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1650Re: My mysterious lineage

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  • J
    Jan 16, 2012
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      I don't have more than 12 markers at this time, but getting more markers definitely seems like something I should look into.

      Thanks for the info!

      Jim

      --- In Ashkenazi-Q@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <cdbaysinger@...> wrote:
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      > Do you have more than 12 markers? My Swiss German ancestors were Q1b1a* any Jewish roots are Conjectural, as far back as the 16th century they were Christians, German speaking farmers. and all my close matches are likely Swiss, though they may be listed as German or French, They were Mennonites or close relations.
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      > I have swiss matches at 1200 and possibly 1800 years separate. my closest know Jewish(Ashkenazim) match is at least 2100 years away, And the Swiss Identity is only 500 years old, the Allemanic and German Identities are 1500. The Swiss, Bavarian and Swabian Germans were for the most part Germanized Celts. So your Q could be Fully Jewish, fully German, fully Swiss, or all the above.
      >
      > Quote: Rebekah Canada
      > DYF395S1 is a very slow changing marker. All Ashkenazi Jewish Q1b1a men have DYF395SI = 15-18 or 15-19. Others, who are not Jews or who are other types of Jews (Mizrachi, Sephardi, etc.) have different values.
      >
      > My values for DYF395S1 are 15-17
      > So you should check those values or get them tested, beyond the National Genographic Project, go to FTDna.com or 23andme.com
      >
      > --- In Ashkenazi-Q@yahoogroups.com, "J" <jvonschilling@> wrote:
      > >
      > > I just joined this group after finding out via the Genographic Project that I'm in Haplogroup Q - M242.
      > >
      > > The mystery comes from the fact that my father, who died 50 years ago, was most likely an imposter who did a very good job of covering his tracks. He was a "Don Draper" (Mad Men on TV)-type guy, working on Wall Street and living in the suburbs with a wife and kids. He had a Germanic last name and a story about his background that has proven to be very dubious.
      > >
      > > I'm joining this group because of the following:
      > >
      > > (1) It makes sense that he might have been hiding a Jewish background, since other young men from that time (1920s) did the same thing.
      > >
      > > (2) My DYS chart from the Genographic Project is almost a match to one that I found online for Ashkenazi-Q's. The only difference was DYS439 -- I have a value of 12 instead of 16.
      > >
      > > (I also have a DYS385a of 14 and a DYS385b of 16, but there is no listing for those DYS's in the Ashkenazi-Q table I saw online.)
      > >
      > > I realized awhile back that the only clues my Dad seemed to have left me are the ones I carry inside me -- and my DNA, in particular. My facial features are a little unusual -- somewhat like Frank Langella's. If I were in show biz, I could probably play a villain who's Spanish (which is my mom's lineage) or Arabic or Jewish or maybe even Asian -- but not the German that the last name I got from my father would seem to indicate.
      > >
      > > I'm open to suggestions as to how to proceed from here.
      > >
      > > Jim
      > >
      >
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