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      From: Atul Singh Nischal <atulsinghnischal@...>
      To: S H <saffyhuk@...>
      Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2007 5:28:04 PM
      Subject: Fw: Asiatic Lion & Barasinga seen near our Border of India and Pakistan

       

      Sarfraz

      The Deer they are talking about in News in Pakistan, if at all, may be Sambar Deer not a Barasinga, Sambar is not very rare, many wildlife sanctuaries have lot of sambar deer, it looks like a barasinga too.

      Sambar Deer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sambar_Deer

      And Nilgais (
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nilgai) are very common in India, Hindu people dont kill it because it looks like a Gai / Cow which is considered sacred, now a days having become numerous Nilgais do a lot of damage to crops in India as in the farmland all other wildlife is gone, but Nilgai is left.

      We are trying hard to save our wildlife now in
      India, but in many cases we have lost most of its wild habitat and forests.

      It is so nice to see you all also interested in preserving the wildlife too.

      Sincerely

      Atul

      ----- Forwarded Message ----
      From: S H <saffyhuk@...>
      To: Atul Singh Nischal <atulsinghnischal@...>
      Cc: paknatureconservancy@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2007 6:25:56 PM
      Subject: Re: Asiatic Lion & Barasinga seen near our Border of India and Pakistan

       

      they have caught a number of deer which they said is the Bharasinga and they are crossing over again. their are photos too.

       

      could it be the sambar deer ?

       

      Found in Pakistan News: Crossing of Bharasinga over into Pakistan from India

      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PakNatureConservancy/message/2574

      (Also Please read all the Group Discussion Messages attached below the above message of our group discussing possibility of Bharasinga crossing over into Pakistan)

       

       

      ----- Forwarded Message ----
      From: Atul Singh Nischal <atulsinghnischal@...>
      To: S H <saffyhuk@...>
      Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2007 5:01:26 PM
      Subject: Re: Asiatic Lion & Barasinga seen near our Border of India and Pakistan

       

      Hi Sarfraz

      No they are just rumors Lions have not reached
      Rann of Kutch.

      Lions are spilling out of Gir now but to adjoining areas only few miles, though they once were spotted in Dieu which is closer to Gir on the sea beach, but were brought back, Asiatic Lions are very very critically endangered, they were hunted and killed off all over Asia as they live in the open land. As you know these are the last wild Asiatic Lions left in the whole world. Zoos in
      India and Europe are helping to breed some in captivity.

      Also the Barasinga is almost extinct, only found in
      Madhya Pradesh, Central India, Kanha National Park (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanha_National_Park), they could never have crossed into Pakistan as claimed, I sent you all "Wikipedia the free Encyclopedia" links, it had an article on Barasinga.

      Sambar Deer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sambar_Deer

      Barasinga Deer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barasinga

      In USA like blackbuck and nilgai they also have Barasinga in hunting ranches, these animals live in USA on wild lands in Texas, they were taken there long time ago almost 100 years, in USA hunters pay big money to shoot them, some of that money comes back to India to save these animals and their original habitat here, I have heard. It is
      USA Government policy to send back money to preserve all exotic animals that they have in hunting ranches there, in their home countries.

      Atul

      ----- Original Message ----
      From: S H <saffyhuk@...>
      To: Atul Singh Nischal <atulsinghnischal@...>
      Cc: paknatureconservancy@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2007 2:15:18 PM
      Subject: Re: Asiatic Lion: Latest on Gujarat State Government’s “Tactics” to avoid loosing their sole ownership on wild free ranging Asiatic Lions, their “Tourist Attraction” and “Revenue Generator”….

       

      i had heard from a Pakistan army officer 2 lions were spotted at the Rann of Kutch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rann_of_Kutch)border, which is fenced.....he is sure they were lion 

       

      could lions have spread so far from gir?



      Atul Singh Nischal <atulsinghnischal@...> wrote:

       

      Thank you Sarfraz, for your good wishes for our poor "Babbar Shers" (Asiatic Lion), may they reclaim more of their original Kingdom.

      Best Wishes

      Atul

       

      ----- Forwarded Message ----
      From: sarfraz <saffyhuk@...>
      To: Atul Singh Nischal <atulsinghnischal@...>
      Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2007 10:31:48 AM
      Subject: Re: Asiatic Lion: Latest on Gujarat State Government’s “Tactics” to avoid loosing their sole ownership on wild free ranging Asiatic Lions, their “Tourist Attraction” and “Revenue Generator”….


      i hope the lion (Asiatic Lion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asiatic_Lion) can once again parade over its former range slowly!

       

      For any reponse to any emailsd I send please contact me personally on saffyhuk@... or sarfraz_hayat@...

       

       

      Latest on Gujarat State Government’s “Tactics” to avoid loosing their sole ownership on wild free ranging Asiatic Lions, their “Tourist Attraction” and “Revenue Generator”….

      Though any kind of critically endangered Asiatic Lion’s habitat enlargement within the state boundary of Gujarat is a very very favorable and a welcome move, some Asiatic Lions have to be reintroduced in Kuno Wildlife Sanctuary in state of Madhya Pradesh which is a part of more then 3700sq kilometers big forest range, most of which can become a home of growing population of initially reintroduced Asiatic Lions in the decades to come, lot has already been said why it is crucial to reintroduce Asiatic Lions to Kuno Wildlife Sanctuary.

      Also Asiatic Lions are social animals they have to be Tran located in “Prides” and not “Pairs” as Gujarat Government wants to do as suggested in the latest news article below. One male to 3 or 4 females, if reintroduced in pairs the dominant male with fight with other males and probably take all the females and the breeding potential of the other males will be lost within Badra and will be a loss to Gir Population too. There will be frequent fights for taking over the pride by out caste males. Gujarat Forest Department has to be warned to follow the advice of internationally recognized experts, experts from the Wildlife Institute of India (WII) and the Reintroduction Specialist Group of the IUCN.

      And how have they arrived at Trans locating 10 Asiatic Lions in pairs, i.e. 5 males and 5 females, to just a very minute area of 192.35 sq km…………, have they taken into account the earlier studies on the hunting range of a pride of Asiatic Lions etc.

      atulsinghnischal@...

      ASIATIC LION GROUP

      http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Asiatic_Lions/

       

      Gir lions to find new abode at Barda Hills

       Express News Service

      Gandhinagar, January 31, 2007:

      In a tactical move which may water down the argument to shift the Gir lion to Madhya Pradesh, the State Government has decided to introduce big cats to the region of Barda Hills lying between Porbandar and Jamnagar.

      Declared a sanctuary sometime ago, the 192.35 sq km of undulating terrain resembles Sasan, but is yet to get its share of lion population.

      "We would be introducing five pairs of lion in the next few months in Barda," said State Forest Minister Mangubhai Patel addressing newspersons at his office on Wednesday.

      The State Forest Department had proposed Barda as an alternative site for the expansion of home for the Asiatic lion. As a preparation for this, breeding centre for antelopes and hare was started sometime ago. The region already has a healthy population of blue bull and wild boar.

      Though the population of lions from Gir has spread outside Sasan (Junagadh) to satellite areas of Mitiyala, Girnar, and Hipavadi, the cats in these regions have always been connected with the main population in Gir sanctuary.

      With Barda at a distance of 130 km with no corridors to Gir, it would help develop and independent lion region in the State, said officials, adding that given the emotions involved, no one in the State is ready shift lions to MP.

      "The shifting of lions to MP has failed twice in 1974 and 1981. The government is not ready for another chance," said a senior official.

      The minister said apart from Barda, the area between Savarkundla and Mahuva spread over 125 sq km too was being strengthened as a lion habitat. As of now, Asiatic lion population is spread over 1450 sq km in the State, with the last census pegging the figure at 359.

      http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=220096

       

      More Asiatic Lion News:

      Amongst other research sources also visit:

      “Asiatic Lion information Centre” and also its “Latest News (1997 onwards)” pages to see how Gujarat has been acting overly selfish and preventing the much needed re-introduction of “some” Asiatic Lions to Central India, how important it is for Gujaratis to become wiser now to the true needs of ensuring the long term survival of their Asiatic Lions:

      http://www.asiatic-lion.org/news.html  

       

      Blog on Latest News articles on Asiatic Lion and Gir by ALPS, Asiatic Lion Protection Society (ALPS) (a group Wildlife enthusiasts), Blog created by Kishore Kotecha, Rajkot INDIA i.e. one of their founding members and of our Asiatic Lion Group:
      http://asiatic-lion.blogspot.com/

      www.asiaticlion.org/

       

      The Asiatic Lion Group:         

      http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Asiatic_Lions/

      Group messages with lot of information on Asiatic Lions accessible to all: 

      http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Asiatic_Lions/messages

      LINKS ON - ASIATIC LION:

      http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Asiatic_Lions/message/139

       

      Source:

      http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Asiatic_Lions/message/167

      http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Asiatic_Lions/message/165

      http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Asiatic_Lions/message/163

      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PakNatureConservancy/message/2635

       

       

       

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      Search the search-box of "Wikipedia the Free Encyclopedia" on the web to look for your answers, it’s a free Encyclopedia that public can write and edit or add information too:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

      On using Wikipedia and just some Wildlife and Consrvation related articles on it:

      http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Asiatic_Lions/message/72

      http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Asiatic_Lions/message/73

      http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Asiatic_Lions/message/162





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