59255Re: Enchanting the Ground you stand on (WAS re: [Authentic_SCA] RE: Hello?)
- Apr 14, 2014Like the drama teacher, I always read medieval English poetry before attending an event to get me in the mood. Having been certified in and having taught drama, English, and history, I have a triple excuse.
---- "George A.Trosper" <gtrosper@...> wrote:
> [Bottom posted, for good reason, not top-posted.
> [Altho I'm not sure there's good enough reason for my going on this
> long! However, y'all are welcome to say if I'm being spectacularly
> On 3/6/2014 7:37 PM, Scat@... wrote:
> > I could well be wrong; however, I do not believe that I have ever been in a group or at an event at which EVERYBODY agreed to limit themselves to medieval topics. I have been at many events at which a small group of people did so--usually only at large events.
> > Colm
> It depends on what you mean, after all, by "a group". I've certainly
> been more or less enchanted (if we can call it that) for parts of a day
> at a revel.
> Sir Cariadoc of the Bow ran an Enchanted Ground at the all-kingdom 25yr
> celebration a few decades ago--and was gracious enough to let me, as His
> Irreverence, AEthelred the Over-Ready, Abbot of the Abbey of Misrule,
> stumble in on the evening of its very last day, after the old fool (wiv
> his fyke Noineteenf-century Cockney accent, yet!) apologized profusely
> for giving his period as "about free Aye-Em".)
> Which was better, if only because unpremeditated, than the sweet young
> kid who soon after arrival sang a verse or more of Baldwin of Erebor's
> "Welcome to the Current Middle Ages (we're glad you've come and hope
> that you can stay)", which is of course ALL wrong because it stands
> precisely IN the Society and NOT in period. Sir Cariadoc proved himself
> as wise as he was learned by offering to explain privately to the boy
> LATER what was wrong about that performance.
> (In case you've never met the song, if you've MS-Word available its
> lyrics, among several others, can be found thru
> http://www.ravenboymusic.com/Lyrics/Welcomelyrics.doc .)
> "Seven Daffodils", performed on a 20th-c. guitar before our Shire was
> officially Incipient, was enchanted compared to that.
> But somehow we survived.
> On 3/3/2014 7:55 PM, Basil wrote:
> > What I'm looking for is hints and help on*me* staying in character, and how to do so in ways that encourage others to give it a try. IOW, something less formal, less insistent, than Enchanted Ground.
> The Musicians' Guild of Loch Salann (my home barony) tries its best for
> just about that goal, Basil, when we converse at table during feasts.
> When we're getting far afield, someone--often our Guildmistress--gently
> reminds us by expressing in-persona confusion at the modern word or
> concept--and often we amuse ourselves explaining, often w/ our standard
> remedy of parallel expression. For example:
> If Mr. George A. Trosper (me) is having a problem w/ his vehicle, Lord
> Michael Gerard (other me) will tell how he argued w/ his farrier, or
> complain his palfrey threw a shoe, fetched up lame, failed to negotiate
> an easy jump over a hedge, or the like.
> When my mother was growing increasingly demented before her death, so
> was the equally off-stage Josephine of Westminister, an anchoress at
> Graystone Priory who's been like a mother to Gerard. (His own died
> before he left the Abbey of St. Guthlac up in the West Riding of
> Yorkshire.) Of course that requires having period names for what and who
> you want to talk about.
> (So Our Lady of Lourdes Parish, Salt Lake City, named after a 19th-c.
> appearance of the timeless Blessed Virgin Mary, is parallel to St.
> Mary's Bethesda, one of the 100 or so parishes in London that no one
> except possibly the Archbishop's clerks can keep track of.)
> On the other hand, if we're getting into mutually interesting discussion
> that simply can't be accommodated that way--e.g., research findings--we
> all just give up on enchantment. Temporarily.
> This sort of thing can even shape a whole persona. Mistress Anne de
> Junius, being a very married lady mundanely and therefore wishing to be
> seen so in the SCA. But her mundane husband mostly just didn't wanna
> play our particular game, altho he had no problem w/ her participation.
> So she established her period husband as a merchant of the Hanse, who
> was conveniently at sea or otherwise occupied.
> On 3/3/2014 6:32 PM, Kim Gibson wrote:
> > I very much appreciate Enchanted grounds, though not the Elizabethan
> > part. My persona is so much earlier, that would be as anachronistic
> > as modern English!
> > Ceallagh Maraidhe
> Early Modern English (not specifically Elizabethan) happens to be
> Gerard's native tongue, tho w/ a fading Yorkshire accent (he's worked in
> Southwark and resided between London and Westminster these many a year).
> I certainly can't and don't do that consistently--we used to call it
> "speaking forsoothly", and a critique was implied by that term--and a
> 20th-c. British accent is even sillier.
> But I do try to avoid obvious modernisms. Just for two goals: Squelching
> my too-obviously 1960s "man" (except where Scots "mon" would do) from
> when I was young, as well as ANY use of "duude" as the currently young
> apply it. And eradicating "okay", for which it's amazing how MANY
> different phrases need to be substituted in different contexts, from
> "'Tis well!" to "I will be pleased to make it so" to "She fares
> indifferent well" and on and on. (You need to practice coming up w/
> substitutes ahead of time, and even then you won't always succeed.)
> Our founding baroness, Mistress Ferelith MacDonald, always read a few
> scenes of Shakespeare before driving to a revel, in order to have a
> period rhythm in mind. But then, she was mundanely a high-school drama
> Is any of tabove at all helpful to anyone?
> Let me end w/ another parallel. From the great Master John of Oxford
> (aka J.R.R. Tolkien)'s "On Fairy Stories":
> > Faerie contains many things besides elves and fays, and besides
> > dwarfs, witches, trolls, giants, or dragons: it holds the seas, the
> > sun, the moon, the sky; and the earth, and all things that are in it:
> > tree and bird, water and stone, wine and bread, and ourselves, mortal
> > men, when we are enchanted.
> Perhaps there is something in that attitude that can translate into
> enchanting ourselves and our immediate vicinities.
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