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Re: [AFA Ferret] Re: Thinking about getting a Ferret

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  • Debby
    Cindy, you know these kids also thrive on being safe and loved and I think that added to him rebounding so quickly...he doesn t over-eat just enough until he
    Message 1 of 98 , Jun 30, 2011
      Cindy, you know these kids also thrive on being safe and loved and I think that added to him rebounding so quickly...he doesn't over-eat just enough until he is full then stops...he is with Julie now and dooking up a storm a very happy little boy....he is a surviver as so many of these little ones are...Bless all our rescurers that truely care..

      Hugs, Debby(Memaw and her traveling zoo)

      --- On Thu, 6/30/11, ferretmomcindy <ferretmom23@...> wrote:

      > From: ferretmomcindy <ferretmom23@...>
      > Subject: [AFA Ferret] Re: Thinking about getting a Ferret
      > To: AmericanFerretAssociation@yahoogroups.com
      > Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011, 12:16 PM
      > 14oz in a week?!  Getting his
      > food in industrial strength containers from ACME?! Lol 
      > Seriously, he's probably scared it may be awhile before he
      > gets another meal.  I've had them come in and eat that
      > way.  It's pitiful:(  But, they need the extra
      > weight and they slow down once they realize there will
      > always be food.  Sounds like he's found a place where
      > he's happy:)  Those are dangerous words, "one more".
      > Lol  ferretmomCindy

      [Extra quoting deleted by moderator.  --Dav]
    • Angela
      Jane, I m not sure if you realize it, but this group has many, many ferret shelter operators here.  They are a GREAT source of information, having seen loads
      Message 98 of 98 , Jul 7, 2011
        I'm not sure if you realize it, but this group has many, many ferret shelter operators here.  They are a GREAT source of information, having seen loads of ferrets brought to them, most with horrible medical conditions.  I'm not a shelter, but out of the 6 I have right now, I've run up almost $4K in vet bills since January 2011 alone.  I lost 3 of them last year to various issues, mostly cancer related, and that vet bill would blow your mind.  Almost a brand new car!!  I guess what I'm saying is, ferrets have such incredible medical needs, and they need to be seen IMMEDIATELY when things go wrong.  Wait and hour or two, and your ferret dies a horrible death.  Granted, some go gentle into the night while sleeping, but that's rare rather than normal.  True ferret lovers, whether personal owners or shelters, always try to plan for this to avoid it.  Your attitude of giving them a home and trying not to be attached to them when they pass is simply not something that most folks in the ferret community understand. I'm not saying you're right or wrong, simply trying to explain why so many other passionately responded to your questions.
         Our hearts bleed when we loose fuzzies....I still hurt thinking of my three from last year.  Each was a rescue, with their own personality, their own issues, and each one wormed their way into my heart and took a piece of it when they left.....Let me run this article by you, from FB, (it talks about dogs, but insert ferret just as easily) and if you aren't absolutely bawling by the end, then I say "No", don't adopt a ferret....
        This piece was written by a shelter director and posted on Craigslist in the Pets for Sale section. It is the sad truth about what happens to animals who are surrendered to shelters by their owners. Everyone assumes that they will just get adopted by a loving family who DOES have time, who DOES decide to not move somewhere that doesn't allow pets, who DOES want to pay for their care, who DOES want them regardless of their size, shape, personality, etc, who DOES want to keep them when they have a new baby. This is simply NOT TRUE! Most owner releases are euthanized, and it is NOT a pleasant way to die.
        "Our society needs a huge "Wake-up" call. As a shelter manager, I am going to share a little insight with you all... a "view from the inside" - if you will. First off, any of you whom have surrendered a pet to a shelter or humane society should be made to work in the "back" of an animal shelter - for just ONE DAY. Maybe if you saw the life drain from those sad, lost, confused eyes, you'd stop flagging the ads on here and help these animals find homes. That puppy you just dropped off will most-likely end up in my shelter when it's no longer a cute little puppy anymore. Just so you know, there's a 90% chance that your dog will never walk out back out, once entered in to the shelter system... Purebred or not! About 25% of all of the dogs that are "owner surrenders" or "strays" that come into a shelter are purebred dogs. The most common excuses: "We're moving and can't take our dog (or cat)." Really? Where are you moving to that doesn't allow pets? Or they say "The dog got bigger than we thought it would". How big did you think a German Shepherd would get? "We don't have time for her". Really? I work a 10-12 hour day and still have time for my 6 dogs! "She's tearing up our yard". How about making her a part of your family? "We just don't want to have to stress about finding a place for her & we know she'll get adopted, she's a good dog". Odds are, your pet won't get adopted & how stressful do you think it is for your pet? Did you know... Your pet has 72 hours to find a new family from the moment you drop it off? Sometimes a little longer if the shelter isn't full and your dog/cat manages to stay completely healthy. If it sniffles, it is euthanized. Your pet will be confined to a small run/kennel in a room with other barking & crying animals. It will have to relieve itself where it eats and sleeps. It will be depressed and will cry constantly for you. If your pet is lucky, there will be enough volunteers in that day to take him/her for a walk. If not, your pet won't get any attention besides having a bowl of food slid under the kennel door and the waste sprayed out of it's pen with a high-powered hose. If your dog is big, black or any of the "Bully" breeds (pit bull, rottie, mastiff, etc) it was pretty much dead when you walked it through the front door. If your cat is scared and doesn't act friendly enough, or if it catches a cold (which most of them 'do'), it will be put to sleep. Those dogs & cats just don't get adopted. In most cases, it doesn't matter how 'sweet' or 'well behaved' they are. If your pet doesn't get adopted within it's 72 hours and the shelter is full, it will be destroyed. If the shelter isn't full and your pet is good enough, and of a desirable enough breed it may get a stay of execution, but not for long. Most dogs get very kennel protective after about a week and are destroyed for showing aggression. Even the sweetest dogs will turn in this environment. If your pet makes it over all of those hurdles chances are it will get kennel cough or an upper respiratory infection and will be destroyed because the shelter gets paid a fee to euthanize each animal and making money is better than spending money to take this animal to the vet. Here's a little euthanasia 101 for those of you that have never witnessed a perfectly healthy, scared animal being "put-down". First, your pet will be taken from its kennel on a leash. They always look like they think they are going for a walk... happy, wagging their tails... until they get to "The Room", every one of them freaks out and puts on the brakes when they get to the door. It must smell like death or they can feel the sad souls that are left in there. It's strange, but it happens with every one of them. Your dog or cat will be restrained, held down by 1 or 2 shelter workers, depending on the size and how freaked out they are. Then a shelter worker who we call a "euthanasia tech (not a vet)" finds a vein in the front leg and injects a lethal dose of the "pink stuff". Hopefully your pet doesn't panic from being restrained and jerks. I've seen the needles tear out of a leg and been covered with the resulting blood... the yelps and screams are deafening. They all don't just "go to sleep", sometimes they spasm for a while, gasp for air and defecate on themselves. You see, shelters are trying to make money to pay employee pay checks and then, there's the board of directors... who need to be paid too! Consequently, corners are cut, & we don't spend our funds to tranquilize the animal before injecting them with the lethal drug, we just put the burning lethal drug in their vein and let them suffer until dead. If it were not a business for profit, we'd do it humanely and hire a licensed vet do this procedure. That way, the animal would be sedated or tranquilized and THEN euthanized. But to do this procedure correctly would only cost more money... so we don't necessarily do what is right for the animal, we do what's expedient so we can continue to make a buck! Shelters do not have to have a vet perform their euthanasia procedures. Oftentimes, they are untrained personnel administering lethal injections. So... that employee may take 50 pokes with a needle and 3 hours to get inside the vein. In the end, your pet's corpse will be stacked like firewood in a large freezer, usually in the back of the building with all of the other animals that were killed. There they will sit until being picked up like garbage. What happens next? Cremated? Taken to the dump? Rendered into pet food? Or used for schools to dissect and experiment on? You'll never know and it probably won't even cross your mind. After all, it was just an animal and you can always buy another one, right?! I hope that those of you who still have a beating heart and have read this are bawling your eyes out and can't get the pictures out of your head. I deal with this everyday. I hate my job, I hate that it exists & I hate that it will always be there unless you people make changes and start educating yourselves, your children, the public. Do the research, do your homework, and know exactly what you are getting into before getting a pet. These shelters and humane societies exist because people just do not care about animals anymore. Animals were not intended to be disposable but somehow that is what they've become. For those of you that care--- please repost this to at least one other Craigslist in another City/State. Let's see if we can get this all around."
        My apologies to the ferret lovers, I know this hit you in your hearts, and many are wiping tears as we speak.  How many ferrets are euthanized this way...and God knows, we all know how hard it is to find a vein in a ferret....what horrible ways do they have to put these little ones down??  My Abby-Dabby squeels and screams to heaven just getting her boosters for CDV - can't imagine what she'd do if she were put to sleep!!!!  I was there to hold and comfort here while she got her shots, but what would happen if I wasn't there???  (BTW, Abby was found in a snow bank the day before we had a blizzard here in CT....abandoned...like too many others....)
        Jane, sweetie, this is why there ARE  ferret shelters.   Too many folks who don't take everything under advisement when they buy or adopt.  So the fur babies end up in shelters, like mine here in CT that just contracted distemper....so many sweet little ones that might have found a home, but didn't because their lives were cut short through no fault of their own.  Some idiot owner that didn't vaccinate their dog, and the ferret they gave to the shelter brought it along.....so sad.
        We're just trying to make sure you aren't one of those folks that bring your ferret to a shelter when you realize they simply aren't for you and your family.  Ferrets are very similar to dogs, in the fact that they LOVE to be with you...ok, they don't wag their tags and their tongues don't hang out, but the first time you get "ferret kisses", you'll know what I'm talking about.  My 6 have a cage in my living room that rivals the size of my couch!  And they come out any time they ask...and yes, they ASK!!  Ferrets are smart, they can be trained, they can walk on a leash, come when you call, it depends on what you want. It depends on how much they love you.  Notice I said "how much they love you", NOT how much you love them.  You EARN the respect and love of a ferret.  In that respect, ferrets can be very much like cats (and I've got a few of those too).
        Jane, you've taken a beating here on AFA, and if you're still determined to adopt (NOT buy!!) then I say go for it.  We'll be here for you for every question, every problem, even those middle-of-the-night calls when one of yours is sick (just find that 24-hour specialist we talked about earlier first)....after all, we're all about the ferrets here!!!!  Good luck hun!
        ~Angela in CT

        From: dav_and_frances_vandenbroucke <davanden@...>
        To: AmericanFerretAssociation@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:21 AM
        Subject: [AFA Ferret] Re: Thinking about getting a Ferret


        --- In AmericanFerretAssociation@yahoogroups.com, "ferretmomcindy" <ferretmom23@...> wrote:

        >>The important aspect being overlooked here is experienced ferret owner and never having owned a ferret. All the reading in the world cannot teach the value of experience, especially in a matter of days, but it can give a false sense of preparedness and conscientious ferret owners should not feed that.<<

        I don't understand what you're getting at. So far, this has been a very healthy conversation. It illustrates that experienced ferret owners do a lot of different things, and they all seem to work out, in their individual situations. Jane seems to have a good head on her shoulders and will recognize soon enough when something isn't working.

        Dav Vandenbroucke
        davanden at cox dot net

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