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  • Freydis the Good
    Dec 3, 2009
      LOL!!!

      You are welcome,
      Freydis



      On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Lucia Clark <luciaclark@...>wrote:

      >
      >
      > Nice! You are my new best friend
      > Thanks
      > Lucia
      >
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: Apicius@yahoogroups.com <Apicius%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
      > Apicius@yahoogroups.com <Apicius%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
      > Freydis the Good
      > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:34 PM
      > To: Apicius@yahoogroups.com <Apicius%40yahoogroups.com>
      > Subject: Re: [Apicius] First Roman Cookbooks to Purchase?
      >
      > Oh, Oh, OH!!! I've got a source for Lovage and it is quite INEXPENSIVE!!!
      >
      > http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/
      >
      > A 1 POUND bag of dried lovage leaf today is $17 USD. 1 Pound of the root is
      > $12 USD.
      >
      > SMILES!!
      > Freydis
      >
      > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Lucia Clark
      > <luciaclark@... <luciaclark%40luciadentice.com>>wrote:
      >
      > >
      > >
      > > Oooooh.. Roman stores were also civilized.. In any case, any supermarket
      > > has
      > > most of the ingredients you need. As for spices, if you do not find them
      > in
      > > a well stocked supermarket you will find them in middle-eastern or Indian
      > > specialty stores (also very civilized). Unusual grains like farro you can
      > > find in Italian specialty stores. Let's not forget the internet, you can
      > > order quite a few things online. A couple of spices you will have to grow
      > > yourself, like rue and lovage, or find substitutions. A good substitution
      > > for garum is anchovy paste. Or. Like Apicius himself said, just add or
      > omit
      > > according to your taste. Justinus will be able to pin point the exact
      > quote
      > > and give to you in Latin.
      > >
      > > Lucia
      > >
      > > _____
      > >
      > > From: Apicius@yahoogroups.com <Apicius%40yahoogroups.com> <Apicius%
      > 40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
      > > Apicius@yahoogroups.com <Apicius%40yahoogroups.com> <Apicius%
      > 40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
      > > goliathrix@... <goliathrix%40hotmail.com> <goliathrix%
      > 40hotmail.com>
      >
      > > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 12:15 PM
      > > To: Apicius@yahoogroups.com <Apicius%40yahoogroups.com> <Apicius%
      > 40yahoogroups.com>
      >
      > > Subject: Re: [Apicius] First Roman Cookbooks to Purchase?
      > >
      > > Thank you for the reply! I am looking for historical accuracy just a book
      > > that is an easy read. The few Roman cookbooks that I have looked over
      > some
      > > of the ingredients have been things that you can't find in civilized
      > > grocery
      > > stores.
      > >
      > > Joshua
      > >
      > > Optio
      > > Legio VI F
      > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
      > >
      > > -----Original Message-----
      > > From: "coivinix" <pncmcdermott@
      > <mailto:pncmcdermott%40comcast.net <pncmcdermott%2540comcast.net>
      > <pncmcdermott%2540comcast.net>
      > > >
      > > comcast.net>
      > > Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:08:03
      > > To: <Apicius@yahoogroups
      > <mailto:Apicius%40yahoogroups.com <Apicius%2540yahoogroups.com><Apicius%
      > 2540yahoogroups.com>>
      > > .com>
      > > Subject: [Apicius] First Roman Cookbooks to Purchase?
      > >
      > > COIVINIX DONATO SAL P D
      > > Welcome! While the group seems a bit moribund at present, there's much in
      > > the archives to keep you going until the chatter starts up again.
      > >
      > > I'm sure everyone will have their own favorites, but here are the
      > > ones_I_would direct you to:
      > >
      > > First and foremost, the admirable "practical" end of our fellow-listmate
      > > Sally Grainger's new translation of APICIVS (done with her husband,
      > > Christopher Groocock) COOKING APICIVS:
      > >
      > > <http://www.amazon
      > > <
      > >
      > http://www.amazon.com/Cooking-Apicius-Roman-Recipes-Today/dp/1903018447/ref
      > > =sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1259856283&sr=1-1>
      > >
      > >
      >
      > com/Cooking-Apicius-Roman-Recipes-Today/dp/1903018447/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=b
      > > ooks&qid=1259856283&sr=1-1>
      > >
      > > This is excellent scholarship yoked to practical cookery and intelligent
      > > supposition. You will not do better--the only problem is that it is SO
      > > SHORT. But perhaps Sally will find time to enlarge :>)
      > >
      > > You can buy both books together at a special price from the importer
      > here:
      > >
      > > <http://www.oxbowboo <http://www.oxbowbooks.com/bookinfo.cfm/ID/61510>
      > > ks.com/bookinfo.cfm/ID/61510>
      > >
      > > An earlier effort (with another listmate, Andrew Dalby) is THE CLASSICAL
      > > COOKBOOK:
      > >
      > > <http://www.amazon
      > > <
      > >
      > http://www.amazon.com/Classical-Cookbook-Andrew-Dalby/dp/071412222X/ref=sr_
      > > 1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1259856244&sr=1-1>
      > >
      > >
      >
      > com/Classical-Cookbook-Andrew-Dalby/dp/071412222X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books
      > > &qid=1259856244&sr=1-1>
      > >
      > > Although it's aging, there is still much to like in Ilaria Gozzini
      > > Giacosa's
      > > A TASTE OF ANCIENT ROME:
      > >
      > > <http://www.amazon
      > > <
      > >
      > http://www.amazon.com/Taste-Ancient-Ilaria-Gozzini-Giacosa/dp/0226290328/re
      > > f=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1259856141&sr=8-1>
      > >
      > >
      >
      > com/Taste-Ancient-Ilaria-Gozzini-Giacosa/dp/0226290328/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=
      > > books&qid=1259856141&sr=8-1>
      > >
      > > And then there's Mark Grant's ROMAN COOKERY; a strong point of this one
      > is
      > > that it concentrates on more "every-day" food; a somewhat weaker point is
      > > that, while the author is a very serious scholar....the redactions he
      > > provides are a bit idiosyncratic at times and (which is perhaps exactly
      > > what
      > > you are looking for?) slanted to modern ease, rather than historical
      > > accuracy. But--read with care--there is much here that is not covered
      > > elsewhere:
      > >
      > > <http://www.amazon
      > > <
      > >
      > http://www.amazon.com/Roman-Cookery-Ancient-Recipes-Kitchens/dp/1897959605/
      > > ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_b>
      > >
      > >
      >
      > com/Roman-Cookery-Ancient-Recipes-Kitchens/dp/1897959605/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_b
      > > >
      > >
      > > Hopefully you'll find something here which will suit you exactly. In the
      > > best of all worlds, you'll eventually have them all on your bookshelf.
      > >
      > > BONA FORTVNA
      > >
      > > COIVINIX
      > >
      > > --- In Apicius@yahoogroups
      > <mailto:Apicius%40yahoogroups.com <Apicius%2540yahoogroups.com><Apicius%
      > 2540yahoogroups.com>>
      >
      > > .com,
      > > "jbd_29349" <goliathrix@...> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Ave Citizens!
      > > >
      > > > I hope that I am not out of line by starting a topic to just introduce
      > > myself. My name is Joshua Davis I live in Spartanburg, South Carolina. I
      > am
      > > a member and the Optio of Legio VI FFC based out of Charleston, South
      > > Carolina.
      > > >
      > > > I found this site going through some websites I haven't been to in a
      > > while
      > > and I am glad I did. I have been biten by the cooking bug here recently
      > and
      > > being a Roman re-enactor I would like to try authentic Roman dishes.
      > > >
      > > > My first question is this: where can I find a good Roman cookbook. Now
      > my
      > > definition of a good Roman cookbook is this, will give you substitutes
      > for
      > > things that you can't find in even a "fancy" grocery store. Also written
      > by
      > > someone that has reproduced these dishes and has applied modern cooking
      > > techniques and or terms. This one is a bonus but not really necessary,
      > > dates
      > > for when these dishes were common/created.
      > > >
      > > > Joshua Davis
      > > > aka
      > > > Marivs Minivs Donatvs
      > > > Optio Centvriae
      > > > Legio VI FFC, Cohors I
      > >
      > > >
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