RE: Why do we suffer when God is there ?
- Thanks a lot for presenting this wonderful discourses.
You are doing a great job.
Now-a-days no one talks about Janardan-Da and his association with Sri Sri Thakur. Janardan-Da's contribution to Satsang movement in India as well as in America is beyond imagination. I have not seen any prolific orator like him on Sri Sri Thakur. Someday, some one will rewriter and revisit the real history of Satsang movement............. The devotional story of Sri Sri Thankur's Krishti Santans.............112 South Senthi Road ( Janardan-Da's residence in Kolkata ) was is fact a source of attraction to me and a meeting place every week. I grew up with his indomitable waive of Satsang movement.
My last meeting with Janardan-Da was in July 1983 at Deoghar where he was struggling to recover from his stoke related disability.
Sorry I could not control the temptation to walk to my memory lane and share that feelings with you all. Sri Sri Thankur once said " Feelings are the Foundation of Faith". How can I ignore that ?
By the way, yesterday we celebrated Sri Sri Thankur's Birthday with great enthusiasm in New York. We will send you the details later.
Regards and Radhaswami to you and all.
Krishnendu Rudra M.B.A
Satsang Foundation USA Inc.
Chairman of the Board of Trustee.
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Subject: [Aryakrishti Vedic Dharma] Why do we suffer when God is there ?
Why do we suffer when God is there ?
[Janardan Mukherjee's conversations with Sri Sri Thakurji ]
"Can you tell me why man always wants someone or something that he can
never get ? In his distress he cries for `him', but that 'him'
never comes. Why should man worship such a one as God ? What does
he contribute to our needs ? During the days of famine and
starvation I saw the hungry people of my country being literally
withered to death and they wept and prayed to God in agony. But that
God never came ! So, what is the use of calling to him who pays no
heed to our prayers ?" I spoke with deep feeling and Thakur glanced
at me sympathetically and remained silent until he had seated himself
on the verandah of the Yati Ashram and we had taken our seat near
Then, looking at me he ( Sri Sri Thakur) began, "This world of ours
is created out of a cosmic process and so in everything we do we must
follow the process or the laws through which our needs may be satisfied.
Suppose you daily drink tea in a restaurant and with every sip you feel
that you are enjoying the elixir of life. But you remain unaware that
earlier each day a tuberculosis patient is drinking tea from the same
cup. You are finding pleasure no doubt, but it is pleasure gained at
the expense of being infected with tuberculosis. And though you do
not know it, yet your ignorance will not prevent the disease from
proceeding. What is the saying, 'Ignorace of the law is no excuse ?'
Well, so it is with the laws of universe. After a few years when the
disease will attack, you will say, `Oh, I never wanted this disease,
why does it come?' Here the same thing applies : the danger is coming
though you don't want it, for it must come because you, in your
ignorance, invited, coaxed and pleaded for it to take its abode in your
body ! You may say that this has come out of ignorance, but ignorance
is inexcusable in the of nature. When a child puts his hand in the
fire, it will be burned in spite of his dislike to be burned. Hence,
nature will not allow you to remain ignorant and even more, such
ignorance is sin in the dictionary of God."
" Even the history of human evolution describes how ignorance has been
eliminated and thorough and perfect knowledge achieved. The elements of
water exist all around you. But these elements alone will not give you
water unless you undertake the process of combining them properly
and raising them to the particular temperature necessary for
making water. So it is with everything-each has a long process
through which it evolves and God also, is the culmination of such long
process. Therefore, one of His names is "'Bidhata'. 'Bidhi' means
laws or system, an 'Bidhata' means 'He who holds the laws of life:
" So, if you want to know God, you must go through the process by
which God can be known to you. And that is the reason why God being
the creator must still undergo every suffering and all the rigours
involved in the process of the laws of life when He created himself
in human form. So, in the Gita, we find Lord Krishna saying `
They can know me only when they know the process through which I am
made.' ('Yo maam vetti tatvatah'). And those people who died of
starvation despite their anguished prayers to God were just like
the patients who continuously disobey the rules of life until disease
becomes incurable and then then they call for the doctor. But however
deeply the doctor may feel for their sufferings, he cannot cure them
because they have already destroyed themselves. He can only help them in
so far as they agree to return to the laws of life and to follow his
"So, the negation or opposite side of God is ignorance and to know God
means to know everything. Hence, when we follow a process that leads to
more ignorance, we follow the opposite of God. The famine and pestilence
were gained in such a way and when death became inevitable, all cried
and wept for God. No doubt God is shocked and pained to see our
sufferings, but unless we become concentric to him, unless we follow
his advice, no relief is possible. And this God is never a God in
the skies, but remains in a human form in which all those
qualities necessary for complete development and knowledge are embodied.
And, so, it is that those who try to understand the philosophy of
religion and to realize God in concrete and material terms are saved
from depending upon any mysterious and vague idea. Hence, in the Gita,
we find Lord Krishna saying, `Man cannot recognize Me because I come in
human form', and in the Bible, we find Lord Christ's loving longing
"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest and stonest the prophets,
them which are sent unto thee ; how often would I have gathered thy
children together, even as a hen gathered her chickens under her wings,
but ye would not."
"This living God Who knows everything and yet remains
wisely-foolish and gorgeously simple-this is the God that I realize
and no other God can exist for me besides this concrete God."
- Excerpts from " Who Thou The Revolutionary ?", written by Janardan
Mukherjee [ English translation by Ray Archer Hauserman]1956.
Published by- Satsang, Deoghar. [Janardan da was a Communist leader and
an ardent follower of Sri Sri Thakurji and ANANT SRI BABA. ]
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