinities.
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