72393Re: ABH YHWH & Leviathan Twin Serpents?
- Jan 30, 2014
Elohim is not a name but a title. Yahweh and El are originally two separate gods. El was the god of the northern 10 tribes of Israel. Yahweh or yhwh, originally yhw, comes from the desert regions south east of Judah. El was a northwest Semitic god who was brought by the Arameans who migrated to northern Palestine. Thus, there were three cultural variations on how El was portrayed by the Arameans, the Canaanites and finally the Israelites. But all three are located in North eastern regions of the Fertile Crescent. Yahwism on the other hand came out of the southeastern deserts and migrated noryhwesterly. El migrated from Mesopotamia to Aram and the Canaanites on the coast from Ugarit and Tyre and Sidon. I discuss other differences between the gods El and Yahweh in an essay posted at the Biblical Heritage site. Google El, god of Israel-Yahweh, god of Judah and you will find the article.
Elohim was the term favored by the Egyptians who went over to Hebrew/Shasu Yahwism, the leader being the Egyptian Moshe or Moses. These converts became the Levites and Moses was their founder and patriarch as Jacob was the Aramean patriarch of Israel proper that become the kingdom of Israel and as Abram was the patriarch of Southern or Judean Yahwism that became the kingdom of Judah.
El, Jacob, kingdom of Israel
Yahweh, Abram, kingdom of Judah
Elohim, Moses, Levites in both Israel and Judah.
This is essential information if one wishes to understand these ancient Palestinian religions that later became fused and where El, Yahweh and Elohim were identified as one deity.
From: Adebunmi lambo <aaeternity@...>;
To: AncientBibleHistory@yahoogroups.com <AncientBibleHistory@yahoogroups.com>;
Subject: Re: ABH YHWH & Leviathan Twin Serpents?
Sent: Fri, Jan 31, 2014 1:01:42 AMThank you all so much, so is Yhwh and Elohiym different gods?Carpe diem,
From: Lloyd Barre <lmbarre@...>
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: ABH YHWH & Leviathan Twin Serpents?
That is not correct. Because of the LXX, the Tetragrammaton, was translated in Greek as Kurios or "Lord." This was because when the LXX was made, 250-150 BCE, it was customary to not say "Yahweh." This tradition still persists in most translations of the Bible. An exception is The Jerusalem and New Jerusalem Bible. Otherwise LORD is used as a translation for the Tetragrammaton, yhwh. Note that yhwh does not mean, "lord" or anything like it. Although debated, the late leading Ametican Semitic scholar, Frank Cross of Harvard, rightly pointed out thatvYahweh's official name that was associated with the Ark is actually Yahweh Sabaoth, the long and full name which occurs many times, especially in prophetic literature. "Yahweh" ocurring alone is thus a shortening of the full, official, "Yahweh Sabaoth.". Also, yhwh is a C-stem or Hiphil of the verb hyh/hwh. It is the verb meaning, "to be or become.". It literally means "he caused to be/become.". But yhwh alone has no object stated unless one knows the long form yhwh sb't. So Yahweh's old, official name means, "he causes to be/become armies." Sabaoth is the object of the causitive verb. Sabaoth can mean either or both terrestrial or celestial armies. Originally, it referred to terrestial forces which yhwh mustered when he led his Shasu armies seated in the ark. This is why the old song of the divine warrior in Exodus 15 states, "Yahweh is a man of war//that's what his name means!" (Exod 15:3). I discuss this old form if Kenite/Shasu/desert!Bedouin!Midianite Yahwism in my internet article, "El, god of Israel--Yahweh, god of Judah." But there is still an earlier form of Yahwism which we know from the Soleb inscription in Egypt. Here, the oldest name of this Shasu/Hebrew god is not a Tetrgrammaton but a Trigrammaton, yhw. This name is made up of the three Matte Lexiones of the Hebrew language. A Mater is a consonant used as a vowel. In all West Semitic languages, these Matters are used to distinguish three vowel classes that are basic to the west Semitic verbal system. y=i-class, h=a-class and w=u-class. This god's name had no consonants and was "i a w." It was pronounced "we aa oo." This original Trigrammaton name from the 16th century BCE is attested in the DDS and in the Elephantine papri. In Greek it is iota-alpha-omega or iaw. This not the warrior god of the Tetragramnaton. The yahwe of the Trigrammaton is a god name based upon the Semitic verbal system of three vowels. It is a very abstract name that purposely lacked consonants and was therefore "odd" and unlike normal words which all have consonants. As such. it was akin to animal sounds who do not use consonants. I think that language was invented when humans combined animal like vowels with consonants. So the Trigrammaton reaches back to animal, vowel only sounds. Note this ditty: "Old McDonald had a farm, e i e i o." Thus, the Trigrammaton is very primitive and highly linguistic in origin and in character.LM BarreOn Jan 30, 2014 9:51 AM, <gmrf@...> wrote:Carpe:
Whenever you see the name Lord in the AKJ, the word in Hebrew is Yhwh. Whenever you see the name God, the word is usually Elohyim. The author of this book did not hyphenate the name although the Yhwh & Elohyim can be substituted for one another. However the authors of Genesis, Exodus Deuteronomy, 1 & 11 Chronicles, Ezra, Psalms, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Amos etc. did present Yhwh and Elohiym as one name, Yhwh-Elohyim, which is translated in the AKJ as Lord God. The oldest attestation of this double name is in the Song of Deborah, Jdg 5:3. Many scholars consider the Song of Deborah as the most ancient Biblical text, which may date to the 12th Century BCE. However, in the context of this verse, the phrase Yhwh Elohyim is understood to mean the Lord, the God rather than the single name Lord God:
"Hear this, you kings! Listen, you rulers! I, even I, will sing to the Lord; I will praise the Lord, the God of Israel, in song.
The books that do contain the hyphenated name, Yhwh Elohim, date from between the 6th and 2nd centuries BCE. All of these books were been edited by the Masoretes (and their predecessors) who compiled and standardized the texts on which the Protestants Bibles are based. The Masoretes were Arabic speaking Jews who lived under the auspices of the Arab Caliphates between the 5th and 9th Centuries CE. So, one must filter through the edited version and refer to more ancient texts to find the oldest date in which Yhwh Elohyim became one name. The Dead Sea Scrolls only date between the 3rd and 1st Centuries BCE, so they are not much help in this endeavor.
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