13115Re: hamburgers - source maybe
- Oct 2, 2001--- In Authentic_SCA@y..., Ariane Helou <ahelou@u...> wrote:
> At 02:47 PM 10/1/01 +0000, you wrote:(like a
> >How about a banana split as dessert?
> >"They" had ice cream, fruit, cream, chopped nuts .... and they had
> >(This is not a joke, the "Tudor banana" was on show at the MoL)
> They had ice cream? Was it, like, with cream, or just fruit ice
> sorbet)? When did it first appear?ice,
> This is pure conjecture, but I thought that sorbet/granita/fruit
> whatever you call it, showed up around the end of the 16th c, butcream- or
> custard-based ice creams weren't eaten until the 17th or 18th. ButI'm
> just guessing. Anyone got a source for this? Ice cream is one ofmy
> favorite things in the world, and I would jump at the chance tobring some
> to an event! Yum :-)Sorbets were already known in Roman times, there is documentation
> who should really not be thinking about ice cream before breakfast
that Nero was fond of them and had runner bring snow from the
mountains that was then mixed with honey.
Marco Polo allegedly brought back information about sorbet making
from his travels.
Sorbets were already popular in Italy in the 16th century and when
Caterina de' Medici went to France, she took her favourite cooks with
her and so the fashion for frozen desserts reached France.
Bernardo Buontalenti is said to have initiated the forerunner of
modern ice cream in the 16th century, IIRC this was a mixture of
crushed ice and zabaglione that was pressed into pretty shapes,
but "milk ice" seems to have been around before then, I think it also
existed in China.
The method of reaching lower temperatures by adding saltpetre to ice
meant that ice cream could be made much faster and easier (the
saltpetre is added to the ice used to cool down the sorbet/ice cream,
NOT to the ice cream itself).
There are quite a few pages about the history of ice cream on the
web; I can't find the one I was thinking of, and I didn't bookmark it.
If you search for the names above on the web you'll probably come up
with something more detailed.
- << Previous post in topic Next post in topic >>