- Sorry, Lloyd, wish I had been able to be there. As it was, it was a time my brother David found it was the only time he and his family could travel to see me! I had just recently had an open heart operation. I need to improve on my planning. Next year to the conference! I'm trying to reread my DNA book and am finding it's making more sense now that we've actually had the 67 allele test and have more results. Nadene----- Original Message -----From: Lloyd FriedmanSent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 3:49 AMSubject: Re: [Ashkenazi-Q]I might as well add my 3 cents. I wish I had more of an understanding. That is why I went to the converance which was very disapointing.i learned very little. Our DNA group had 6 people show up. 1/2 of them not in our group.----- Original Message -----From: Abramselaine@ aol.comSent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 12:36 AMSubject: Re: [Ashkenazi-Q]I have been at this a long time, B.J., but feel the same as you do. I greatly appreciate the time and effort put into this by Rebecca, Dave, and several others but I am totally lost.Thank you for speaking.ElaineIn a message dated 9/9/2009 3:48:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bjmva@verizon. net writes:
I'm anxious to know what is happening with the new 67 marker results coming
in. Have you determined results and explanations yet? I know that you have
been rearranging info on the sites, but being somewhat of a newbie, I'm not
understanding the results. First, I don't understand what markers to look
at that mean "Something". I can see matches, but which specific markers
does one look at that tells you it is specific to the Jewish population or
not? I can see that there is a Hough, Riley, Huff, Hoff and Marlow that
have the 385a,b markers 13,13 and none of the others in the study have this,
yet we are all in the Q1b. What does that specifically mean?
Secondly, I see the "null" values and see that it applies to just about
everyone in the Q1b group. I don't know what that means. Please point me
to a specific reference that I can read and understand what the markers mean
and what the difference in a -1 or +1 marker difference from others in the
group. I know that means a mutation, but which direction? Is the +1 more
than others a newest mutation or older?
I know you all are working diligently on getting all the updates, but there
are basic things that I can't find anywhere that might help me to understand
what I am seeing.
In one email, Howard indicates to someone that he can tell that the mtDNA of
someone is IRISH. I'm not understanding things like that. I know in the
beginning when I sent you my brother's yDNA, you could tell immediately that
it appeared to fit into the Jewish "Q" group. It's information like that
that and more that I am seeking.
I realize that I have not had the advanced education in this field that you
all have; but, I am frustrated not understanding. I now know the basics;
I'm ready to move beyond that.
I am a member of project Q and Hough/Huff/Hoff. Do I need to be in other
I hope you have the time to respond. I apologize to the others in the groups
that seem to understand this and might find this email boring.
B. J. Marlow