"I recently attended the Group Administrators' Conference in Houston Texas put on by Family Tree DNA. Thanks to the good work of Rebekah Canada, Alissandro Biondo and others, the Y-chromosome Tree has been updated. Most of us are now Q1b1*. There are new tests in process right now which may show we are Q1b1a or Q1b1b.
If you go to Rebekah's site at Family Tree DNA you can see how the
new SNPs have changed the chart. What she does not show is the newly published
tree which does recognize some of her work. What is most significant for all of
us is that we all probably have the L245 SNP.
Click on this link to see Rebekah's New Tree.
When we all first started we were told we were in
Haplogroup Q meaning that we had the M242 SNP generic to all Haplogroup Q
members. It is theorized that this mutation took place about 20,000 years ago in
Siberia. Then they found the P36.2 SNP which showed we branched off from the
Siberian group more than 12,000 years ago when a group of Q's migrated to the
More recently they found we all had M378 SNP which is
found among a small percentage of the Hazara tribe in India and a small
percentage of the Sindhi tribe of Pakistan. How and when this link to a group of
Ashkenazi Jewish people took place has been the subject of some interesting and
confusing debates in this chat room.
But the L245 SNP is downstream from
the M378. Downstream means evolved later in time. This makes us even more
unique. Two of our members have SNPs downstream from the
L245. One is the L272 and the other is the L315.
These more recent mutations
may have evolved within a few hundred years in the Mediterranean
- My personal opinion regarding the Hazara tribe in India and the Sindhis in Pakistan is that if our Patriarch was still around, or if his mummified body wasMessage 1 of 1 , Oct 5, 2012View SourceMy personal opinion regarding the Hazara tribe in India and the Sindhis in Pakistan is that if our Patriarch was still around,or if his mummified body was available, we would find that Abraham and his forefathers would have origin genetics from eitherthe Hazaras or the Sindhis, or from both these peoples.My second opinion is that Freddy's links with the Goldfoot/Goldfuss/Zolotaya-Nogai link from the earliest time of the caravaneersalong the Silk Route i.e. via the upper Northern route coming out of Mongolia through China / Tibet / Northern India to Mesopotamia;and via the Southern route via Shanghai / Afghanistan to Mesopotamia / Canaan (Palestine) / Egypt (Alexandria on the Mediterranean)and the Islands of Crete and Cyprus in particular.Sam samDina----- Original Message -----From: NADENE GOLDFOOTSent: Friday, October 05, 2012 6:40 AMSubject: Re: Q1b1a Haplogroup Update Origins--Mediterranean Area