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1463Re:Has anyone ever actually built Restless?

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  • darrylhammonds
    Feb 19, 2007
      Below is an email from a Westerbeke dealer in California concerning the W70GA engine I
      was considering for Restless.

      Dear Mr. Hammonds,

      Thank you for your inquiry on the Westerbeke W-70GA. Pricing is as follows:

      W-70 w/ ZF 25M 2.7:1 Transmission 11,232.00 + Shipping
      W-70 - Bobtail 8,698.00 + Shipping.

      This engine would have to be built and shipped from Westerbeke in Taunton, MA.

      If you have any questions, please contact me at 714/ 373-8099 or e-mail @

      Best regards,

      Rod Mendenhall
      TDC Equipment Inc.
      15886 Manufacture Lane
      Huntington Beach, CA. 92649
      714/ 373-8099
      714/ 898-1996-fax

      Wow, thats alot of money for a 66hp gas engine considering I can get a brand new Volvo
      Penta 3.0L with ZF45C trans for about $6 grand! I suppose Restless is a dead design as I
      am definately not putting that kind of cash out. I suppose I need to go to Westlawn and
      lean how to design runabouts for todays motors.


      --- In AtkinBoats@yahoogroups.com, "John Kohnen" <jkohnen@...> wrote:
      > I'll ask my friend how much he paid for the Westerbeke gas four he put
      > into that Bartender. The engine manufacturers and marinizers think that
      > all those under 100 hp. engines are going to go into sailboats, so they
      > come standard with a hefty reduction. A 1:1 reverse gear would work better
      > in a light runabout like Restless.
      > There _were_ lightweight 133" engines in the '30s. I've got a borrowed
      > copy of the "boatshow" issue of MoToR BoatinG from 1937 that has a table
      > of "America's Leading Marine Engines." Here are a couple of lightweights
      > (weights w. reverse gear):
      > Falcon (US Motors) 46 134" 46 hp. @ 3,200 324 lb.
      > Kermath Sea Bird 134" 50 hp. @ 3200 315 lb.
      > Too new for the list is:
      > "A newcomer to the series of marine engines manufactured by the Red Wing
      > Motor Company of Red Wing, Minn., is the Arrowhead Junior model, a 4
      > cylinder, 4 cycle type, with a bore of 3 1/4 inches, stroke of 4 inches,
      > and piston displacement of 133 cubic inches. This engine is similar in
      > design and construction to the Arrowhead 25-45 h.p. type which has been so
      > popular during the past three years. The new engine is lighter in weight
      > and is particularly compact, being only 35 inches overall.
      > "The Arrowhead, Jr., will be furnished in two types. A medium-duty type
      > with gray iron pistons and castings has a rating of 20-40 h.p. The weight
      > is approximately 450 pounds. It will also be available in a special
      > high-speed type having alloy pistons and aluminum castings for the oil-
      > pan, reverse gear cover and flywheel housing. This engine will develop
      > from 40 to 55 h.p. at speeds of approximately 3,500 r.p.m. Weight will be
      > under 400 pounds. Deliveries have already begun on this model. It is
      > especially suited to fast runabouts, yet rugged enough for cruiser or
      > auxiliary service. It has a 2 1/8-inch crankshaft and lubrication is of
      > the full pressure feed type. Regular equipment includes the two-unit
      > 6-volt electric starting system and Paragon reverse gear. Optional
      > equipment includes 2 to 1 ratio reduction gear furnished as an integral
      > unit."
      > On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 06:39:31 -0800, darryl wrote:
      > > John, thanks for the reply. That was good information. I asked
      > > Westerbeke if the W70GA
      > > could be used with a 1:1 transmission (since it comes bobtail) vice the
      > > 2.7:1 that it usually
      > > comes with. They said a ZF45C could easily be used. I sent some emails
      > > to a few dealers
      > > but no answer as of yet to the cost. Westerbeke wouldn't answer that
      > > question either. I
      > > can't "just call" as I am in Iraq right now. Do you know how much your
      > > friend paid?
      > --
      > John <jkohnen@...>
      > Never put off until tomorrow what you can do the day after
      > tomorrow. <Mark Twain>
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