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2512Re: What is Sidir?

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  • Marla
    Jul 8, 2008
      I enjoyed reading this alot.Looked up Foxfire. and I have a special
      place in the back of the yard I am setting up for meditation...has a
      few stumps and i intend on using them to sit on under lots of oak
      trees...seems as tho info comes to me at times I am wondering but do
      not ask...this has been one of the inspirations I needed.... Thanks
      for this piece! BB ~V~

      --- In Asatru-U@yahoogroups.com, "Anthony W. McPherson"
      <Gothisson@...> wrote:
      > A bit indepth and rambling, but I hope this helps.
      > "Magic" of which seidir is a part, is the manipulation and / or use
      > of Wyrd(sort of "what will happen by our own actions" and he gods
      > intervention) and Orlog (sort of "natural law") in a way that we as
      > humans in general cannot explain as we can in the subject we
      > call "science". In science we can explain where wood goes when it
      > burned to ashes, or water when it evaporates. Science is just the
      > part of Orlog that we can understand. If we make the wood or water
      > disappear in a way that science cannot yet explain, then we are
      > performing "magic".
      > From a Theological point of view, it is simply using the powers
      > around and from within us, which we cannot explain away
      by "science",
      > but of course that is from OUR point of view. To the Christians
      > Moslems, only their different gods can work outside of our
      > known "science", and all others are "worshipping Satan" or some
      > devil or demon of their religion.
      > After the coming of the Christian religions, anything practiced by
      > our holy men and women was "Black Magic" and any magic performed
      > their "holy men" was a "Miracle".
      > According to more than a few researchers, including Grimm in
      > his "Teutonic Mythology", any Magic along with any other subject
      > an outsider (or many "insiders" for that matter) would call "Magic"
      > or anything similar, were performed primarily by the older people
      > folk of a certain type For the most part. Elderly Women, "Dead to
      > love and labor" who had a knowledge of some herblore and cooking
      > decades of experience, and Older Shepherds (those with jobs not
      > requiring constant mental work-outs or attention and physical
      > who can stop and think for long periods of time). The younger men
      > had their time taken up with farming, adventuring (a few), warring
      > and defense of the stead while younger women were busy with the
      > keeping of the hall, and rearing of the children. Remember, this
      > a time when the children were actually raised, and that was the
      > of the women to teach them and stear them on the right path. Men
      > taught more of the "mechanics" of life.
      > Some rituals could be thought of as "magic" of a sort, but that is
      > simply the gods being asked to act. "Magic" as I use the term here
      > is more of the actions of the person, with some assistance of the
      > gods and goddesses in some cases.
      > There are few hard lines drawn between the different types
      > of "magic", many "gray areas" and borders between the different
      > exist. Many times people hold more than one skill or discipline
      > the crossover is just a natural occurrence. The following is a
      > generalization only!
      > Galdr: is the casting of magic by chanting or singing. The gods
      > goddesses, especially ODIN and BALDER are very much impressed, and
      > therefore influenced, by Poetry and Song. Verse and/or song
      > would "get their attention", especially if the song was well sung
      > the lyrics of the song or words of the poem were witty, sincere,
      > uplifting, honorable or ins some other way pleasing to them. The
      > words and music are also a type of "offering" or sacrifice which
      > might appreciate, if not just a "jingle" to attract their
      > This would include some of the runic type of magic, but not
      > necessarily all, and not all Galdr is Runic. This has been a
      > powerful type of magic in many cultures throughout history.
      > Lullabies were originally a charm sung over a baby before it went
      > sleep to protect him or her from wights that would harm them in the
      > night.
      > Love songs were originally "charms" or "spells" to win your
      > Little verses spoken or sung at different jobs or duties originated
      > as galdr, but today are just "silly little childhood songs". I
      > remember my mother and both grandmothers telling me of little
      > that they sung or recited at different times while performing
      > different jobs. To them, they were just "little ditties" to pass
      > time while doing as repetitious chore. In the more modern times,
      > they were correct, but the origin of those "little ditties" came
      > galdr, such as this verse to make cream churn into butter faster:
      > Come butter come
      > Come butter come
      > Johnny waits by the gate
      > With a warm buckwheat cake
      > Come butter come
      > The previous verse was probably a more modern version of the charm
      > spell, but it remains never the less. Also, I remember there was
      > verse for planting some seeds (in more modern, post Columbus times,
      > this particular verse usually referred to the planting of corn)
      > shows a sacrifice to some of nature`s creatures, the land wight and
      > tribute from the worker to The Karl (land owner):
      > (while planting seeds, one seed for each line of the charm)
      > One for the chicken
      > One for the crow
      > One for the farmer
      > And one to grow
      > There were also songs for doing laundry, milking cows and just
      > everything else. If you have elderly relatives from a rural
      > background or recent immigrants from Europe they may be able to
      > you many more examples of these little songs. Many of the old ways
      > are entombed in a series of books (my gods are they good)
      > called "FOXFIRE", which is a sort of "how to" series on how to do
      > everything from building a still in "hillbilly country" to making a
      > flintlock rifle to skinning a bear and planting a garden. Being of
      > the U.S. southern culture, the entire society was of course
      > Christianized and changed to suit the new land and situations, but
      > you can see the old ways and catch a glimpse of Old World beliefs
      > shining through in many of the stories, and instructions.
      > Your success depends upon your own power, dedication, concentration
      > and / or the powers that are being worked on your behalf by a
      > benevolent deity or spirit. You may "do everything correct" and
      > energies and powers, but it strong enough spiritual/deity force is
      > opposed to you, you will fail. On the other hand, you can be a
      > looser when it comes to ability in magic and succeed when those
      > forces are with you.
      > When performing galdr, again depending upon what is working with or
      > against you, the poem or song may be repeated many times (making it
      > into sort of a chant if it is short enough) or only once if it is
      > forceful enough and thought to have accomplished its purpose.
      > Unfortunately YOU will have to figure out which works for you, and
      > even which works for you in particular situations. If you are
      > luck, you will receive that information from the gods themselves
      > have the "guess work taken out of it altogether. You will also
      > to figure out which works better for you, singing, chanting or
      > reciting poetry-type charms/spells.
      > The attempt might b as elaborate as a full ritual as described in
      > GENERAL OUTLINE FOR A RITE OR RITUAL, from the previous section of
      > this NOTEBOOK, or as simple as Hammer Hallowing an area and sitting
      > comfortably in a quiet room, in the woods, a field, hilltop,
      > waterfall or wherever you might meet with success. Concentration
      > usually results in better success than relying on "window
      > but sometimes both are necessary. In other words, don't work so
      > on the "show" of a ritual that you let your concentration on the
      > desired outcome low ebb.
      > Within galdr, you might find other types of magic, or use galdr in
      > other types, especially magic using runes when they are sung or the
      > rune poem is spoken.
      > Spa: is a skill or gift for telling the future or prophecy. This
      > could be done with Runes, trances, or reading other signs. If the
      > power is strong with you, you might not need anything in
      > it will just come to you.
      > When using runes, calling upon deities and / or getting into a
      > state in order to receive information on the future, most use galdr.
      > Some of the deities to call upon are ODIN, SAGA and, if you think
      > that you can persuade her to communicate what she knows, FRIGGA
      > is said to NEVER reveal what she knows of the future). The mental
      > trance-like state that many go into is often self imposed by
      > to the deities for that purpose, or chanting certain runes to
      > that state.
      > Seidr: takes many definitions, or at least many different
      > Healing, mental magic & manipulation, channeling spirits, mind and
      > weather control, and other abilities. FREYA is a good one for this
      > although others can be chosen depending upon the reason and target
      > for and of the Seidr.
      > If runes are used as the power or tool for the work, and the names,
      > rune-poems or sounds are sung, or a chant is used to call the deity
      > desired for support, again, galdr is used. If channeling spirits
      > speaking with the dead for information on the future is used, then
      > spa is also used.
      > As you see, you can "jump" from one "type" of magic to another
      > without really planning to do so, it's a "come as you are needed"
      > type party.
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