RE: [Ashkenazi-Q] Re: Perfect Match?
- yeah, Barry was great
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 18:24:19 -0500
Subject: Re: [Ashkenazi-Q] Re: Perfect Match?
If memory serves me correctly, Dave Howard was a journalist.On 1/1/2013 2:12 PM, laryoung wrote:
We need a volunteer to step forward and replace Barry. The work he did for all of us in interviewing new Q1b's and then editing the response so we knew how many Doctor's, Lawyer's, and Engineer's etc. were amongst us, where we live and our stories is really missed. I think there were approximately two dozen new Q1b's last year (2012) about whom we know nothing and they know nothing about the rest of us. I would consider doing it but I was raised Christian and cannot answer questions or read tombstone inscriptions such as Barry was able to do; also as an engineer I'm not a good wordsmith. How about one of our lawyer cousins who understands the customs and traditions of most of us stepping forward since I do not recall another newspaper person such as Barry within our ranks.
--- In Ashkenazi-Q@yahoogroups.com, Janette Silverman <jsilverman@...> wrote:
> Indeed Barry was - I quoted him extensively in the sction on DNA in my
> On 12/31/2012 7:21 AM, rlkushner@... wrote:
> > Thanks for the information. I came to the same conclusion, but you put
> > it together in a more logical easy to understand manner.
> > I miss Barry Zwick. Barry was a great asset to the Site. I was shocked
> > when he died. I had no idea he suffered from diabetes. Dave, you always
> > have made important contributions as well.
> > bob kushner
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > *From: *"Dave" <dshoward@...>
> > *To: *Ashkenazi-Q@yahoogroups.com
> > *Sent: *Sunday, December 30, 2012 8:14:18 PM
> > *Subject: *[Ashkenazi-Q] Re: Perfect Match?
> > David,
> > I am the group administrator for the Jewish-Q group at Family Tree DNA.
> > I would say this. If your nearest match is at a genetic distance of 1
> > you will not find more matches at all if you have more markers tested.
> > You will be wasting your money unless you want to put a feather in the
> > cap of Rebecca for getting more people to spend money.
> > Here is why - If at 12 markers you had 50 exact matches your closest
> > relative could have been hundreds of years ago. You need to have more
> > markers tested to see how many of the 50 are close relatives. If you go
> > to 37 markers and have 5 exact matches you should be able to exchange
> > information with those 5 and see if you can connect.
> > When they check more of your markers against others you are going to
> > have fewer and fewer exact matches.
> > I had 3 exact matches at 37 and we could not connect. We all went to 67
> > markers and now I have no exact matches. -- If I go to 111 markers I
> > would be completely wasting my money if I am trying to find a relative.
> > I already have no exact matches. I am like you.
> > I think you would get a bigger bang for your buck by joining the Family
> > Finder at Family Tree DNA.
> > The family finder is disappointing because if you have an Ashkenazi
> > Jewish background you will find out our parents and grandparents were
> > all cousins.
> > My closest match in the family finder at Family Tree DNA is Max
> > Blankfield the #2 guy at Family Tree DNA and we cannot link up hardly at
> > all. He has relatives from Latvia and I have relatives from Latvia.
> > You might just want to stop for a while at Family Tree DNA and go to
> > 23andME.com They really give you a tremendous bargain for $99. You get
> > your yDNA, your mtDNA, their Relative Finder, plus health information.
> > They charge a monthly fee but it is pennies compared to how much Family
> > Tree DNA costs. They have a large Jewish database.
> > I hope this is useful information.
> > Dave Howard
> > --- In Ashkenazi-Q@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Ashkenazi-Q%40yahoogroups.com>, "davepelter" <pelter@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Andrew,
> > >
> > > Hi and greetings from Seattle. Coincidentally, I recently asked
> > Rebekah Canada, who manages both a Jewish Q project for FTDNA as well as
> > a Facebook group called Q yDNA Haplogroup Project, to analyze my
> > father's Y-DNA profile. My father's name is Stanley Pelter and his kit #
> > at FTDNA is 240219. The interesting thing is that Rebekah specifically
> > referenced kit # 247540, which I believe is your kit, as one that
> > appears very closely related. I've pasted the text below from the
> > Facebook board which is Rebekah's response:
> > >
> > > "Y-DNA37: Your matches have dropped off sharply. Your closest match
> > is a genetic distance of one away to kit 247540. Unfortunately, he does
> > not have Y-DNA67 results. Y-DNA67: Ah, you do not have Y-DNA67 results
> > either. I think that if you can convince the owner of kit 247540 to also
> > upgrade, it would be worth it."
> > >
> > > So, it appears that we might be closely related, assuming you are the
> > kit mentioned above. I have gone ahead and upgraded to the Y-DNA67 test;
> > it that something you have done yet?
> > >
> > > Kind Regards,
> > > Dave Pelter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Ashkenazi-Q@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Ashkenazi-Q%40yahoogroups.com>, "andrew.ackerman@"
> > <andrew.ackerman@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am new to this group and I was not raised Jewish. My Y-DNA was
> > Haplogroup Q, M242, and on a 67 marker test, I am a perfect match to
> > another member of this group. I know nothing about my paternal ancestry,
> > so I can't use surnames to trace my lineage. But since I am a perfect
> > match (0 step)... where is it logical to look in the generations for a
> > common ancestor?
> > > > The person I match with is the same age as I am and we live far
> > away from one another. Since Y-DNA is between father and son....would
> > that mean that a brother would also share that same link? For example,
> > if he knows his paternal line back to his grandfather...and his
> > grandfather had 2 brothers...wouldn't all 3 of them share the same
> > Y-DNA? And if all three of the brothers shared the same Y-DNA, then
> > wouldn't all their sons share it also? But eventually, as we went back
> > in time, we would meet at a common great+ grandfather at some point. Am
> > I thinking straight on this?
> > > > Are there any educated guesses how many generations back a perfect
> > match at 67 markers might be? I was extremely lucky to find a perfect
> > match, especially since I know nothing about my father or his family.
> > Any help or guidance that you can give me would be greatly appreciated.
> > I am fairly advanced at research, but I have never specifically
> > researched Jewish heritage.
> > > >
> > >