I DNA match a WOlin(sky) family in G2c, Steve Orlen's cousin.
But we have no other Wolinsky kin--the name became Wolinsky for unexplained reasons in 1884 in NYC. It had been Sragan in Lithuania.
--- In Ashkenazi-Q@yahoogroups.com, "Lloyd Friedman" <lloydon@...> wrote:
> Are you related to the Wolinsky's of NJ. I am.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: wolinsky@...
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> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 8:27 AM
> Subject: [Ashkenazi-Q] Re: Tarnawa-Krupa
> I find the comments on Radziwill interesting as a fan of Dave Howard and a follower of Q.
> My mother's mother (HV1) and father's father (G2c) both came from Radziwill controlled parts of Lithuania, Slobodka and Keidan. There have been suggestions of the Sicilian/Italian connection before.
> I visited Lithuania in 2007. In Keidan, they speak of progressive Radizwill inviting in Jews who had been vetted to be weavers. (The count also invited Scottish engineers. Keidan was the Silicon Valley of Lithuania, more or less.)
> Perhaos this is a connection with the Radanites and the Silk Road as well.
> > Saul Wahl is a legendary figure whose historicity cannot be
> > confirmed and whose existence is dubious. Nevertheless, the
> > story is widespread, and deserves to be commented upon. Saul is
> > said to have been the son of a Rabbi of Padua (Samuel Judah
> > Katzenellenbogen). Gifted with extraordinary wisdom, he was
> > found by a Polish Noble (Nicholas Radziwill) who had been
> > assisted by Saul's father in Italy and asked to search for him -
> > finding him living in penurious circumstances in Brest-Litovsk,
> > Radziwill is said to have favoured Saul with gifts and
> > influence. When Stephen Bathory died, circumstances were such
> > that Radziwill was offered the throne pro tempore, until a
> > permanent candidate could be found, but he refused, saying that
> > a much wiser man than he was a better candidate. He prevailed
> > upon the Polish Sjem to elect Saul as rex pro tempore, and Saul
> > is said to have discharged his office for a short time in very
> > creditable fashion. Again, it isn't a very likely tale, but it
> > does point up the fact the Jewish community in Greater Poland
> > was very large and relatively influential during the Middle
> > Ages. http://web.raex.com/~obsidian/baltic.htmlruler.
> > The Polish Nobility emerged as a clan (family or tribe) system
> > before 1000 A.D. Each clan had its own mark, a tamga, which
> > eventually evolved into the symbols found on Polish coats of
> > arms. The noble class became landowners. Most noblemen in Poland
> > and Lithuania claimed only to belong to the szlachta odwieczna or
> > immemorial nobility. This meant that all knowledge of their
> > origins had long since been lost, and was beyond their memory.
> > Szlachta combined "high birth" and "military prowess" together
> > in medieval times. Nobles were originally tribal chiefs. Poland
> > had a large nobility. About ten percent (10%) of the population
> > was noble, as compared to the one (1%) to two (2%) percent in
> > the rest of Europe. The Polish State was set up to serve the
> > Polish nobleman.
> > Margaret Odrowaz Sypnievska -
> > http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/PolNobility.html
> > Citiram Dave Howard <dshoward@>:
> > > Dear Professor Krupa,
> > >
> > > Thank you for your kindness in sharing your wonderful report. I do not
> > > find it inconsistent with my Radanite theory since the Radanites are
> > > given credit for having convinced the Khazarian royalty to convert to
> > > Judaism.
> > >
> > > I will study your report carefully as well as your references.
> > >
> > > Your English is wonderful. You present your ideas very
> > > straightforwardly.
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > >
> > > Dave Howard
> > >
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