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  • William E. Parker
    As far as lofting is concerned, I think the Gougeon book on boatbuilding, which may have now morphed into two books (I haven t looked recently), is very good
    Message 1 of 17 , Oct 29, 2004
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      As far as lofting is concerned, I think the Gougeon book on boatbuilding,
      which may have now morphed into two books (I haven't looked recently), is
      very good and the techniques result in a very fair hull. The method for
      dealing with planking thickness in developing stations is very well
      worked-out, and very quick.

      On the question of which books are important, I think all mentioned in the
      latest string have been very good and worth having.
      My interest trends more toward design than boatbuilding, but, for all his
      faults, Chapelle is indispensible in both. There are some books, like
      chapelle, which provide a good grounding in the basics of boatbuilding.
      Then there are boats that provide, here and there, excellent techniques for
      a particular operation, say spiling, or developing the angles on a
      breasthook. And that is why we all have more than two or three, because no
      book to date provides both a grounding in the basics, and all those "hints
      and tips". Or at least I haven't found it.

      Say, John, somebody should write that book...

      [William E. Parker] -----Original Message-----
      From: jkohnen@... [mailto:jkohnen@...]
      Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 11:28 PM
      To: AtkinBoats@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [AtkinBoats] Boatbuilding Books


      Anybody have any other suggestions for boatbuilding books that would be
      helpful for builders of Atkin boats?

      Glen-L's BOATBUILDING WITH PLYWOOD, at least in the earlier editions I've
      seen in used book stores, seems like a good one for builder's of the
      Atkins'
      plywood boats:

      http://www.glen-l.com/books/bb.html

      Their book on engine installation mainly covers large auto engine
      conversions. Anybody know of a good book that covers engine installation?

      On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 00:45:39 -0700 (PDT), Scott wrote:
      > ...
      > "BOATBUILDING" by Howard I. Chapelle is excellent
      > reference as well as Robert M. Steward's "BOATBUILDING
      > MANUAL." However, if you are building your first boat
      > or a bit larger boat I would have to recommend George
      > Buehler's "Buehler's Backyard Boatbuilding." This is
      > the book that George calls his shop manual. It gives
      > step-by-step instructions from lofting (very simple
      > the George way), laying the keel, cutting the rabbit
      > line, frame construction, interior construction,
      > building a mast, everything, and its fun to read, even
      > if you're not building a boat. Very clear, easy to
      > follow with lots of drawings and photos.. I have all
      > three..
      > ...

      --
      John <jkohnen@...>
      http://www.boat-links.com/
      One boat just leads to another.
      <John Kohnen>





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    • JohnyM7@excite.com
      I m speaking as a novice who has never built a planked boat. I m going to start with a small sailing skiff using the book Building Heidi , a step-by-step
      Message 2 of 17 , Oct 30, 2004
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        I'm speaking as a novice who has never built a planked boat. I'm going to start with a small sailing skiff using the book "Building Heidi", a step-by-step instruction manual by Richard Kolin. This will allow me to develop my skills before building a cruising boat and will make it easier to understand more comprehensive books. Other small boat manuals are "Building Small Boats" by Gregg Rossel, and "Small Craft You Can Build", "Building Classic Small Craft", and "The Dory Book" by John Gardner. I still have Payson's and Devlin's books from building a plywood boat, and I'm ordering the Chapelle and Buehler books. William is right, I think we will all end up with pretty good libraries. Best of luck with whatever you build.

        JohnM




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        Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:27:42 -0700
        Subject: [AtkinBoats] Boatbuilding Books

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        <tt>
        Anybody have any other suggestions for boatbuilding books that would be<BR>
        helpful for builders of Atkin boats?<BR>
        <BR>
        Glen-L's BOATBUILDING WITH PLYWOOD, at least in the earlier editions I've<BR>
        seen in used book stores, seems like a good one for builder's of the Atkins'<BR>
        plywood boats:<BR>
        <BR>
        <a href="http://www.glen-l.com/books/bb.html">http://www.glen-l.com/books/bb.html</a><BR>
        <BR>
        Their book on engine installation mainly covers large auto engine<BR>
        conversions. Anybody know of a good book that covers engine installation?<BR>
        <BR>
        On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 00:45:39 -0700 (PDT), Scott wrote:<BR>
        > ...<BR>
        > "BOATBUILDING" by Howard I. Chapelle is excellent<BR>
        > reference as well as Robert M. Steward's "BOATBUILDING<BR>
        > MANUAL."� However, if you are building your first boat<BR>
        > or a bit larger boat I would have to recommend George<BR>
        > Buehler's "Buehler's Backyard Boatbuilding."� This is<BR>
        > the book that George calls his shop manual.�� It gives<BR>
        > step-by-step instructions from lofting (very simple<BR>
        > the George way), laying the keel, cutting the rabbit<BR>
        > line, frame construction, interior construction,<BR>
        > building a mast, everything, and its fun to read, even<BR>
        > if you're not building a boat.� Very clear, easy to<BR>
        > follow with lots of drawings and photos.. I have all<BR>
        > three..<BR>
        > ...<BR>
        <BR>
        --<BR>
        ������������������������ John <jkohnen@...><BR>
        ������������������������� <a href="http://www.boat-links.com/">http://www.boat-links.com/</a><BR>
        ��������������������� One boat just leads to another.<BR>
        ������������������������������ <John Kohnen><BR>
        <BR>
        <BR>
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      • DirtSailor
        John, I have a Heidi that is ready for planking. It has been that way for close to three years now. Other boats have taken my away from her. Good luck.
        Message 3 of 17 , Oct 30, 2004
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          John,

          I have a Heidi that is ready for planking. It has been that way for close to three years now. Other boats have taken my away from her. Good luck.

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        • Scott
          William hit the nail-on-the-head... I can t begin to count the number of books I ve read and learned a tip or technique in some phase of building a boat. I
          Message 4 of 17 , Oct 31, 2004
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            William hit the nail-on-the-head... I can't begin to count the
            number of books I've read and learned a tip or technique in some
            phase of building a boat. I just looked at my copy of "From a Bare
            Hull" by Ferenc Mate copyright 1975. Although, the book is about
            finishing a fiberglass bare hull, the tecchiques can be used for any
            hull material.. So may ideas I don't dare get rid of it. That book
            survived my last spring cleaning. So many others, the so-so ones,
            have been donated to the local library.

            John you should think about William's suggestion. From what I've
            seen at each of your web sites, you could write such a book..

            Scott


            In AtkinBoats@yahoogroups.com, "William E. Parker" <wmeparker@c...>
            wrote:
            > As far as lofting is concerned, I think the Gougeon book on
            boatbuilding,
            > which may have now morphed into two books (I haven't looked
            recently), is
            > very good and the techniques result in a very fair hull. The
            method for
            > dealing with planking thickness in developing stations is very well
            > worked-out, and very quick.
            >
            > On the question of which books are important, I think all mentioned
            in the
            > latest string have been very good and worth having.
            > My interest trends more toward design than boatbuilding, but, for
            all his
            > faults, Chapelle is indispensible in both. There are some books,
            like
            > chapelle, which provide a good grounding in the basics of
            boatbuilding.
            > Then there are boats that provide, here and there, excellent
            techniques for
            > a particular operation, say spiling, or developing the angles on a
            > breasthook. And that is why we all have more than two or three,
            because no
            > book to date provides both a grounding in the basics, and all
            those "hints
            > and tips". Or at least I haven't found it.
            >
            > Say, John, somebody should write that book...
            >
          • Scott
            JohnM, Just found an article you might be interested in reading. It s February 15, 2001 issue from Messing About in Boats titled A $10 - 10 Minute Steam
            Message 5 of 17 , Oct 31, 2004
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              JohnM, Just found an article you might be interested in reading.
              It's February 15, 2001 issue from "Messing About in Boats" titled "A
              $10 - 10 Minute Steam Box" By Jack Dice. Click on the link.
              http://www.messingaboutinboats.com/archives/mbissuefebruary01.html

              Enjoy.

              Scott
            • JohnyM7@excite.com
              Thanks Scott. It sounds like a great idea. JohnM ... From: Scott [mailto: sdholt@yahoo.com] To: AtkinBoats@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 13:31:20
              Message 6 of 17 , Oct 31, 2004
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                Thanks Scott. It sounds like a great idea.

                JohnM




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                Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 13:31:20 -0000
                Subject: [AtkinBoats] Re: Lady Joan

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                <BR>
                JohnM,� Just found an article you might be interested in reading.� <BR>
                It's February 15, 2001 issue from "Messing About in Boats" titled "A <BR>
                $10 - 10 Minute Steam Box" By Jack Dice. Click on the link.<BR>
                <a href="http://www.messingaboutinboats.com/archives/mbissuefebruary01.html">http://www.messingaboutinboats.com/archives/mbissuefebruary01.html</a><BR>
                <BR>
                Enjoy.<BR>
                <BR>
                Scott<BR>
                <BR>
                <BR>
                <BR>
                <BR>
                <BR>
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              • JohnyM7@excite.com
                There is another book I intend to purchase, Boatbuilding in Your Own Backyard by Sam Rabl. Rabl designed boats for backyard builders all his life. His book
                Message 7 of 17 , Nov 8, 2004
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                  There is another book I intend to purchase, "Boatbuilding in Your Own Backyard" by Sam Rabl. Rabl designed boats for backyard builders all his life. His book is probably out-of-date regarding manufacturers, suppliers and products, but I am sure it contains a great deal of useful information for the amateur builder.

                  JohnM




                  --- On Thu 10/28, jkohnen@... wrote:
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                  Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:27:42 -0700
                  Subject: [AtkinBoats] Boatbuilding Books

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                  <tt>
                  Anybody have any other suggestions for boatbuilding books that would be<BR>
                  helpful for builders of Atkin boats?<BR>
                  <BR>
                  Glen-L's BOATBUILDING WITH PLYWOOD, at least in the earlier editions I've<BR>
                  seen in used book stores, seems like a good one for builder's of the Atkins'<BR>
                  plywood boats:<BR>
                  <BR>
                  <a href="http://www.glen-l.com/books/bb.html">http://www.glen-l.com/books/bb.html</a><BR>
                  <BR>
                  Their book on engine installation mainly covers large auto engine<BR>
                  conversions. Anybody know of a good book that covers engine installation?<BR>
                  <BR>
                  On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 00:45:39 -0700 (PDT), Scott wrote:<BR>
                  ...<BR>
                  "BOATBUILDING" by Howard I. Chapelle is excellent<BR>
                  reference as well as Robert M. Steward's "BOATBUILDING<BR>
                  MANUAL."� However, if you are building your first boat<BR>
                  or a bit larger boat I would have to recommend George<BR>
                  Buehler's "Buehler's Backyard Boatbuilding."� This is<BR>
                  the book that George calls his shop manual.�� It gives<BR>
                  step-by-step instructions from lofting (very simple<BR>
                  the George way), laying the keel, cutting the rabbit<BR>
                  line, frame construction, interior construction,<BR>
                  building a mast, everything, and its fun to read, even<BR>
                  if you're not building a boat.� Very clear, easy to<BR>
                  follow with lots of drawings and photos.. I have all<BR>
                  three..<BR>
                  ...<BR>
                  <BR>
                  --<BR>
                  ������������������������ John <jkohnen@...><BR>
                  ������������������������� <a href="http://www.boat-links.com/">http://www.boat-links.com/</a><BR>
                  ��������������������� One boat just leads to another.<BR>
                  ������������������������������ <John Kohnen><BR>
                  <BR>
                  <BR>
                  <BR>
                  </tt>

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                  No flaming, cursing, politics, religion or public mopery. Please be polite. <BR>
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                  <BR>
                  The current Atkin boat plans catalog is online at <BR>
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