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  • tpanayiotou
    Volunteer Jon Abel banned from NDSU for Stanley Meyers lab research After spending 15 months as a volunteer doing research at North Dakota State University
    Message 1 of 16 , Jul 3, 2012
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      Volunteer Jon Abel banned from NDSU for Stanley Meyers lab research
      After spending 15 months as a volunteer doing research at North Dakota State University (NDSU), seeking to replicate the work of the late Stanley Meyer, as well as the MEG, Jon Abel was banned from the campus.

      He speculates that it has to with the university's being sponsored by the oil fracking industry.


      by Sterling D. Allan
      Pure Energy Systems News

      On June 16, I received an application from Jon Abel, who was wanting to join the B-Hex discussion list.

      His closing comment caught my attention: "I was banned permanently from NDSU for replicating the Stan Meyer Water Fuel Cell."

      For those of you who might not be familiar with Stanley Meyer, he is alleged to have developed a technology that enabled a vehicle to run on nothing but water.

      I asked Jon if he wouldn't mind telling us more about what happened, and letting us publish it at PESN.


      In closing, he notes: "NDSU gets tax revenue money from the from the ND oil (fracking) industry, and this likely started a conflict of interest that they were unwilling to fix."

      I tried contacting David Wells and Ray Boyer of NDSU via phone and email to get NDSU's position regarding what Jon has described here, but so far, neither of them have responded.

      "No comment" is indeed the official stance I received from the General Counsel's office when I persisted further a day after we ran this story. "This individual's banning from campus had nothing to do with research they were doing, and that's all we're going to comment." (Conversation recording on file, but not linked here because I neglected to inform him that the call was being recorded.)

      If their reason is around his intended use of a Taser as a power source, it seems to me that they are off-the-chart hypocritical and hypersensitive. Jon's intended use is what I would call resourcefulness and has nothing to do with criminality or reckless danger. With proper mentoring oversight, it could have been a great way to avoid a very expensive alternative. The police in this nation use Taser's like they are the latest fad, with nary a thought about its dangers to the victims; yet when a civilian seeks to use one for research purposes having nothing to do with its intended use, the establishment gets all worked up. That is hypocrisy and a double standard.

      The following is Jon Abel's story:

      http://pesn.com/2012/06/18/9602112_Volunteer_Jon_Abel_banned_from_NDSU_for_Stanley_Meyers_lab_research/
    • Dr. Fombong
      FREE ENERGY IS A REALITY Message from the Galactic Federation of Light As channeled through Greg Giles – May 28, 2012 Free Energy Zones Free energy zones
      Message 2 of 16 , Jul 3, 2012
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        FREE ENERGY IS A REALITY

        Message from the Galactic Federation of Light

        As channeled through Greg Giles – May 28, 2012


        Free Energy Zones

        Free energy zones will be areas of designation that are provided to supply clean and free, without charge or cost, energy to those in these areas willing to participate in these projects.

        What we would like to do is put aside your current means of supplying your households with energy and instal a new technology that will better improve the efficiency and the supply of clean energy into your home.

        Read entire article on;   http://the2012scenario.com/2012/05/message-from-the-galactic-federation-of-light-may-28-2012/



        --- On Tue, 7/3/12, tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...> wrote:

        From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...>
        Subject: [All-E] Alternatives will not be tollerated!!!
        To: All-Energy@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 6:17 AM

         

        Volunteer Jon Abel banned from NDSU for Stanley Meyers lab research
        After spending 15 months as a volunteer doing research at North Dakota State University (NDSU), seeking to replicate the work of the late Stanley Meyer, as well as the MEG, Jon Abel was banned from the campus.

        He speculates that it has to with the university's being sponsored by the oil fracking industry.

        by Sterling D. Allan
        Pure Energy Systems News

        On June 16, I received an application from Jon Abel, who was wanting to join the B-Hex discussion list.

        His closing comment caught my attention: "I was banned permanently from NDSU for replicating the Stan Meyer Water Fuel Cell."

        For those of you who might not be familiar with Stanley Meyer, he is alleged to have developed a technology that enabled a vehicle to run on nothing but water.

        I asked Jon if he wouldn't mind telling us more about what happened, and letting us publish it at PESN.


        In closing, he notes: "NDSU gets tax revenue money from the from the ND oil (fracking) industry, and this likely started a conflict of interest that they were unwilling to fix."

        I tried contacting David Wells and Ray Boyer of NDSU via phone and email to get NDSU's position regarding what Jon has described here, but so far, neither of them have responded.

        "No comment" is indeed the official stance I received from the General Counsel's office when I persisted further a day after we ran this story. "This individual's banning from campus had nothing to do with research they were doing, and that's all we're going to comment." (Conversation recording on file, but not linked here because I neglected to inform him that the call was being recorded.)

        If their reason is around his intended use of a Taser as a power source, it seems to me that they are off-the-chart hypocritical and hypersensitive. Jon's intended use is what I would call resourcefulness and has nothing to do with criminality or reckless danger. With proper mentoring oversight, it could have been a great way to avoid a very expensive alternative. The police in this nation use Taser's like they are the latest fad, with nary a thought about its dangers to the victims; yet when a civilian seeks to use one for research purposes having nothing to do with its intended use, the establishment gets all worked up. That is hypocrisy and a double standard.

        The following is Jon Abel's story:

        http://pesn.com/2012/06/18/9602112_Volunteer_Jon_Abel_banned_from_NDSU_for_Stanley_Meyers_lab_research/

      • tpanayiotou
        Alas, this link seems very suspicious as it has a lot of rubbish mixed with Truths and half-truths ....a real time-waster for serious seekers of Truth.
        Message 3 of 16 , Jul 6, 2012
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          Alas, this link seems very suspicious as it has a lot of rubbish mixed with Truths and half-truths ....a real time-waster for serious seekers of Truth. Especially all that crap about Obama being some sort of God-send evolved person, if anything the opposite is true about the lying fox, not that I think the other mix of Hyenas in the Political, Banking, Corporate bunch of Criminal Racketeers are any better!! This smacks of disinformation and volume blasting to wear peoples brains into disinterest and apathy ....or putting it more succinctly to dull peoples brains back to the TV couch !



          --- In All-Energy@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@...> wrote:
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          > FREE ENERGY IS A REALITY
          >
          > Message from the Galactic Federation of Light
          > As channeled through Greg Giles â€" May 28, 2012
          > Free Energy Zones
          > Free energy zones will be areas of designation that are provided to
          > supply clean and free, without charge or cost, energy to those in these
          > areas willing to participate in these projects.
          > What we would like to do is put aside your current means of supplying
          > your households with energy and instal a new technology that will
          > better improve the efficiency and the supply of clean energy into your
          > home.Read entire article on;   http://the2012scenario.com/2012/05/message-from-the-galactic-federation-of-light-may-28-2012/
          >
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          > --- On Tue, 7/3/12, tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...> wrote:
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          > From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...>
          > Subject: [All-E] Alternatives will not be tollerated!!!
          > To: All-Energy@yahoogroups.com
          > Date: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 6:17 AM
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          > Volunteer Jon Abel banned from NDSU for Stanley Meyers lab research
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          > After spending 15 months as a volunteer doing research at North Dakota State University (NDSU), seeking to replicate the work of the late Stanley Meyer, as well as the MEG, Jon Abel was banned from the campus.
          >
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          > He speculates that it has to with the university's being sponsored by the oil fracking industry.
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          > by Sterling D. Allan
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          > Pure Energy Systems News
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          > On June 16, I received an application from Jon Abel, who was wanting to join the B-Hex discussion list.
          >
          >
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          > His closing comment caught my attention: "I was banned permanently from NDSU for replicating the Stan Meyer Water Fuel Cell."
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          > For those of you who might not be familiar with Stanley Meyer, he is alleged to have developed a technology that enabled a vehicle to run on nothing but water.
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          > I asked Jon if he wouldn't mind telling us more about what happened, and letting us publish it at PESN.
          >
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          > In closing, he notes: "NDSU gets tax revenue money from the from the ND oil (fracking) industry, and this likely started a conflict of interest that they were unwilling to fix."
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          > I tried contacting David Wells and Ray Boyer of NDSU via phone and email to get NDSU's position regarding what Jon has described here, but so far, neither of them have responded.
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          > "No comment" is indeed the official stance I received from the General Counsel's office when I persisted further a day after we ran this story. "This individual's banning from campus had nothing to do with research they were doing, and that's all we're going to comment." (Conversation recording on file, but not linked here because I neglected to inform him that the call was being recorded.)
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          > If their reason is around his intended use of a Taser as a power source, it seems to me that they are off-the-chart hypocritical and hypersensitive. Jon's intended use is what I would call resourcefulness and has nothing to do with criminality or reckless danger. With proper mentoring oversight, it could have been a great way to avoid a very expensive alternative. The police in this nation use Taser's like they are the latest fad, with nary a thought about its dangers to the victims; yet when a civilian seeks to use one for research purposes having nothing to do with its intended use, the establishment gets all worked up. That is hypocrisy and a double standard.
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          > The following is Jon Abel's story:
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          > http://pesn.com/2012/06/18/9602112_Volunteer_Jon_Abel_banned_from_NDSU_for_Stanley_Meyers_lab_research/
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        • Dr. Fombong
          Dear Tpanayiotou,Sure what you say is true from your point of view.No one is charged with believing the information.Truth is a very relative matter, you
          Message 4 of 16 , Jul 13, 2012
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            Dear Tpanayiotou,
            Sure what you say is true from your point of view.
            No one is charged with believing the information.
            Truth is a very relative matter, you know
            Relative time, location, subject,.... 
            But "according to your faith be it unto you"
            Even when conduction sophisticated experiments wit sub atomic particles, you can decide the outcome of the experiment.
            So it's up to you.
            Or any one else.
            The weed and the wheat: its time for harvest.

            --- On Fri, 7/6/12, tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...> wrote:

            From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...>
            Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
            To: All-Energy@yahoogroups.com
            Date: Friday, July 6, 2012, 4:37 AM

             

            Alas, this link seems very suspicious as it has a lot of rubbish mixed with Truths and half-truths ....a real time-waster for serious seekers of Truth. Especially all that crap about Obama being some sort of God-send evolved person, if anything the opposite is true about the lying fox, not that I think the other mix of Hyenas in the Political, Banking, Corporate bunch of Criminal Racketeers are any better!! This smacks of disinformation and volume blasting to wear peoples brains into disinterest and apathy ....or putting it more succinctly to dull peoples brains back to the TV couch !

            --- In All-Energy@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@...> wrote:
            >
            > FREE ENERGY IS A REALITY
            >
            > Message from the Galactic Federation of Light
            > As channeled through Greg Giles â€" May 28, 2012
            > Free Energy Zones
            > Free energy zones will be areas of designation that are provided to
            > supply clean and free, without charge or cost, energy to those in these
            > areas willing to participate in these projects.
            > What we would like to do is put aside your current means of supplying
            > your households with energy and instal a new technology that will
            > better improve the efficiency and the supply of clean energy into your
            > home.Read entire article on;   http://the2012scenario.com/2012/05/message-from-the-galactic-federation-of-light-may-28-2012/
            >
            >
            > --- On Tue, 7/3/12, tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...> wrote:
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            > From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...>
            > Subject: [All-E] Alternatives will not be tollerated!!!
            > To: All-Energy@yahoogroups.com
            > Date: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 6:17 AM
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            > After spending 15 months as a volunteer doing research at North Dakota State University (NDSU), seeking to replicate the work of the late Stanley Meyer, as well as the MEG, Jon Abel was banned from the campus.
            >
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            > He speculates that it has to with the university's being sponsored by the oil fracking industry.
            >
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            > by Sterling D. Allan
            >
            > Pure Energy Systems News
            >
            >
            >
            > On June 16, I received an application from Jon Abel, who was wanting to join the B-Hex discussion list.
            >
            >
            >
            > His closing comment caught my attention: "I was banned permanently from NDSU for replicating the Stan Meyer Water Fuel Cell."
            >
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            > For those of you who might not be familiar with Stanley Meyer, he is alleged to have developed a technology that enabled a vehicle to run on nothing but water.
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            > I asked Jon if he wouldn't mind telling us more about what happened, and letting us publish it at PESN.
            >
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            > In closing, he notes: "NDSU gets tax revenue money from the from the ND oil (fracking) industry, and this likely started a conflict of interest that they were unwilling to fix."
            >
            >
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            > I tried contacting David Wells and Ray Boyer of NDSU via phone and email to get NDSU's position regarding what Jon has described here, but so far, neither of them have responded.
            >
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            >
            > "No comment" is indeed the official stance I received from the General Counsel's office when I persisted further a day after we ran this story. "This individual's banning from campus had nothing to do with research they were doing, and that's all we're going to comment." (Conversation recording on file, but not linked here because I neglected to inform him that the call was being recorded.)
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            > If their reason is around his intended use of a Taser as a power source, it seems to me that they are off-the-chart hypocritical and hypersensitive. Jon's intended use is what I would call resourcefulness and has nothing to do with criminality or reckless danger. With proper mentoring oversight, it could have been a great way to avoid a very expensive alternative. The police in this nation use Taser's like they are the latest fad, with nary a thought about its dangers to the victims; yet when a civilian seeks to use one for research purposes having nothing to do with its intended use, the establishment gets all worked up. That is hypocrisy and a double standard.
            >
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            > The following is Jon Abel's story:
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            > http://pesn.com/2012/06/18/9602112_Volunteer_Jon_Abel_banned_from_NDSU_for_Stanley_Meyers_lab_research/
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          • tpanayiotou
            Dear Dr. Fombong, if that is your real title or just one you have decided to tag on for appearances ! Some Truths are Primordial and cannot be changed or
            Message 5 of 16 , Jul 14, 2012
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              Dear Dr. Fombong, if that is your real title or just one you have decided to tag on for appearances !

              Some Truths are Primordial and cannot be changed or debated about by Humans or anyone else and around these is a sea of flexibility.

              Our task as Scientists is to find and identify these eternal Truths and work around their parameters, be they material, emotional , mental or Spirirtual. What may seem as grey area to us today may just be a distortion or lack of perception due to lack of growth.

              When we have classes with hungry students we try to feed them only known quantities so that they acquire the tools to expand their awareness to be open to further enlightenement. We don't feed them indiscriminately and overload their systems so that they get too exhausted to work and ask further questions.

              The Christain, Muslims, Hindus and every organised clan of Beings have taken Truths and twisted them to fit their agenda for Power and control citing the very logic you espouse to hide behind.



              --- In All-Energy@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@...> wrote:
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              > Dear Tpanayiotou,Sure what you say is true from your point of view.No one is charged with believing the information.Truth is a very relative matter, you knowRelative time, location, subject,.... But "according to your faith be it unto you"Even when conduction sophisticated experiments wit sub atomic particles, you can decide the outcome of the experiment.So it's up to you.Or any one else.The weed and the wheat: its time for harvest.
              > --- On Fri, 7/6/12, tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...> wrote:
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              > From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...>
              > Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
              > To: All-Energy@yahoogroups.com
              > Date: Friday, July 6, 2012, 4:37 AM
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              > Alas, this link seems very suspicious as it has a lot of rubbish mixed with Truths and half-truths ....a real time-waster for serious seekers of Truth. Especially all that crap about Obama being some sort of God-send evolved person, if anything the opposite is true about the lying fox, not that I think the other mix of Hyenas in the Political, Banking, Corporate bunch of Criminal Racketeers are any better!! This smacks of disinformation and volume blasting to wear peoples brains into disinterest and apathy ....or putting it more succinctly to dull peoples brains back to the TV couch !
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              > --- In All-Energy@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@> wrote:
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              > > FREE ENERGY IS A REALITY
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              > > Message from the Galactic Federation of Light
              >
              > > As channeled through Greg Giles â€" May 28, 2012
              >
              > > Free Energy Zones
              >
              > > Free energy zones will be areas of designation that are provided to
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              > > supply clean and free, without charge or cost, energy to those in these
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              > > areas willing to participate in these projects.
              >
              > > What we would like to do is put aside your current means of supplying
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              > > your households with energy and instal a new technology that will
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              > > better improve the efficiency and the supply of clean energy into your
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              > > home.Read entire article on;   http://the2012scenario.com/2012/05/message-from-the-galactic-federation-of-light-may-28-2012/
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              > > Subject: [All-E] Alternatives will not be tollerated!!!
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              > > On June 16, I received an application from Jon Abel, who was wanting to join the B-Hex discussion list.
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              > > His closing comment caught my attention: "I was banned permanently from NDSU for replicating the Stan Meyer Water Fuel Cell."
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            • Dr. Fombong
              Hi Tpanayiotou, What does it matter if I am Dr. or Prof.? Please, take me for neither for that is not the question at stake. I rather be called “slave”
              Message 6 of 16 , Jul 16, 2012
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                Hi Tpanayiotou,


                What does it matter if I am Dr. or Prof.?

                Please, take me for neither for that is not the question at stake. I rather be called “slave” Fombong. If being "Doctor" is to hang unto what was hammered into me at the faculty, then I had rather forego the appellation.

                Who chooses what title I should have?
                Yeah, it's those who want me to believe and continue in outdated dogmas in the name science.


                Believe me whoever you are: science is dynamic and so is what you term truth.
                I have done research for over 30 years in the scientific discipline of energy and I have found out that a lot of things concerning developments in energy transformations have either been falsified or suppressed. It is not until about 5 years ago that I realized that what I had up to then considered as truth [with regards my engineering background] was entirely illusory.


                What do you want me to say?

                I believe in myself and I believe in free energy because I have proven it to myself and can prove it to you if you are willing. I have proof that free energy technologies have been suppressed from about a century ago to the moment.


                Free energy is not considered in the sense that you define energy in classical scientific concepts.

                It does not come from nothing, rather it comes from multiple interlaced energy forms.

                Energy is neither created nor destroyed: it is only transformed.

                Mind you, energy comes in one form by transforming another form into that which is desired.

                Our free energy sources are not Closed but rather intersecting and interacting systems.

                That is the way the universe is made: there is no closed system.

                That is where traditional science misleads you by defining energy in terms of a closed system. The closed system concept was intentionally introduced to mislead simple minds.


                Every energy resource is connected to other systems from which or to which energy flows in its myriads of forms.


                Believe it or not, I am using free energy on a daily basis.

                And you know where I Am?

                Africa.


                It does not matter what you choose to believe in.

                The truth has numerous faces. You choose yours and you will not be in error until your time come and you eyes open or turn in a different direction and you [being a judge unto yourself] exclaim: 'the truth is over there!'


                See Tpanayiotou and others, we are not here to impose our truths on you. We are not here to say that you are in error. We are only stating our perceptions and you have the right to reject, investigate or accept them on faith.


                One more thing, a few years ago I was one of the most ardent opponent of anything related to what is called “free energy” and I could then back up my opposition with “fail-proof” scientific and mathematical theories, formulae and derrivations.


                I Wish you the best.




                --- On Sat, 7/14/12, tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...> wrote:

                From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...>
                Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
                To: All-Energy@yahoogroups.com
                Date: Saturday, July 14, 2012, 4:31 AM

                 

                Dear Dr. Fombong, if that is your real title or just one you have decided to tag on for appearances !

                Some Truths are Primordial and cannot be changed or debated about by Humans or anyone else and around these is a sea of flexibility.

                Our task as Scientists is to find and identify these eternal Truths and work around their parameters, be they material, emotional , mental or Spirirtual. What may seem as grey area to us today may just be a distortion or lack of perception due to lack of growth.

                When we have classes with hungry students we try to feed them only known quantities so that they acquire the tools to expand their awareness to be open to further enlightenement. We don't feed them indiscriminately and overload their systems so that they get too exhausted to work and ask further questions.

                The Christain, Muslims, Hindus and every organised clan of Beings have taken Truths and twisted them to fit their agenda for Power and control citing the very logic you espouse to hide behind.

                --- In All-Energy@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@...> wrote:
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                > Dear Tpanayiotou,Sure what you say is true from your point of view.No one is charged with believing the information.Truth is a very relative matter, you knowRelative time, location, subject,.... But "according to your faith be it unto you"Even when conduction sophisticated experiments wit sub atomic particles, you can decide the outcome of the experiment.So it's up to you.Or any one else.The weed and the wheat: its time for harvest.
                > --- On Fri, 7/6/12, tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...> wrote:
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                > From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...>
                > Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
                > To: All-Energy@yahoogroups.com
                > Date: Friday, July 6, 2012, 4:37 AM
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                > Alas, this link seems very suspicious as it has a lot of rubbish mixed with Truths and half-truths ....a real time-waster for serious seekers of Truth. Especially all that crap about Obama being some sort of God-send evolved person, if anything the opposite is true about the lying fox, not that I think the other mix of Hyenas in the Political, Banking, Corporate bunch of Criminal Racketeers are any better!! This smacks of disinformation and volume blasting to wear peoples brains into disinterest and apathy ....or putting it more succinctly to dull peoples brains back to the TV couch !
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                > --- In All-Energy@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@> wrote:
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                > > FREE ENERGY IS A REALITY
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                > > Message from the Galactic Federation of Light
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                > > As channeled through Greg Giles â€" May 28, 2012
                >
                > > Free Energy Zones
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                > > Free energy zones will be areas of designation that are provided to
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                > > supply clean and free, without charge or cost, energy to those in these
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                > > areas willing to participate in these projects.
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                > > What we would like to do is put aside your current means of supplying
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                > > your households with energy and instal a new technology that will
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                > > better improve the efficiency and the supply of clean energy into your
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                > > home.Read entire article on;   http://the2012scenario.com/2012/05/message-from-the-galactic-federation-of-light-may-28-2012/
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                > > Subject: [All-E] Alternatives will not be tollerated!!!
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              • tpanayiotou
                OK Dr.Fombong enough said! It was Nokola Teslas birthday in July and he is one of my heroes in regards investigating Truths as opposed to making weapons and
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                  OK Dr.Fombong enough said! It was Nokola Teslas birthday in July and he is one of my heroes in regards investigating Truths as opposed to making weapons and splitting atoms ........Energy is all around us and in abundance, only the will is missing to finance how to access it and a bunch of crooks in high places sucking our finances ...if only a percentage of 700-800 Billion dollars the US military Industrial Complex uses for creating war and strife was turned to R & D the World would change over night!
                  Anyway here is a piece by stirling d.allen in full regarding the great man whose humility few could emulate...

                  ''My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength, Inspiration.
                  I have not penetrated into the secret of this core, but I know it exists.''



                  by Sterling D. Allan
                  Pure Energy Systems News

                  As mentioned the other day, on July 10, Tesla's Birthday, I'm going to be going on Coast to Coast AM to do a segment on "Tesla Today". It will be a three-hour interview with host, George Noory, beginning at 11 pm Pacific.

                  In anticipation of covering that subject, I thought I'd see if I could do an interview with someone who is at the top of my list of consultants on that topic, Karl Palsness, who I've known for about three years.

                  (P.S., later this morning, I'm also going to be interviewing another pillar along these lines, Patrick Flanagan, who I met in person in Costa Rica last year. I hope to have a write-up about that interview posted tomorrow.)

                  Karl is a gifted researcher who has been doing Tesla-related, overunity research and development full-time, with investment funds for a decade. He's working with several other people, and they have been making great progress toward not only replicating Tesla-related technologies (the really exotic stuff from the latter half of Tesla's life) but in getting them to the point of maturation that they can be brought to market, some as soon as possibly a year.

                  Karl agreed to do an interview, which we conducted on July 3, 2012 about some of the past and present research he is doing, as well as discussing Who's Who in the field of Tesla research and commercialization, and what some of the key scientific principles are.

                  As I see it, there are essentially two subdivisions of Tesla's work: what he did in the first half of his life, which has become the bedrock of modern civilization: AC polyphase power, the induction motor, radio, X-ray, neon and fluorescent lighting (just to name a few); and what he worked on in the last half of his life, which involved concepts that were so far ahead of his time that they weren't adapted, so he was shunned and ultimately died a pauper, at which point his notes were grabbed up by the US government, who seems to have implemented at least some of the technologies into various black budget projects such as HAARP, and the 1943 Philadelphia Experiment, the year Tesla died.

                  Karl was quick to point out that AC was anything but "mainstream" when Tesla first introduced it. The science establishment, headed by Edison , opposed it vigorously. And this was when Tesla was in his early twenties.

                  When I asked Karl about the fundamental principles behind the electrical work Tesla did in the latter half of his life, I was expecting a long and complex answer. But for Karl, it boils down to "asymmetric field of circuits" and a term Tesla coined: "longitudinal wave". "Single-event resonance" is also key.

                  The analogy Karl used to describe the longitudinal wave was a tsunami, whose waves can travel across the ocean at speeds exceeding 600 mph -- the speed of a jumbo jet flying over the ocean. Normal ocean waves propagate slow enough that a person can run along side one on a dock. Those are very different processes, with very different causes and results.

                  Tsunamis are usually triggered by massive land movements within the water, such as from a large earthquake or meteorite. The large displacement then propagates horizontally away, barely displacing the surface elevation until it reaches shore, where it crests and rushes inland.

                  Another example Karl cited was in sound production. It takes maybe 50 Watts equivalent of power for a person to blow a trumpet, but it takes maybe a kilowatt of power for a speaker system to reproduce the same decibel level of sound, because the speaker system uses transverse waves to manufacture the longitudinal waves. There is a longitudinal component that the speaker system doesn't directly produce, so it has to make up for it in power. This should be a clue to people in the sound reproduction industry about possible new designs that could reproduce the sound using little power.

                  Much of Tesla's latter work involved means of creating electrical longitudinal waves, through fast, abrupt change; such as through rapid spark gap discharges, or through shorting the circuit; characterizing their function, and putting them to practical use. "One of the biggest things that Tesla did was create local changes, such as a 'microbubble', or 'microvoid', which nature fills in." Tesla also played with various shapes to stimulate these effects.

                  In the case of electricity, some funky things happen in the process of creating the longitudinal wave. Energy shows up that was not fed into the system by the operator. Tesla called this "radiant energy".

                  Karl said that Tesla used asymmetric circuits that involved abrupt changes of voltage or current or both. "The first half of circuit did not match second half of circuit. For example, the first half might have a low resistance, while the second half had a high resistance." The asymmetry could also be in the number of wires, or in shape. High voltage versus high current.

                  To put it simply: you create asymmetry, and nature steps in to restore the symmetry. The objective is that the amount of energy required to establish the asymmetry is less than the amount of energy that nature provides when restoring the symmetry. A very simple example is a dam. The amount of energy required to put the dam in place, creating an asymmetry, is returned many-fold. We should remember that Tesla was the first to build a hydro-electric dam, at Niagara Falls.

                  Tesla stated: "To understand radiant energy, you should avoid electrons at all costs", and "Radiant energy circuits are void of electrons."

                  That might seem like a contradiction when talking about electricity. It certainly points to the need for some kind of mechanism to harvest that radiant energy, then transform it into the kind of electricity our devices are engineered to handle.

                  From what I understand, devices such as batteries and capacitors can absorb radiant energy; and, of course, are able to then deliver that power in the direct current manner consistent with their usual operation.

                  Karl said that in Tesla's notes from Colorado Springs , when his dome got supercharged, the ions would fly to the dome from the ionosphere. The wheelwork of nature was powering the dome."

                  "We've witnessed that [here] in Canada ," he said.

                  According to Karl, the Wardenclyffe tower "was going to be the next step in energy. It was going to take the world to the next level, wirelessly, and power the world." It wasn't just going to be a transmitter, but a receiver of Radiant energy as well.

                  Karl also speculates that the receivers of that energy were not just receivers of the signal from Wardenclyffe, but they would become receivers of radiant energy themselves.

                  "My theory is that when the Wardenclyffe signal would have been received, it would make the receiver come 'alive', becoming resonant, pumping energy from the environment locally."

                  Karl goes so far as to say that now, with the ability of modern electronics, it is possible to make that Wardenclyffe signal synthetically. The tower is actually unnecessary. A portable device can be made into a radiant energy receiver to harness that energy anywhere, whether on earth or in space. "We can make the signal locally and make the receiver come alive. After all, [even in Tesla's model,] the receiver is not receiving the energy from Wardenclyffe but from the local environment," he said by Skype today, when reviewing this story. That is the nature of the technology he and his associates are working to bring forward soon.

                  Energy is not the only application of transverse waves of this nature. Karl said, "You can send more data through longitudinal than transverse waves. A 1 terabyte line could be boosted to 1000 Tb." And those communications can be effectively instantaneous. There are also healing modalities that employ longitudinal waves of the Tesla variety. You can grow plants in darkness, as if in full sunlight.

                  In addition to some of the people working on his team, some of whom he referred to by first name, Karl listed some of the pillars in this line of research as Tom Bearden, John Bedini, Peter Lindemann, T. Henry Moray, and Stanley Meyers.

                  Karl is encouraged by how much Tesla research has taken off. "When I first got involved 10 years ago, there was very little on the Internet. It was almost virgin territory." Now the trend has gotten to the point of being "uncontainable" by the corrupt powers that be -- the same type of faction that put the kibosh on Tesla in his day. He sees a lot of action, especially in Russia , Turkey , and South Africa . He's even seen major scientific papers "backpedalling" on stances they once took against this type of science, coming closer to embracing it.

                  From his vantage point, he predicts that products along these lines will begin to appear in the marketplace for customer purchase within as few as twelve months or less. Some companies are already designing for manufacturing. Some are in pre-production, doing their testing and getting certifications.

                  We briefly discussed the fuel-free generator from South Africa as well as Ismael Aviso's technology, which seems to be a replica of Tesla's Pierce Arrow.

                  The biggest obstacle, as Karl sees it, is getting adequate funding. He bemoans the fact that the rich and famous will blow millions of dollars on yachts and frivolous parties, expensive paintings, clothing and accessories, but will act like paupers when considering financing a technology that could revolutionize the planet, making life better (including cleaner) for all of us, including them.

                  Even though the science is nearly 100 years old, its acceptance in the mainstream has yet to materialize, so it is treated as if it were junk science at best, or even snake oil. So when people with money ask their scientist friends about whether they should invest in this technology, they usually get thumbs down.

                  You thought the war of the currents (Tesla's AC vs Edison 's DC transmission of power) was bad. Tesla won that war in his day, and has been vindicated royally for more than a century. And that was over something Tesla came up with in his early 20's. He lived to 87, inventing to the end.

                  Why is it so hard to consider that if Tesla was right on that one, he was most probably also right on the other work he did? And not just a little right, but royally right. Karl added today: "This was not theory. Almost every thing he talked about was proven in his day. It was demonstrated to work. But there were people that made sure that it was not brought to market; and they went out of their way to even make Tesla seem to be a mad man."

                  Karl also remarked that a lot of this research "can be done on the cheap." So we're not talking about billions of dollars and decades of time, such as are needed for things like the Tokomak hot fusion reactor. A few millions of dollars can go very far, with much better results.

                  Karl is encouraged by the worldwide awakening that is happening, as people everywhere question the status quo and realize that the "mainstream" is controlled by a corrupt faction whose days are numbered.

                  For those interested in getting involved in Tesla research, Karl recommends the book "Secrets of Cold War Technology", which addresses the fundamental steps, how Tesla discovered these things, what he did to stumble into them, and why they impacted him, and molded him. He also recommended that you get on YouTube and see what has been posted there. And "Get back to Tesla's writings. He wrote some incredible stuff. Pick an area of research."

                  Karl and his group can be reached at modern_tesla@...

                  --- In All-Energy@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@...> wrote:
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                  > Hi Tpanayiotou,
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                  > What does it matter if I am Dr. or
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                  > Please, take me for neither for that is
                  > not the question at stake. I rather be called “slave” Fombong. If being "Doctor" is to hang unto what was hammered into me at the faculty, then I had rather forego the appellation.
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                  > Who chooses what title I should
                  > have?
                  > Yeah, it's those who want me to believe and continue in
                  > outdated dogmas in the name science.
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                  > Believe me whoever you are:
                  > science is dynamic and so is what you term truth.
                  > I have done
                  > research for over 30 years in the scientific discipline of energy and
                  > I have found out that a lot of things concerning developments in
                  > energy transformations have either been falsified or suppressed. It is not
                  > until about 5 years ago that I realized that what I had up to then
                  > considered as truth [with regards my engineering background] was
                  > entirely illusory.
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                  > What do you want me to say?
                  > I believe in myself and I believe in
                  > free energy because I have proven it to myself and can prove it to
                  > you if you are willing. I have proof that free energy technologies
                  > have been suppressed from about a century ago to the moment.
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                  > Free energy is not considered in the
                  > sense that you define energy in classical scientific concepts.
                  > It does not come from nothing, rather
                  > it comes from multiple interlaced energy forms.
                  > Energy is neither created nor
                  > destroyed: it is only transformed.
                  > Mind you, energy comes in one form by
                  > transforming another form into that which is desired.
                  > Our free energy sources are not Closed
                  > but rather intersecting and interacting systems.
                  > That is the way the universe is made:
                  > there is no closed system.
                  > That is where traditional science
                  > misleads you by defining energy in terms of a closed system. The closed system concept was intentionally introduced to mislead simple minds.
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                  > Every energy resource is connected to
                  > other systems from which or to which energy flows in its myriads of
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                  > Believe it or not, I am using free
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                  > And you know where I Am?
                  > Africa.
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                  > It does not matter what you choose to
                  > believe in.
                  > The truth has numerous faces. You
                  > choose yours and you will not be in error until your time come and
                  > you eyes open or turn in a different direction and you [being a judge unto yourself] exclaim: 'the truth is over there!'
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                  > See Tpanayiotou and others, we are not
                  > here to impose our truths on you. We are not here to say that you are
                  > in error. We are only stating our perceptions and you have the right to
                  > reject, investigate or accept them on faith.
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                  > One more thing, a few years ago I was
                  > one of the most ardent opponent of anything related to what is called
                  > “free energy” and I could then back up my opposition with
                  > “fail-proof” scientific and mathematical theories, formulae and
                  > derrivations.
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                  >
                  > I Wish you the best.
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                  > --- On Sat, 7/14/12, tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...> wrote:
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                  > From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...>
                  > Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
                  > To: All-Energy@yahoogroups.com
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                  > Some Truths are Primordial and cannot be changed or debated about by Humans or anyone else and around these is a sea of flexibility.
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                  > Our task as Scientists is to find and identify these eternal Truths and work around their parameters, be they material, emotional , mental or Spirirtual. What may seem as grey area to us today may just be a distortion or lack of perception due to lack of growth.
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                  > When we have classes with hungry students we try to feed them only known quantities so that they acquire the tools to expand their awareness to be open to further enlightenement. We don't feed them indiscriminately and overload their systems so that they get too exhausted to work and ask further questions.
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                  > The Christain, Muslims, Hindus and every organised clan of Beings have taken Truths and twisted them to fit their agenda for Power and control citing the very logic you espouse to hide behind.
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                  > --- In All-Energy@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@> wrote:
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                  > > Dear Tpanayiotou,Sure what you say is true from your point of view.No one is charged with believing the information.Truth is a very relative matter, you knowRelative time, location, subject,.... But "according to your faith be it unto you"Even when conduction sophisticated experiments wit sub atomic particles, you can decide the outcome of the experiment.So it's up to you.Or any one else.The weed and the wheat: its time for harvest.
                  >
                  > > --- On Fri, 7/6/12, tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@> wrote:
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                  > > From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@>
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                  > > Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
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                  >
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                  > > --- In All-Energy@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@> wrote:
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                  > > > FREE ENERGY IS A REALITY
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                  > > > Message from the Galactic Federation of Light
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                  > > > As channeled through Greg Giles â€" May 28, 2012
                  >
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                  > > > Free Energy Zones
                  >
                  > >
                  >
                  > > > Free energy zones will be areas of designation that are provided to
                  >
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                  > > > supply clean and free, without charge or cost, energy to those in these
                  >
                  > >
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                  > > > areas willing to participate in these projects.
                  >
                  > >
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                  > > > What we would like to do is put aside your current means of supplying
                  >
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                  > > > your households with energy and instal a new technology that will
                  >
                  > >
                  >
                  > > > better improve the efficiency and the supply of clean energy into your
                  >
                  > >
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                  > > > home.Read entire article on;   http://the2012scenario.com/2012/05/message-from-the-galactic-federation-of-light-may-28-2012/
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                  > > > --- On Tue, 7/3/12, tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@> wrote:
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                  > > > From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@>
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                  Hi Tpanayiotou, I am so relieved that you are not on the other side of the fence. I use the cyber-cafe for my correspondence: it is safer So, your post has
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                    Hi Tpanayiotou,

                    I am so relieved that you are not on the other side of the fence.
                    I use the cyber-cafe for my correspondence: it is safer
                    So, your post has been downloaded for later perusal and meditation.

                    It surprises me that no one else has posted anything on the matter.
                    However, I hope free energy considerations are not against the objectives of our group.

                    My recent research in free energy technologies have been focused on tesla's aerial systems [especially the TREC] and those based on the tesla coil [Don Smith and Tariel Kapanardze devices].  I have also experimented with motionless pulsed systems especially the Thane Heins transformer and the motionless generator of Richard Willis.
                    The Rotoverter is a moving pulse system which I have duplicated with success so is the
                    Chas Campbel/Jacob Byzehr Gravity Flywheel system.

                    I wish I could join you to the Tesla anniversary. Forgive my envy.

                    I will get back to you once I read through your email.

                    Best regards



                    --- On Mon, 7/16/12, tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...> wrote:

                    From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...>
                    Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
                    To: All-Energy@yahoogroups.com
                    Date: Monday, July 16, 2012, 8:09 AM

                     

                    OK Dr.Fombong enough said! It was Nokola Teslas birthday in July and he is one of my heroes in regards investigating Truths as opposed to making weapons and splitting atoms ........Energy is all around us and in abundance, only the will is missing to finance how to access it and a bunch of crooks in high places sucking our finances ...if only a percentage of 700-800 Billion dollars the US military Industrial Complex uses for creating war and strife was turned to R & D the World would change over night!
                    Anyway here is a piece by stirling d.allen in full regarding the great man whose humility few could emulate...

                    ''My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength, Inspiration.
                    I have not penetrated into the secret of this core, but I know it exists.''

                    by Sterling D. Allan
                    Pure Energy Systems News

                    As mentioned the other day, on July 10, Tesla's Birthday, I'm going to be going on Coast to Coast AM to do a segment on "Tesla Today". It will be a three-hour interview with host, George Noory, beginning at 11 pm Pacific.

                    In anticipation of covering that subject, I thought I'd see if I could do an interview with someone who is at the top of my list of consultants on that topic, Karl Palsness, who I've known for about three years.

                    (P.S., later this morning, I'm also going to be interviewing another pillar along these lines, Patrick Flanagan, who I met in person in Costa Rica last year. I hope to have a write-up about that interview posted tomorrow.)

                    Karl is a gifted researcher who has been doing Tesla-related, overunity research and development full-time, with investment funds for a decade. He's working with several other people, and they have been making great progress toward not only replicating Tesla-related technologies (the really exotic stuff from the latter half of Tesla's life) but in getting them to the point of maturation that they can be brought to market, some as soon as possibly a year.

                    Karl agreed to do an interview, which we conducted on July 3, 2012 about some of the past and present research he is doing, as well as discussing Who's Who in the field of Tesla research and commercialization, and what some of the key scientific principles are.

                    As I see it, there are essentially two subdivisions of Tesla's work: what he did in the first half of his life, which has become the bedrock of modern civilization: AC polyphase power, the induction motor, radio, X-ray, neon and fluorescent lighting (just to name a few); and what he worked on in the last half of his life, which involved concepts that were so far ahead of his time that they weren't adapted, so he was shunned and ultimately died a pauper, at which point his notes were grabbed up by the US government, who seems to have implemented at least some of the technologies into various black budget projects such as HAARP, and the 1943 Philadelphia Experiment, the year Tesla died.

                    Karl was quick to point out that AC was anything but "mainstream" when Tesla first introduced it. The science establishment, headed by Edison , opposed it vigorously. And this was when Tesla was in his early twenties.

                    When I asked Karl about the fundamental principles behind the electrical work Tesla did in the latter half of his life, I was expecting a long and complex answer. But for Karl, it boils down to "asymmetric field of circuits" and a term Tesla coined: "longitudinal wave". "Single-event resonance" is also key.

                    The analogy Karl used to describe the longitudinal wave was a tsunami, whose waves can travel across the ocean at speeds exceeding 600 mph -- the speed of a jumbo jet flying over the ocean. Normal ocean waves propagate slow enough that a person can run along side one on a dock. Those are very different processes, with very different causes and results.

                    Tsunamis are usually triggered by massive land movements within the water, such as from a large earthquake or meteorite. The large displacement then propagates horizontally away, barely displacing the surface elevation until it reaches shore, where it crests and rushes inland.

                    Another example Karl cited was in sound production. It takes maybe 50 Watts equivalent of power for a person to blow a trumpet, but it takes maybe a kilowatt of power for a speaker system to reproduce the same decibel level of sound, because the speaker system uses transverse waves to manufacture the longitudinal waves. There is a longitudinal component that the speaker system doesn't directly produce, so it has to make up for it in power. This should be a clue to people in the sound reproduction industry about possible new designs that could reproduce the sound using little power.

                    Much of Tesla's latter work involved means of creating electrical longitudinal waves, through fast, abrupt change; such as through rapid spark gap discharges, or through shorting the circuit; characterizing their function, and putting them to practical use. "One of the biggest things that Tesla did was create local changes, such as a 'microbubble', or 'microvoid', which nature fills in." Tesla also played with various shapes to stimulate these effects.

                    In the case of electricity, some funky things happen in the process of creating the longitudinal wave. Energy shows up that was not fed into the system by the operator. Tesla called this "radiant energy".

                    Karl said that Tesla used asymmetric circuits that involved abrupt changes of voltage or current or both. "The first half of circuit did not match second half of circuit. For example, the first half might have a low resistance, while the second half had a high resistance." The asymmetry could also be in the number of wires, or in shape. High voltage versus high current.

                    To put it simply: you create asymmetry, and nature steps in to restore the symmetry. The objective is that the amount of energy required to establish the asymmetry is less than the amount of energy that nature provides when restoring the symmetry. A very simple example is a dam. The amount of energy required to put the dam in place, creating an asymmetry, is returned many-fold. We should remember that Tesla was the first to build a hydro-electric dam, at Niagara Falls.

                    Tesla stated: "To understand radiant energy, you should avoid electrons at all costs", and "Radiant energy circuits are void of electrons."

                    That might seem like a contradiction when talking about electricity. It certainly points to the need for some kind of mechanism to harvest that radiant energy, then transform it into the kind of electricity our devices are engineered to handle.

                    From what I understand, devices such as batteries and capacitors can absorb radiant energy; and, of course, are able to then deliver that power in the direct current manner consistent with their usual operation.

                    Karl said that in Tesla's notes from Colorado Springs , when his dome got supercharged, the ions would fly to the dome from the ionosphere. The wheelwork of nature was powering the dome."

                    "We've witnessed that [here] in Canada ," he said.

                    According to Karl, the Wardenclyffe tower "was going to be the next step in energy. It was going to take the world to the next level, wirelessly, and power the world." It wasn't just going to be a transmitter, but a receiver of Radiant energy as well.

                    Karl also speculates that the receivers of that energy were not just receivers of the signal from Wardenclyffe, but they would become receivers of radiant energy themselves.

                    "My theory is that when the Wardenclyffe signal would have been received, it would make the receiver come 'alive', becoming resonant, pumping energy from the environment locally."

                    Karl goes so far as to say that now, with the ability of modern electronics, it is possible to make that Wardenclyffe signal synthetically. The tower is actually unnecessary. A portable device can be made into a radiant energy receiver to harness that energy anywhere, whether on earth or in space. "We can make the signal locally and make the receiver come alive. After all, [even in Tesla's model,] the receiver is not receiving the energy from Wardenclyffe but from the local environment," he said by Skype today, when reviewing this story. That is the nature of the technology he and his associates are working to bring forward soon.

                    Energy is not the only application of transverse waves of this nature. Karl said, "You can send more data through longitudinal than transverse waves. A 1 terabyte line could be boosted to 1000 Tb." And those communications can be effectively instantaneous. There are also healing modalities that employ longitudinal waves of the Tesla variety. You can grow plants in darkness, as if in full sunlight.

                    In addition to some of the people working on his team, some of whom he referred to by first name, Karl listed some of the pillars in this line of research as Tom Bearden, John Bedini, Peter Lindemann, T. Henry Moray, and Stanley Meyers.

                    Karl is encouraged by how much Tesla research has taken off. "When I first got involved 10 years ago, there was very little on the Internet. It was almost virgin territory." Now the trend has gotten to the point of being "uncontainable" by the corrupt powers that be -- the same type of faction that put the kibosh on Tesla in his day. He sees a lot of action, especially in Russia , Turkey , and South Africa . He's even seen major scientific papers "backpedalling" on stances they once took against this type of science, coming closer to embracing it.

                    From his vantage point, he predicts that products along these lines will begin to appear in the marketplace for customer purchase within as few as twelve months or less. Some companies are already designing for manufacturing. Some are in pre-production, doing their testing and getting certifications.

                    We briefly discussed the fuel-free generator from South Africa as well as Ismael Aviso's technology, which seems to be a replica of Tesla's Pierce Arrow.

                    The biggest obstacle, as Karl sees it, is getting adequate funding. He bemoans the fact that the rich and famous will blow millions of dollars on yachts and frivolous parties, expensive paintings, clothing and accessories, but will act like paupers when considering financing a technology that could revolutionize the planet, making life better (including cleaner) for all of us, including them.

                    Even though the science is nearly 100 years old, its acceptance in the mainstream has yet to materialize, so it is treated as if it were junk science at best, or even snake oil. So when people with money ask their scientist friends about whether they should invest in this technology, they usually get thumbs down.

                    You thought the war of the currents (Tesla's AC vs Edison 's DC transmission of power) was bad. Tesla won that war in his day, and has been vindicated royally for more than a century. And that was over something Tesla came up with in his early 20's. He lived to 87, inventing to the end.

                    Why is it so hard to consider that if Tesla was right on that one, he was most probably also right on the other work he did? And not just a little right, but royally right. Karl added today: "This was not theory. Almost every thing he talked about was proven in his day. It was demonstrated to work. But there were people that made sure that it was not brought to market; and they went out of their way to even make Tesla seem to be a mad man."

                    Karl also remarked that a lot of this research "can be done on the cheap." So we're not talking about billions of dollars and decades of time, such as are needed for things like the Tokomak hot fusion reactor. A few millions of dollars can go very far, with much better results.

                    Karl is encouraged by the worldwide awakening that is happening, as people everywhere question the status quo and realize that the "mainstream" is controlled by a corrupt faction whose days are numbered.

                    For those interested in getting involved in Tesla research, Karl recommends the book "Secrets of Cold War Technology", which addresses the fundamental steps, how Tesla discovered these things, what he did to stumble into them, and why they impacted him, and molded him. He also recommended that you get on YouTube and see what has been posted there. And "Get back to Tesla's writings. He wrote some incredible stuff. Pick an area of research."

                    Karl and his group can be reached at modern_tesla@...

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                    > What does it matter if I am Dr. or
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                    > not the question at stake. I rather be called “slave” Fombong. If being "Doctor" is to hang unto what was hammered into me at the faculty, then I had rather forego the appellation.
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                    > Yeah, it's those who want me to believe and continue in
                    > outdated dogmas in the name science.
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                    > Believe me whoever you are:
                    > science is dynamic and so is what you term truth.
                    > I have done
                    > research for over 30 years in the scientific discipline of energy and
                    > I have found out that a lot of things concerning developments in
                    > energy transformations have either been falsified or suppressed. It is not
                    > until about 5 years ago that I realized that what I had up to then
                    > considered as truth [with regards my engineering background] was
                    > entirely illusory.
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                    > What do you want me to say?
                    > I believe in myself and I believe in
                    > free energy because I have proven it to myself and can prove it to
                    > you if you are willing. I have proof that free energy technologies
                    > have been suppressed from about a century ago to the moment.
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                    > Free energy is not considered in the
                    > sense that you define energy in classical scientific concepts.
                    > It does not come from nothing, rather
                    > it comes from multiple interlaced energy forms.
                    > Energy is neither created nor
                    > destroyed: it is only transformed.
                    > Mind you, energy comes in one form by
                    > transforming another form into that which is desired.
                    > Our free energy sources are not Closed
                    > but rather intersecting and interacting systems.
                    > That is the way the universe is made:
                    > there is no closed system.
                    > That is where traditional science
                    > misleads you by defining energy in terms of a closed system. The closed system concept was intentionally introduced to mislead simple minds.
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                    > Every energy resource is connected to
                    > other systems from which or to which energy flows in its myriads of
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                    > Africa.
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                    > believe in.
                    > The truth has numerous faces. You
                    > choose yours and you will not be in error until your time come and
                    > you eyes open or turn in a different direction and you [being a judge unto yourself] exclaim: 'the truth is over there!'
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                    > See Tpanayiotou and others, we are not
                    > here to impose our truths on you. We are not here to say that you are
                    > in error. We are only stating our perceptions and you have the right to
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                    > “free energy” and I could then back up my opposition with
                    > “fail-proof” scientific and mathematical theories, formulae and
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                    > I Wish you the best.
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                    > --- On Sat, 7/14/12, tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...> wrote:
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                    > Dear Dr. Fombong, if that is your real title or just one you have decided to tag on for appearances !
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                    > Some Truths are Primordial and cannot be changed or debated about by Humans or anyone else and around these is a sea of flexibility.
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                    > When we have classes with hungry students we try to feed them only known quantities so that they acquire the tools to expand their awareness to be open to further enlightenement. We don't feed them indiscriminately and overload their systems so that they get too exhausted to work and ask further questions.
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                    > The Christain, Muslims, Hindus and every organised clan of Beings have taken Truths and twisted them to fit their agenda for Power and control citing the very logic you espouse to hide behind.
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                    > > Dear Tpanayiotou,Sure what you say is true from your point of view.No one is charged with believing the information.Truth is a very relative matter, you knowRelative time, location, subject,.... But "according to your faith be it unto you"Even when conduction sophisticated experiments wit sub atomic particles, you can decide the outcome of the experiment.So it's up to you.Or any one else.The weed and the wheat: its time for harvest.
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                  • tpanayiotou
                    Hello Dr.Fombong, God speed and stay safe ....it s really great that you have actually duplicated some projects, after all talk is cheap.!!
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                      Hello Dr.Fombong,

                      God speed and stay safe ....it's really great that you have actually duplicated some projects, after all talk is cheap.!!


                      http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf#page=128

                      The Kapanadze coil analyzed by William J. McFreey (pdf) - Starting on p. 128 of chapter 3 of Patrick J. Kelly's compilation, this article explain the working principles of Kapanadze devices. "This explanation extends to Tesla, Hubbard, Meyer, Mark, SR193. In my opinion, this is a perfect explanation and the only correct one. This 'overunity' is called... nuclear energy, no matter how it is disguised." -- Greg Pakulski (Free-Energy-Info.co.uk; May, 2012)


                      --- In All-Energy@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@...> wrote:
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                      > Hi Tpanayiotou,
                      >
                      > I am so relieved that you are not on the other side of the fence.
                      > I use the cyber-cafe for my correspondence: it is safer
                      > So, your post has been downloaded for later perusal and meditation.
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                      > It surprises me that no one else has posted anything on the matter.
                      > However, I hope free energy considerations are not against the objectives of our group.
                      >
                      > My recent research in free energy technologies have been focused on tesla's aerial systems [especially the TREC] and those based on the tesla coil [Don Smith and Tariel Kapanardze devices].  I have also experimented with motionless pulsed systems especially the Thane Heins transformer and the motionless generator of Richard Willis.
                      > The Rotoverter is a moving pulse system which I have duplicated with success so is the
                      > Chas Campbel/Jacob Byzehr Gravity Flywheel system.
                      >
                      > I wish I could join you to the Tesla anniversary. Forgive my envy.
                      >
                      > I will get back to you once I read through your email.
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                      > Best regards
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                      > --- On Mon, 7/16/12, tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...> wrote:
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                      > From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...>
                      > Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
                      > To: All-Energy@yahoogroups.com
                      > Date: Monday, July 16, 2012, 8:09 AM
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                      > OK Dr.Fombong enough said! It was Nokola Teslas birthday in July and he is one of my heroes in regards investigating Truths as opposed to making weapons and splitting atoms ........Energy is all around us and in abundance, only the will is missing to finance how to access it and a bunch of crooks in high places sucking our finances ...if only a percentage of 700-800 Billion dollars the US military Industrial Complex uses for creating war and strife was turned to R & D the World would change over night!
                      >
                      > Anyway here is a piece by stirling d.allen in full regarding the great man whose humility few could emulate...
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                      > ''My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength, Inspiration.
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                      > I have not penetrated into the secret of this core, but I know it exists.''
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                      > by Sterling D. Allan
                      >
                      > Pure Energy Systems News
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                      >
                      > As mentioned the other day, on July 10, Tesla's Birthday, I'm going to be going on Coast to Coast AM to do a segment on "Tesla Today". It will be a three-hour interview with host, George Noory, beginning at 11 pm Pacific.
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                      > In anticipation of covering that subject, I thought I'd see if I could do an interview with someone who is at the top of my list of consultants on that topic, Karl Palsness, who I've known for about three years.
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                      > (P.S., later this morning, I'm also going to be interviewing another pillar along these lines, Patrick Flanagan, who I met in person in Costa Rica last year. I hope to have a write-up about that interview posted tomorrow.)
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                      > Karl is a gifted researcher who has been doing Tesla-related, overunity research and development full-time, with investment funds for a decade. He's working with several other people, and they have been making great progress toward not only replicating Tesla-related technologies (the really exotic stuff from the latter half of Tesla's life) but in getting them to the point of maturation that they can be brought to market, some as soon as possibly a year.
                      >
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                      > Karl agreed to do an interview, which we conducted on July 3, 2012 about some of the past and present research he is doing, as well as discussing Who's Who in the field of Tesla research and commercialization, and what some of the key scientific principles are.
                      >
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                      > As I see it, there are essentially two subdivisions of Tesla's work: what he did in the first half of his life, which has become the bedrock of modern civilization: AC polyphase power, the induction motor, radio, X-ray, neon and fluorescent lighting (just to name a few); and what he worked on in the last half of his life, which involved concepts that were so far ahead of his time that they weren't adapted, so he was shunned and ultimately died a pauper, at which point his notes were grabbed up by the US government, who seems to have implemented at least some of the technologies into various black budget projects such as HAARP, and the 1943 Philadelphia Experiment, the year Tesla died.
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                      > Karl was quick to point out that AC was anything but "mainstream" when Tesla first introduced it. The science establishment, headed by Edison , opposed it vigorously. And this was when Tesla was in his early twenties.
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                      > When I asked Karl about the fundamental principles behind the electrical work Tesla did in the latter half of his life, I was expecting a long and complex answer. But for Karl, it boils down to "asymmetric field of circuits" and a term Tesla coined: "longitudinal wave". "Single-event resonance" is also key.
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                      > The analogy Karl used to describe the longitudinal wave was a tsunami, whose waves can travel across the ocean at speeds exceeding 600 mph -- the speed of a jumbo jet flying over the ocean. Normal ocean waves propagate slow enough that a person can run along side one on a dock. Those are very different processes, with very different causes and results.
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                      > Tsunamis are usually triggered by massive land movements within the water, such as from a large earthquake or meteorite. The large displacement then propagates horizontally away, barely displacing the surface elevation until it reaches shore, where it crests and rushes inland.
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                      > Another example Karl cited was in sound production. It takes maybe 50 Watts equivalent of power for a person to blow a trumpet, but it takes maybe a kilowatt of power for a speaker system to reproduce the same decibel level of sound, because the speaker system uses transverse waves to manufacture the longitudinal waves. There is a longitudinal component that the speaker system doesn't directly produce, so it has to make up for it in power. This should be a clue to people in the sound reproduction industry about possible new designs that could reproduce the sound using little power.
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                      > Much of Tesla's latter work involved means of creating electrical longitudinal waves, through fast, abrupt change; such as through rapid spark gap discharges, or through shorting the circuit; characterizing their function, and putting them to practical use. "One of the biggest things that Tesla did was create local changes, such as a 'microbubble', or 'microvoid', which nature fills in." Tesla also played with various shapes to stimulate these effects.
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                      > In the case of electricity, some funky things happen in the process of creating the longitudinal wave. Energy shows up that was not fed into the system by the operator. Tesla called this "radiant energy".
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                      > Karl said that Tesla used asymmetric circuits that involved abrupt changes of voltage or current or both. "The first half of circuit did not match second half of circuit. For example, the first half might have a low resistance, while the second half had a high resistance." The asymmetry could also be in the number of wires, or in shape. High voltage versus high current.
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                      > To put it simply: you create asymmetry, and nature steps in to restore the symmetry. The objective is that the amount of energy required to establish the asymmetry is less than the amount of energy that nature provides when restoring the symmetry. A very simple example is a dam. The amount of energy required to put the dam in place, creating an asymmetry, is returned many-fold. We should remember that Tesla was the first to build a hydro-electric dam, at Niagara Falls.
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                      > Tesla stated: "To understand radiant energy, you should avoid electrons at all costs", and "Radiant energy circuits are void of electrons."
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                      > That might seem like a contradiction when talking about electricity. It certainly points to the need for some kind of mechanism to harvest that radiant energy, then transform it into the kind of electricity our devices are engineered to handle.
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                      > From what I understand, devices such as batteries and capacitors can absorb radiant energy; and, of course, are able to then deliver that power in the direct current manner consistent with their usual operation.
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                      > Karl said that in Tesla's notes from Colorado Springs , when his dome got supercharged, the ions would fly to the dome from the ionosphere. The wheelwork of nature was powering the dome."
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                      > "We've witnessed that [here] in Canada ," he said.
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                      > According to Karl, the Wardenclyffe tower "was going to be the next step in energy. It was going to take the world to the next level, wirelessly, and power the world." It wasn't just going to be a transmitter, but a receiver of Radiant energy as well.
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                      > Karl also speculates that the receivers of that energy were not just receivers of the signal from Wardenclyffe, but they would become receivers of radiant energy themselves.
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                      > "My theory is that when the Wardenclyffe signal would have been received, it would make the receiver come 'alive', becoming resonant, pumping energy from the environment locally."
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                      > Karl goes so far as to say that now, with the ability of modern electronics, it is possible to make that Wardenclyffe signal synthetically. The tower is actually unnecessary. A portable device can be made into a radiant energy receiver to harness that energy anywhere, whether on earth or in space. "We can make the signal locally and make the receiver come alive. After all, [even in Tesla's model,] the receiver is not receiving the energy from Wardenclyffe but from the local environment," he said by Skype today, when reviewing this story. That is the nature of the technology he and his associates are working to bring forward soon.
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                      > Energy is not the only application of transverse waves of this nature. Karl said, "You can send more data through longitudinal than transverse waves. A 1 terabyte line could be boosted to 1000 Tb." And those communications can be effectively instantaneous. There are also healing modalities that employ longitudinal waves of the Tesla variety. You can grow plants in darkness, as if in full sunlight.
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                      > In addition to some of the people working on his team, some of whom he referred to by first name, Karl listed some of the pillars in this line of research as Tom Bearden, John Bedini, Peter Lindemann, T. Henry Moray, and Stanley Meyers.
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                      > Karl is encouraged by how much Tesla research has taken off. "When I first got involved 10 years ago, there was very little on the Internet. It was almost virgin territory." Now the trend has gotten to the point of being "uncontainable" by the corrupt powers that be -- the same type of faction that put the kibosh on Tesla in his day. He sees a lot of action, especially in Russia , Turkey , and South Africa . He's even seen major scientific papers "backpedalling" on stances they once took against this type of science, coming closer to embracing it.
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                      > From his vantage point, he predicts that products along these lines will begin to appear in the marketplace for customer purchase within as few as twelve months or less. Some companies are already designing for manufacturing. Some are in pre-production, doing their testing and getting certifications.
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                      > We briefly discussed the fuel-free generator from South Africa as well as Ismael Aviso's technology, which seems to be a replica of Tesla's Pierce Arrow.
                      >
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                      > The biggest obstacle, as Karl sees it, is getting adequate funding. He bemoans the fact that the rich and famous will blow millions of dollars on yachts and frivolous parties, expensive paintings, clothing and accessories, but will act like paupers when considering financing a technology that could revolutionize the planet, making life better (including cleaner) for all of us, including them.
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                      > Even though the science is nearly 100 years old, its acceptance in the mainstream has yet to materialize, so it is treated as if it were junk science at best, or even snake oil. So when people with money ask their scientist friends about whether they should invest in this technology, they usually get thumbs down.
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                      > You thought the war of the currents (Tesla's AC vs Edison 's DC transmission of power) was bad. Tesla won that war in his day, and has been vindicated royally for more than a century. And that was over something Tesla came up with in his early 20's. He lived to 87, inventing to the end.
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                      > Why is it so hard to consider that if Tesla was right on that one, he was most probably also right on the other work he did? And not just a little right, but royally right. Karl added today: "This was not theory. Almost every thing he talked about was proven in his day. It was demonstrated to work. But there were people that made sure that it was not brought to market; and they went out of their way to even make Tesla seem to be a mad man."
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                      > Karl also remarked that a lot of this research "can be done on the cheap." So we're not talking about billions of dollars and decades of time, such as are needed for things like the Tokomak hot fusion reactor. A few millions of dollars can go very far, with much better results.
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                      > Karl is encouraged by the worldwide awakening that is happening, as people everywhere question the status quo and realize that the "mainstream" is controlled by a corrupt faction whose days are numbered.
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                      > For those interested in getting involved in Tesla research, Karl recommends the book "Secrets of Cold War Technology", which addresses the fundamental steps, how Tesla discovered these things, what he did to stumble into them, and why they impacted him, and molded him. He also recommended that you get on YouTube and see what has been posted there. And "Get back to Tesla's writings. He wrote some incredible stuff. Pick an area of research."
                      >
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                      > Karl and his group can be reached at modern_tesla@...
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                      > --- In All-Energy@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@> wrote:
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                      > > Hi Tpanayiotou,
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                      > > What does it matter if I am Dr. or
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                      > > Please, take me for neither for that is
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                      > > not the question at stake. I rather be called “slave” Fombong. If being "Doctor" is to hang unto what was hammered into me at the faculty, then I had rather forego the appellation.
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                      > > science is dynamic and so is what you term truth.
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                      > > I have done
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                      > > research for over 30 years in the scientific discipline of energy and
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                      > > I have found out that a lot of things concerning developments in
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                      > > energy transformations have either been falsified or suppressed. It is not
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                      > > What do you want me to say?
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                      > > I believe in myself and I believe in
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                      > > free energy because I have proven it to myself and can prove it to
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                      > > you if you are willing. I have proof that free energy technologies
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                      > > have been suppressed from about a century ago to the moment.
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                      > > Free energy is not considered in the
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                      > > sense that you define energy in classical scientific concepts.
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                      > > It does not come from nothing, rather
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                      > > Energy is neither created nor
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                      > > Mind you, energy comes in one form by
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                      > > Our free energy sources are not Closed
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                      > > That is the way the universe is made:
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                      > > there is no closed system.
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                      > > That is where traditional science
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                      > > misleads you by defining energy in terms of a closed system. The closed system concept was intentionally introduced to mislead simple minds.
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                      > > It does not matter what you choose to
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                      > > The truth has numerous faces. You
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                      > > choose yours and you will not be in error until your time come and
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                      > > you eyes open or turn in a different direction and you [being a judge unto yourself] exclaim: 'the truth is over there!'
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                      > > See Tpanayiotou and others, we are not
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                      > > One more thing, a few years ago I was
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                      > > --- On Sat, 7/14/12, tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@> wrote:
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                      Hi Tpanayiotou, My task at moment is more of doing than studying. theories have started boring me. I have to earn my bread as consultant to several
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                        Hi Tpanayiotou,
                        My task at moment is more of doing than studying. theories have started boring me.
                        I have to earn my bread as consultant to several international bodies but this does not give me enough funds for the type of free energy research I want to get into.
                        Practical Guide to "Free Energy" Devices is a book that I have been using like a bible. It is most informative and I am highly indebted to the author who has given it to everyone for free.
                        I have also subscribed to several free energy forums which have helped guide my research.
                        In a bid to raise more funds for my free energy research, I have decided to thermally and catalytically De-polymerize abundant local waste plastics to produce gasoline and diesel for sale. I have gathered materials to construct a small batch type, 100 liter per day plant. The revenue from this may be about $50/day if I escape from being taxed or shut down entirely.
                        With haste, I may produce my first liter by August 15.
                        More later.
                        Bye

                        From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...>
                        To: All-Energy@yahoogroups.com
                        Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 9:45 PM
                        Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED

                         
                        Hello Dr.Fombong,

                        God speed and stay safe ....it's really great that you have actually duplicated some projects, after all talk is cheap.!!

                        http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf#page=128

                        The Kapanadze coil analyzed by William J. McFreey (pdf) - Starting on p. 128 of chapter 3 of Patrick J. Kelly's compilation, this article explain the working principles of Kapanadze devices. "This explanation extends to Tesla, Hubbard, Meyer, Mark, SR193. In my opinion, this is a perfect explanation and the only correct one. This 'overunity' is called... nuclear energy, no matter how it is disguised." -- Greg Pakulski (Free-Energy-Info.co.uk; May, 2012)

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                        > I use the cyber-cafe for my correspondence: it is safer
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                        > However, I hope free energy considerations are not against the objectives of our group.
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                        > My recent research in free energy technologies have been focused on tesla's aerial systems [especially the TREC] and those based on the tesla coil [Don Smith and Tariel Kapanardze devices].  I have also experimented with motionless pulsed systems especially the Thane Heins transformer and the motionless generator of Richard Willis.
                        > The Rotoverter is a moving pulse system which I have duplicated with success so is the
                        > Chas Campbel/Jacob Byzehr Gravity Flywheel system.
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                        > Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
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                        > Karl agreed to do an interview, which we conducted on July 3, 2012 about some of the past and present research he is doing, as well as discussing Who's Who in the field of Tesla research and commercialization, and what some of the key scientific principles are.
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                        > As I see it, there are essentially two subdivisions of Tesla's work: what he did in the first half of his life, which has become the bedrock of modern civilization: AC polyphase power, the induction motor, radio, X-ray, neon and fluorescent lighting (just to name a few); and what he worked on in the last half of his life, which involved concepts that were so far ahead of his time that they weren't adapted, so he was shunned and ultimately died a pauper, at which point his notes were grabbed up by the US government, who seems to have implemented at least some of the technologies into various black budget projects such as HAARP, and the 1943 Philadelphia Experiment, the year Tesla died.
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                        > Karl was quick to point out that AC was anything but "mainstream" when Tesla first introduced it. The science establishment, headed by Edison , opposed it vigorously. And this was when Tesla was in his early twenties.
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                        > When I asked Karl about the fundamental principles behind the electrical work Tesla did in the latter half of his life, I was expecting a long and complex answer. But for Karl, it boils down to "asymmetric field of circuits" and a term Tesla coined: "longitudinal wave". "Single-event resonance" is also key.
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                        > The analogy Karl used to describe the longitudinal wave was a tsunami, whose waves can travel across the ocean at speeds exceeding 600 mph -- the speed of a jumbo jet flying over the ocean. Normal ocean waves propagate slow enough that a person can run along side one on a dock. Those are very different processes, with very different causes and results.
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                        > Tsunamis are usually triggered by massive land movements within the water, such as from a large earthquake or meteorite. The large displacement then propagates horizontally away, barely displacing the surface elevation until it reaches shore, where it crests and rushes inland.
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                        > Another example Karl cited was in sound production. It takes maybe 50 Watts equivalent of power for a person to blow a trumpet, but it takes maybe a kilowatt of power for a speaker system to reproduce the same decibel level of sound, because the speaker system uses transverse waves to manufacture the longitudinal waves. There is a longitudinal component that the speaker system doesn't directly produce, so it has to make up for it in power. This should be a clue to people in the sound reproduction industry about possible new designs that could reproduce the sound using little power.
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                        > Much of Tesla's latter work involved means of creating electrical longitudinal waves, through fast, abrupt change; such as through rapid spark gap discharges, or through shorting the circuit; characterizing their function, and putting them to practical use. "One of the biggest things that Tesla did was create local changes, such as a 'microbubble', or 'microvoid', which nature fills in." Tesla also played with various shapes to stimulate these effects.
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                        > In the case of electricity, some funky things happen in the process of creating the longitudinal wave. Energy shows up that was not fed into the system by the operator. Tesla called this "radiant energy".
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                        > To put it simply: you create asymmetry, and nature steps in to restore the symmetry. The objective is that the amount of energy required to establish the asymmetry is less than the amount of energy that nature provides when restoring the symmetry. A very simple example is a dam. The amount of energy required to put the dam in place, creating an asymmetry, is returned many-fold. We should remember that Tesla was the first to build a hydro-electric dam, at Niagara Falls.
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                        > Tesla stated: "To understand radiant energy, you should avoid electrons at all costs", and "Radiant energy circuits are void of electrons."
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                        > That might seem like a contradiction when talking about electricity. It certainly points to the need for some kind of mechanism to harvest that radiant energy, then transform it into the kind of electricity our devices are engineered to handle.
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                        > From what I understand, devices such as batteries and capacitors can absorb radiant energy; and, of course, are able to then deliver that power in the direct current manner consistent with their usual operation.
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                        > Karl said that in Tesla's notes from Colorado Springs , when his dome got supercharged, the ions would fly to the dome from the ionosphere. The wheelwork of nature was powering the dome."
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                        > "We've witnessed that [here] in Canada ," he said.
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                        > According to Karl, the Wardenclyffe tower "was going to be the next step in energy. It was going to take the world to the next level, wirelessly, and power the world." It wasn't just going to be a transmitter, but a receiver of Radiant energy as well.
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                        > Karl goes so far as to say that now, with the ability of modern electronics, it is possible to make that Wardenclyffe signal synthetically. The tower is actually unnecessary. A portable device can be made into a radiant energy receiver to harness that energy anywhere, whether on earth or in space. "We can make the signal locally and make the receiver come alive. After all, [even in Tesla's model,] the receiver is not receiving the energy from Wardenclyffe but from the local environment," he said by Skype today, when reviewing this story. That is the nature of the technology he and his associates are working to bring forward soon.
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                        > Karl is encouraged by how much Tesla research has taken off. "When I first got involved 10 years ago, there was very little on the Internet. It was almost virgin territory." Now the trend has gotten to the point of being "uncontainable" by the corrupt powers that be -- the same type of faction that put the kibosh on Tesla in his day. He sees a lot of action, especially in Russia , Turkey , and South Africa . He's even seen major scientific papers "backpedalling" on stances they once took against this type of science, coming closer to embracing it.
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                        > We briefly discussed the fuel-free generator from South Africa as well as Ismael Aviso's technology, which seems to be a replica of Tesla's Pierce Arrow.
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                        > The biggest obstacle, as Karl sees it, is getting adequate funding. He bemoans the fact that the rich and famous will blow millions of dollars on yachts and frivolous parties, expensive paintings, clothing and accessories, but will act like paupers when considering financing a technology that could revolutionize the planet, making life better (including cleaner) for all of us, including them.
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                        > Even though the science is nearly 100 years old, its acceptance in the mainstream has yet to materialize, so it is treated as if it were junk science at best, or even snake oil. So when people with money ask their scientist friends about whether they should invest in this technology, they usually get thumbs down.
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                        > You thought the war of the currents (Tesla's AC vs Edison 's DC transmission of power) was bad. Tesla won that war in his day, and has been vindicated royally for more than a century. And that was over something Tesla came up with in his early 20's. He lived to 87, inventing to the end.
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                        > Why is it so hard to consider that if Tesla was right on that one, he was most probably also right on the other work he did? And not just a little right, but royally right. Karl added today: "This was not theory. Almost every thing he talked about was proven in his day. It was demonstrated to work. But there were people that made sure that it was not brought to market; and they went out of their way to even make Tesla seem to be a mad man."
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                        > For those interested in getting involved in Tesla research, Karl recommends the book "Secrets of Cold War Technology", which addresses the fundamental steps, how Tesla discovered these things, what he did to stumble into them, and why they impacted him, and molded him. He also recommended that you get on YouTube and see what has been posted there. And "Get back to Tesla's writings. He wrote some incredible stuff. Pick an area of research."
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                        > --- In All-Energy@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@> wrote:
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                        > > Hi Tpanayiotou,
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                        > > What does it matter if I am Dr. or
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                        > > Please, take me for neither for that is
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                        > > not the question at stake. I rather be called “slave” Fombong. If being "Doctor" is to hang unto what was hammered into me at the faculty, then I had rather forego the appellation.
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                        > > I have done
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                        > > I have found out that a lot of things concerning developments in
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                        > > I believe in myself and I believe in
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                        > > Free energy is not considered in the
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                        > > See Tpanayiotou and others, we are not
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                        > > --- On Sat, 7/14/12, tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@> wrote:
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                        > > From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@>
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                        > > Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
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                        > > Dear Dr. Fombong, if that is your real title or just one you have decided to tag on for appearances !
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                        > > --- In All-Energy@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@> wrote:
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                        > > > Dear Tpanayiotou,Sure what you say is true from your point of view.No one is charged with believing the information.Truth is a very relative matter, you knowRelative time, location, subject,.... But "according to your faith be it unto you"Even when conduction sophisticated experiments wit sub atomic particles, you can decide the outcome of the experiment.So it's up to you.Or any one else.The weed and the wheat: its time for harvest.
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                        > > > Alas, this link seems very suspicious as it has a lot of rubbish mixed with Truths and half-truths ....a real time-waster for serious seekers of Truth. Especially all that crap about Obama being some sort of God-send evolved person, if anything the opposite is true about the lying fox, not that I think the other mix of Hyenas in the Political, Banking, Corporate bunch of Criminal Racketeers are any better!! This smacks of disinformation and volume blasting to wear peoples brains into disinterest and apathy ....or putting it more succinctly to dull peoples brains back to the TV couch !
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                      • tony kuli panayiotou
                        Sounds like you have your hands full...God speed to you! Be careful not to reveal too much on these public forums, stay below the rada lest the heynas smell
                        Message 11 of 16 , Jul 21, 2012
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                          Sounds like you have your hands full...God speed to you!
                          Be careful not to reveal too much on these public forums, stay below the rada lest the heynas smell you out.
                           
                           
                           
                           
                           
                           
                           
                           
                           
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                          STAY INFORMED
                           


                          From: Dr. Fombong <fombongturbine@...>
                          To: "All-Energy@yahoogroups.com" <All-Energy@yahoogroups.com>
                          Sent: Friday, 20 July 2012, 15:52
                          Subject: Re: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED

                           
                          Hi Tpanayiotou,
                          My task at moment is more of doing than studying. theories have started boring me.
                          I have to earn my bread as consultant to several international bodies but this does not give me enough funds for the type of free energy research I want to get into.
                          Practical Guide to "Free Energy" Devices is a book that I have been using like a bible. It is most informative and I am highly indebted to the author who has given it to everyone for free.
                          I have also subscribed to several free energy forums which have helped guide my research.
                          In a bid to raise more funds for my free energy research, I have decided to thermally and catalytically De-polymerize abundant local waste plastics to produce gasoline and diesel for sale. I have gathered materials to construct a small batch type, 100 liter per day plant. The revenue from this may be about $50/day if I escape from being taxed or shut down entirely.
                          With haste, I may produce my first liter by August 15.
                          More later.
                          Bye
                          From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...>
                          To: All-Energy@yahoogroups.com
                          Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 9:45 PM
                          Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED

                           
                          Hello Dr.Fombong,

                          God speed and stay safe ....it's really great that you have actually duplicated some projects, after all talk is cheap.!!

                          http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf#page=128

                          The Kapanadze coil analyzed by William J. McFreey (pdf) - Starting on p. 128 of chapter 3 of Patrick J. Kelly's compilation, this article explain the working principles of Kapanadze devices. "This explanation extends to Tesla, Hubbard, Meyer, Mark, SR193. In my opinion, this is a perfect explanation and the only correct one. This 'overunity' is called... nuclear energy, no matter how it is disguised." -- Greg Pakulski (Free-Energy-Info.co.uk; May, 2012)

                          --- In mailto:All-Energy%40yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@...> wrote:
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                          > Hi Tpanayiotou,
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                          > I am so relieved that you are not on the other side of the fence.
                          > I use the cyber-cafe for my correspondence: it is safer
                          > So, your post has been downloaded for later perusal and meditation.
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                          > It surprises me that no one else has posted anything on the matter.
                          > However, I hope free energy considerations are not against the objectives of our group.
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                          > My recent research in free energy technologies have been focused on tesla's aerial systems [especially the TREC] and those based on the tesla coil [Don Smith and Tariel Kapanardze devices].  I have also experimented with motionless pulsed systems especially the Thane Heins transformer and the motionless generator of Richard Willis.
                          > The Rotoverter is a moving pulse system which I have duplicated with success so is the
                          > Chas Campbel/Jacob Byzehr Gravity
                          Flywheel system.
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                          > I wish I could join you to the Tesla anniversary. Forgive my envy.
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                          > I will get back to you once I read through your email.
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                          > Best regards
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                          > --- On Mon, 7/16/12, tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...> wrote:
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                          > From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...>
                          > Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
                          > To: mailto:All-Energy%40yahoogroups.com
                          > Date: Monday, July 16, 2012, 8:09 AM
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                          > OK Dr.Fombong enough said! It was Nokola Teslas birthday in
                          July and he is one of my heroes in regards investigating Truths as opposed to making weapons and splitting atoms ........Energy is all around us and in abundance, only the will is missing to finance how to access it and a bunch of crooks in high places sucking our finances ...if only a percentage of 700-800 Billion dollars the US military Industrial Complex uses for creating war and strife was turned to R & D the World would change over night!
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                          > Anyway here is a piece by stirling d.allen in full regarding the great man whose humility few could emulate...
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                          > ''My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength, Inspiration.
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                          > I have not penetrated into the secret of this core, but I know it exists.''
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                          > by Sterling D. Allan
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                          > As
                          mentioned the other day, on July 10, Tesla's Birthday, I'm going to be going on Coast to Coast AM to do a segment on "Tesla Today". It will be a three-hour interview with host, George Noory, beginning at 11 pm Pacific.
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                          > In anticipation of covering that subject, I thought I'd see if I could do an interview with someone who is at the top of my list of consultants on that topic, Karl Palsness, who I've known for about three years.
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                          > (P.S., later this morning, I'm also going to be interviewing another pillar along these lines, Patrick Flanagan, who I met in person in Costa Rica last year. I hope to have a write-up about that interview posted tomorrow.)
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                          > Karl is a gifted researcher who has been doing Tesla-related, overunity research and development full-time, with investment funds for a decade. He's working with several other people, and they have been
                          making great progress toward not only replicating Tesla-related technologies (the really exotic stuff from the latter half of Tesla's life) but in getting them to the point of maturation that they can be brought to market, some as soon as possibly a year.
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                          > Karl agreed to do an interview, which we conducted on July 3, 2012 about some of the past and present research he is doing, as well as discussing Who's Who in the field of Tesla research and commercialization, and what some of the key scientific principles are.
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                          > As I see it, there are essentially two subdivisions of Tesla's work: what he did in the first half of his life, which has become the bedrock of modern civilization: AC polyphase power, the induction motor, radio, X-ray, neon and fluorescent lighting (just to name a few); and what he worked on in the last half of his life, which involved concepts that were so far ahead of his
                          time that they weren't adapted, so he was shunned and ultimately died a pauper, at which point his notes were grabbed up by the US government, who seems to have implemented at least some of the technologies into various black budget projects such as HAARP, and the 1943 Philadelphia Experiment, the year Tesla died.
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                          > Karl was quick to point out that AC was anything but "mainstream" when Tesla first introduced it. The science establishment, headed by Edison , opposed it vigorously. And this was when Tesla was in his early twenties.
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                          > When I asked Karl about the fundamental principles behind the electrical work Tesla did in the latter half of his life, I was expecting a long and complex answer. But for Karl, it boils down to "asymmetric field of circuits" and a term Tesla coined: "longitudinal wave". "Single-event resonance" is also key.
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                          > The analogy Karl
                          used to describe the longitudinal wave was a tsunami, whose waves can travel across the ocean at speeds exceeding 600 mph -- the speed of a jumbo jet flying over the ocean. Normal ocean waves propagate slow enough that a person can run along side one on a dock. Those are very different processes, with very different causes and results.
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                          > Tsunamis are usually triggered by massive land movements within the water, such as from a large earthquake or meteorite. The large displacement then propagates horizontally away, barely displacing the surface elevation until it reaches shore, where it crests and rushes inland.
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                          > Another example Karl cited was in sound production. It takes maybe 50 Watts equivalent of power for a person to blow a trumpet, but it takes maybe a kilowatt of power for a speaker system to reproduce the same decibel level of sound, because the speaker system uses transverse
                          waves to manufacture the longitudinal waves. There is a longitudinal component that the speaker system doesn't directly produce, so it has to make up for it in power. This should be a clue to people in the sound reproduction industry about possible new designs that could reproduce the sound using little power.
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                          > Much of Tesla's latter work involved means of creating electrical longitudinal waves, through fast, abrupt change; such as through rapid spark gap discharges, or through shorting the circuit; characterizing their function, and putting them to practical use. "One of the biggest things that Tesla did was create local changes, such as a 'microbubble', or 'microvoid', which nature fills in." Tesla also played with various shapes to stimulate these effects.
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                          > In the case of electricity, some funky things happen in the process of creating the longitudinal wave. Energy shows up that was
                          not fed into the system by the operator. Tesla called this "radiant energy".
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                          > Karl said that Tesla used asymmetric circuits that involved abrupt changes of voltage or current or both. "The first half of circuit did not match second half of circuit. For example, the first half might have a low resistance, while the second half had a high resistance." The asymmetry could also be in the number of wires, or in shape. High voltage versus high current.
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                          > To put it simply: you create asymmetry, and nature steps in to restore the symmetry. The objective is that the amount of energy required to establish the asymmetry is less than the amount of energy that nature provides when restoring the symmetry. A very simple example is a dam. The amount of energy required to put the dam in place, creating an asymmetry, is returned many-fold. We should remember that Tesla was the first to build a
                          hydro-electric dam, at Niagara Falls.
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                          > Tesla stated: "To understand radiant energy, you should avoid electrons at all costs", and "Radiant energy circuits are void of electrons."
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                          > That might seem like a contradiction when talking about electricity. It certainly points to the need for some kind of mechanism to harvest that radiant energy, then transform it into the kind of electricity our devices are engineered to handle.
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                          > From what I understand, devices such as batteries and capacitors can absorb radiant energy; and, of course, are able to then deliver that power in the direct current manner consistent with their usual operation.
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                          > Karl said that in Tesla's notes from Colorado Springs , when his dome got supercharged, the ions would fly to the dome from the ionosphere. The wheelwork of nature was powering the
                          dome."
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                          > "We've witnessed that [here] in Canada ," he said.
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                          > According to Karl, the Wardenclyffe tower "was going to be the next step in energy. It was going to take the world to the next level, wirelessly, and power the world." It wasn't just going to be a transmitter, but a receiver of Radiant energy as well.
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                          > Karl also speculates that the receivers of that energy were not just receivers of the signal from Wardenclyffe, but they would become receivers of radiant energy themselves.
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                          > "My theory is that when the Wardenclyffe signal would have been received, it would make the receiver come 'alive', becoming resonant, pumping energy from the environment locally."
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                          > Karl goes so far as to say that now, with the ability of modern electronics, it is possible to make that Wardenclyffe signal
                          synthetically. The tower is actually unnecessary. A portable device can be made into a radiant energy receiver to harness that energy anywhere, whether on earth or in space. "We can make the signal locally and make the receiver come alive. After all, [even in Tesla's model,] the receiver is not receiving the energy from Wardenclyffe but from the local environment," he said by Skype today, when reviewing this story. That is the nature of the technology he and his associates are working to bring forward soon.
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                          > Energy is not the only application of transverse waves of this nature. Karl said, "You can send more data through longitudinal than transverse waves. A 1 terabyte line could be boosted to 1000 Tb." And those communications can be effectively instantaneous. There are also healing modalities that employ longitudinal waves of the Tesla variety. You can grow plants in darkness, as if in full sunlight.
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                          > In addition to some of the people working on his team, some of whom he referred to by first name, Karl listed some of the pillars in this line of research as Tom Bearden, John Bedini, Peter Lindemann, T. Henry Moray, and Stanley Meyers.
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                          > Karl is encouraged by how much Tesla research has taken off. "When I first got involved 10 years ago, there was very little on the Internet. It was almost virgin territory." Now the trend has gotten to the point of being "uncontainable" by the corrupt powers that be -- the same type of faction that put the kibosh on Tesla in his day. He sees a lot of action, especially in Russia , Turkey , and South Africa . He's even seen major scientific papers "backpedalling" on stances they once took against this type of science, coming closer to embracing it.
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                          > From his vantage point, he predicts that products along these lines will begin to appear
                          in the marketplace for customer purchase within as few as twelve months or less. Some companies are already designing for manufacturing. Some are in pre-production, doing their testing and getting certifications.
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                          > We briefly discussed the fuel-free generator from South Africa as well as Ismael Aviso's technology, which seems to be a replica of Tesla's Pierce Arrow.
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                          > The biggest obstacle, as Karl sees it, is getting adequate funding. He bemoans the fact that the rich and famous will blow millions of dollars on yachts and frivolous parties, expensive paintings, clothing and accessories, but will act like paupers when considering financing a technology that could revolutionize the planet, making life better (including cleaner) for all of us, including them.
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                          > Even though the science is nearly 100 years old, its acceptance in the mainstream has yet to
                          materialize, so it is treated as if it were junk science at best, or even snake oil. So when people with money ask their scientist friends about whether they should invest in this technology, they usually get thumbs down.
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                          > You thought the war of the currents (Tesla's AC vs Edison 's DC transmission of power) was bad. Tesla won that war in his day, and has been vindicated royally for more than a century. And that was over something Tesla came up with in his early 20's. He lived to 87, inventing to the end.
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                          > Why is it so hard to consider that if Tesla was right on that one, he was most probably also right on the other work he did? And not just a little right, but royally right. Karl added today: "This was not theory. Almost every thing he talked about was proven in his day. It was demonstrated to work. But there were people that made sure that it was not brought to market; and they went
                          out of their way to even make Tesla seem to be a mad man."
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                          > Karl also remarked that a lot of this research "can be done on the cheap." So we're not talking about billions of dollars and decades of time, such as are needed for things like the Tokomak hot fusion reactor. A few millions of dollars can go very far, with much better results.
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                          > For those interested in getting involved in Tesla research, Karl recommends the book "Secrets of Cold War Technology", which addresses the fundamental steps, how Tesla discovered these things, what he did to stumble into them, and why they impacted him, and molded him. He also recommended that you get on YouTube and
                          see what has been posted there. And "Get back to Tesla's writings. He wrote some incredible stuff. Pick an area of research."
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                          > > research for over 30 years in the scientific discipline of energy and
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                          > > I have found out that a lot of things concerning developments in
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                          > > energy transformations have either been falsified or suppressed. It is not
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                          > > until about 5 years ago that I
                          realized that what I had up to then
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                          > > What do you want me to say?
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                          > > I believe in myself and I believe in
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                          > > free energy because I have proven it to myself and can prove it to
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                          > > you if you are willing. I have proof that free energy technologies
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                          > > have been suppressed from about a century ago to the moment.
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                          > > Free energy is not considered in the
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                          > > sense that you define energy in classical scientific concepts.
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                          > > It does not come from nothing, rather
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                          > > it comes from multiple interlaced energy forms.
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                          Energy is neither created nor
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                          > > destroyed: it is only transformed.
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                          > > Mind you, energy comes in one form by
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                          > > transforming another form into that which is desired.
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                          > > Our free energy sources are not Closed
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                          > > but rather intersecting and interacting systems.
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                          > > That is the way the universe is made:
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                          > > there is no closed system.
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                          > > That is where traditional science
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                          > > misleads you by defining energy in terms of a closed system. The closed system concept was intentionally introduced to mislead simple minds.
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                          > > Every energy resource is connected to
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                          > > other systems from which or to which energy flows in its myriads of
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                          > > Believe it or not, I am using free
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                          > > And you know where I Am?
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                          > > Africa.
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                          > > It does not matter what you choose to
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                          > > The truth has numerous faces. You
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                          > > choose yours and you will not be in error until your time come and
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                          > > you eyes open or turn in a different direction and you [being a judge unto yourself] exclaim: 'the truth is over there!'
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                          > > See Tpanayiotou and others, we are not
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                          > > here to impose our truths on you. We are not here to say that you are
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                          > > in error. We are only stating our perceptions and you have the right
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                          > > One more thing, a few years ago I was
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                          > > one of the most ardent opponent of anything related to what is called
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                          > > “free energy” and I could then back up my opposition with
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                          > > “fail-proof” scientific and mathematical theories, formulae and
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                          > > I Wish you the best.
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                          > > --- On Sat, 7/14/12, tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@> wrote:
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                          > > From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@>
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                          > > Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE
                          RELEASED
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                          > > To: mailto:All-Energy%40yahoogroups.com
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                          > > Date: Saturday, July 14, 2012, 4:31 AM
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                          > > Dear Dr. Fombong, if that is your real title or just one you have decided to tag on
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                          > > The Christain, Muslims, Hindus and every organised clan of Beings have taken Truths and twisted them to fit their agenda for Power and control citing the very logic you espouse to hide behind.
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                          > > --- In mailto:All-Energy%40yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@> wrote:
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                          > > > Dear Tpanayiotou,Sure what you say is true from your point of view.No one is charged with believing the information.Truth is a very relative matter, you knowRelative time, location, subject,.... But "according to
                          your faith be it unto you"Even when conduction sophisticated experiments wit sub atomic particles, you can decide the outcome of the experiment.So it's up to you.Or any one else.The weed and the wheat: its time for harvest.
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                          > > > From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@>
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                          > > > Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
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                          > > > Alas, this link seems very suspicious as it has a lot of rubbish mixed with Truths and half-truths ....a real time-waster for serious seekers of Truth. Especially all that crap about Obama being some sort of God-send evolved person, if anything the opposite is true about the lying fox, not that I think the other mix of Hyenas in the Political, Banking, Corporate bunch of Criminal Racketeers are any better!! This smacks of disinformation and volume blasting to wear peoples brains into disinterest and apathy ....or putting it more succinctly to dull peoples brains back to the TV couch !
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                        • Dr. Fombong
                          Yey! Brother Tony, Right. Seems I am sticking my neck out way too much. But NO FEAR! BEHOLD THE LIGHT! We can t hide it anymore. NOW is the time eleutheria e
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                            Yey! Brother Tony,

                            Right. Seems I am sticking my neck out way too much.
                            But NO FEAR!
                            BEHOLD THE LIGHT!
                            We can't hide it anymore.
                            NOW is the time
                            "eleutheria e thanatos" [excuse poor knowledge of ancient Greek]
                            "Liberty or death", that's what I mean
                            Bless YOU for the concern.


                            From: tony kuli panayiotou <tpanayiotou@...>
                            To: "All-Energy@yahoogroups.com" <All-Energy@yahoogroups.com>
                            Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 12:06 PM
                            Subject: Re: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED

                             
                            Sounds like you have your hands full...God speed to you!
                            Be careful not to reveal too much on these public forums, stay below the rada lest the heynas smell you out.
                             
                             
                             
                             
                             
                             
                             
                             
                             
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                            STAY INFORMED
                             


                            From: Dr. Fombong <fombongturbine@...>
                            To: "All-Energy@yahoogroups.com" <All-Energy@yahoogroups.com>
                            Sent: Friday, 20 July 2012, 15:52
                            Subject: Re: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED

                             
                            Hi Tpanayiotou,
                            My task at moment is more of doing than studying. theories have started boring me.
                            I have to earn my bread as consultant to several international bodies but this does not give me enough funds for the type of free energy research I want to get into.
                            Practical Guide to "Free Energy" Devices is a book that I have been using like a bible. It is most informative and I am highly indebted to the author who has given it to everyone for free.
                            I have also subscribed to several free energy forums which have helped guide my research.
                            In a bid to raise more funds for my free energy research, I have decided to thermally and catalytically De-polymerize abundant local waste plastics to produce gasoline and diesel for sale. I have gathered materials to construct a small batch type, 100 liter per day plant. The revenue from this may be about $50/day if I escape from being taxed or shut down entirely.
                            With haste, I may produce my first liter by August 15.
                            More later.
                            Bye
                            From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...>
                            To: All-Energy@yahoogroups.com
                            Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 9:45 PM
                            Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED

                             
                            Hello Dr.Fombong,

                            God speed and stay safe ....it's really great that you have actually duplicated some projects, after all talk is cheap.!!

                            http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf#page=128

                            The Kapanadze coil analyzed by William J. McFreey (pdf) - Starting on p. 128 of chapter 3 of Patrick J. Kelly's compilation, this article explain the working principles of Kapanadze devices. "This explanation extends to Tesla, Hubbard, Meyer, Mark, SR193. In my opinion, this is a perfect explanation and the only correct one. This 'overunity' is called... nuclear energy, no matter how it is disguised." -- Greg Pakulski (Free-Energy-Info.co.uk; May, 2012)

                            --- In mailto:All-Energy%40yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > Hi Tpanayiotou,
                            >
                            > I am so relieved that you are not on the other side of the fence.
                            > I use the cyber-cafe for my correspondence: it is safer
                            > So, your post has been downloaded for later perusal and meditation.
                            >
                            > It surprises me that no one else has posted anything on the matter.
                            > However, I hope free energy considerations are not against the objectives of our group.
                            >
                            > My recent research in free energy technologies have been focused on tesla's aerial systems [especially the TREC] and those based on the tesla coil [Don Smith and Tariel Kapanardze devices].  I have also experimented with motionless pulsed systems especially the Thane Heins transformer and the motionless generator of Richard Willis.
                            > The Rotoverter is a moving pulse system which I have duplicated with success so is the
                            > Chas Campbel/Jacob Byzehr Gravity
                            Flywheel system.
                            >
                            > I wish I could join you to the Tesla anniversary. Forgive my envy.
                            >
                            > I will get back to you once I read through your email.
                            >
                            > Best regards
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > --- On Mon, 7/16/12, tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...>
                            > Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
                            > To: mailto:All-Energy%40yahoogroups.com
                            > Date: Monday, July 16, 2012, 8:09 AM
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                            > OK Dr.Fombong enough said! It was Nokola Teslas birthday in
                            July and he is one of my heroes in regards investigating Truths as opposed to making weapons and splitting atoms ........Energy is all around us and in abundance, only the will is missing to finance how to access it and a bunch of crooks in high places sucking our finances ...if only a percentage of 700-800 Billion dollars the US military Industrial Complex uses for creating war and strife was turned to R & D the World would change over night!
                            >
                            > Anyway here is a piece by stirling d.allen in full regarding the great man whose humility few could emulate...
                            >
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                            >
                            > ''My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength, Inspiration.
                            >
                            > I have not penetrated into the secret of this core, but I know it exists.''
                            >
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                            > by Sterling D. Allan
                            >
                            > Pure Energy Systems News
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                            >
                            > As
                            mentioned the other day, on July 10, Tesla's Birthday, I'm going to be going on Coast to Coast AM to do a segment on "Tesla Today". It will be a three-hour interview with host, George Noory, beginning at 11 pm Pacific.
                            >
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                            > In anticipation of covering that subject, I thought I'd see if I could do an interview with someone who is at the top of my list of consultants on that topic, Karl Palsness, who I've known for about three years.
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                            > (P.S., later this morning, I'm also going to be interviewing another pillar along these lines, Patrick Flanagan, who I met in person in Costa Rica last year. I hope to have a write-up about that interview posted tomorrow.)
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                            > Karl is a gifted researcher who has been doing Tesla-related, overunity research and development full-time, with investment funds for a decade. He's working with several other people, and they have been
                            making great progress toward not only replicating Tesla-related technologies (the really exotic stuff from the latter half of Tesla's life) but in getting them to the point of maturation that they can be brought to market, some as soon as possibly a year.
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > Karl agreed to do an interview, which we conducted on July 3, 2012 about some of the past and present research he is doing, as well as discussing Who's Who in the field of Tesla research and commercialization, and what some of the key scientific principles are.
                            >
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                            > As I see it, there are essentially two subdivisions of Tesla's work: what he did in the first half of his life, which has become the bedrock of modern civilization: AC polyphase power, the induction motor, radio, X-ray, neon and fluorescent lighting (just to name a few); and what he worked on in the last half of his life, which involved concepts that were so far ahead of his
                            time that they weren't adapted, so he was shunned and ultimately died a pauper, at which point his notes were grabbed up by the US government, who seems to have implemented at least some of the technologies into various black budget projects such as HAARP, and the 1943 Philadelphia Experiment, the year Tesla died.
                            >
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                            >
                            > Karl was quick to point out that AC was anything but "mainstream" when Tesla first introduced it. The science establishment, headed by Edison , opposed it vigorously. And this was when Tesla was in his early twenties.
                            >
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                            > When I asked Karl about the fundamental principles behind the electrical work Tesla did in the latter half of his life, I was expecting a long and complex answer. But for Karl, it boils down to "asymmetric field of circuits" and a term Tesla coined: "longitudinal wave". "Single-event resonance" is also key.
                            >
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                            > The analogy Karl
                            used to describe the longitudinal wave was a tsunami, whose waves can travel across the ocean at speeds exceeding 600 mph -- the speed of a jumbo jet flying over the ocean. Normal ocean waves propagate slow enough that a person can run along side one on a dock. Those are very different processes, with very different causes and results.
                            >
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                            > Tsunamis are usually triggered by massive land movements within the water, such as from a large earthquake or meteorite. The large displacement then propagates horizontally away, barely displacing the surface elevation until it reaches shore, where it crests and rushes inland.
                            >
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                            > Another example Karl cited was in sound production. It takes maybe 50 Watts equivalent of power for a person to blow a trumpet, but it takes maybe a kilowatt of power for a speaker system to reproduce the same decibel level of sound, because the speaker system uses transverse
                            waves to manufacture the longitudinal waves. There is a longitudinal component that the speaker system doesn't directly produce, so it has to make up for it in power. This should be a clue to people in the sound reproduction industry about possible new designs that could reproduce the sound using little power.
                            >
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                            > Much of Tesla's latter work involved means of creating electrical longitudinal waves, through fast, abrupt change; such as through rapid spark gap discharges, or through shorting the circuit; characterizing their function, and putting them to practical use. "One of the biggest things that Tesla did was create local changes, such as a 'microbubble', or 'microvoid', which nature fills in." Tesla also played with various shapes to stimulate these effects.
                            >
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                            > In the case of electricity, some funky things happen in the process of creating the longitudinal wave. Energy shows up that was
                            not fed into the system by the operator. Tesla called this "radiant energy".
                            >
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                            >
                            > Karl said that Tesla used asymmetric circuits that involved abrupt changes of voltage or current or both. "The first half of circuit did not match second half of circuit. For example, the first half might have a low resistance, while the second half had a high resistance." The asymmetry could also be in the number of wires, or in shape. High voltage versus high current.
                            >
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                            > To put it simply: you create asymmetry, and nature steps in to restore the symmetry. The objective is that the amount of energy required to establish the asymmetry is less than the amount of energy that nature provides when restoring the symmetry. A very simple example is a dam. The amount of energy required to put the dam in place, creating an asymmetry, is returned many-fold. We should remember that Tesla was the first to build a
                            hydro-electric dam, at Niagara Falls.
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                            >
                            > Tesla stated: "To understand radiant energy, you should avoid electrons at all costs", and "Radiant energy circuits are void of electrons."
                            >
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                            >
                            > That might seem like a contradiction when talking about electricity. It certainly points to the need for some kind of mechanism to harvest that radiant energy, then transform it into the kind of electricity our devices are engineered to handle.
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                            > From what I understand, devices such as batteries and capacitors can absorb radiant energy; and, of course, are able to then deliver that power in the direct current manner consistent with their usual operation.
                            >
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                            > Karl said that in Tesla's notes from Colorado Springs , when his dome got supercharged, the ions would fly to the dome from the ionosphere. The wheelwork of nature was powering the
                            dome."
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                            > "We've witnessed that [here] in Canada ," he said.
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                            > According to Karl, the Wardenclyffe tower "was going to be the next step in energy. It was going to take the world to the next level, wirelessly, and power the world." It wasn't just going to be a transmitter, but a receiver of Radiant energy as well.
                            >
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                            > Karl also speculates that the receivers of that energy were not just receivers of the signal from Wardenclyffe, but they would become receivers of radiant energy themselves.
                            >
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                            > "My theory is that when the Wardenclyffe signal would have been received, it would make the receiver come 'alive', becoming resonant, pumping energy from the environment locally."
                            >
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                            > Karl goes so far as to say that now, with the ability of modern electronics, it is possible to make that Wardenclyffe signal
                            synthetically. The tower is actually unnecessary. A portable device can be made into a radiant energy receiver to harness that energy anywhere, whether on earth or in space. "We can make the signal locally and make the receiver come alive. After all, [even in Tesla's model,] the receiver is not receiving the energy from Wardenclyffe but from the local environment," he said by Skype today, when reviewing this story. That is the nature of the technology he and his associates are working to bring forward soon.
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                            > Energy is not the only application of transverse waves of this nature. Karl said, "You can send more data through longitudinal than transverse waves. A 1 terabyte line could be boosted to 1000 Tb." And those communications can be effectively instantaneous. There are also healing modalities that employ longitudinal waves of the Tesla variety. You can grow plants in darkness, as if in full sunlight.
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                            > In addition to some of the people working on his team, some of whom he referred to by first name, Karl listed some of the pillars in this line of research as Tom Bearden, John Bedini, Peter Lindemann, T. Henry Moray, and Stanley Meyers.
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                            > Karl is encouraged by how much Tesla research has taken off. "When I first got involved 10 years ago, there was very little on the Internet. It was almost virgin territory." Now the trend has gotten to the point of being "uncontainable" by the corrupt powers that be -- the same type of faction that put the kibosh on Tesla in his day. He sees a lot of action, especially in Russia , Turkey , and South Africa . He's even seen major scientific papers "backpedalling" on stances they once took against this type of science, coming closer to embracing it.
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                            > From his vantage point, he predicts that products along these lines will begin to appear
                            in the marketplace for customer purchase within as few as twelve months or less. Some companies are already designing for manufacturing. Some are in pre-production, doing their testing and getting certifications.
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                            > We briefly discussed the fuel-free generator from South Africa as well as Ismael Aviso's technology, which seems to be a replica of Tesla's Pierce Arrow.
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                            > The biggest obstacle, as Karl sees it, is getting adequate funding. He bemoans the fact that the rich and famous will blow millions of dollars on yachts and frivolous parties, expensive paintings, clothing and accessories, but will act like paupers when considering financing a technology that could revolutionize the planet, making life better (including cleaner) for all of us, including them.
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                            > Even though the science is nearly 100 years old, its acceptance in the mainstream has yet to
                            materialize, so it is treated as if it were junk science at best, or even snake oil. So when people with money ask their scientist friends about whether they should invest in this technology, they usually get thumbs down.
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                            > You thought the war of the currents (Tesla's AC vs Edison 's DC transmission of power) was bad. Tesla won that war in his day, and has been vindicated royally for more than a century. And that was over something Tesla came up with in his early 20's. He lived to 87, inventing to the end.
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                            > Why is it so hard to consider that if Tesla was right on that one, he was most probably also right on the other work he did? And not just a little right, but royally right. Karl added today: "This was not theory. Almost every thing he talked about was proven in his day. It was demonstrated to work. But there were people that made sure that it was not brought to market; and they went
                            out of their way to even make Tesla seem to be a mad man."
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                            > Karl also remarked that a lot of this research "can be done on the cheap." So we're not talking about billions of dollars and decades of time, such as are needed for things like the Tokomak hot fusion reactor. A few millions of dollars can go very far, with much better results.
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                            > Karl is encouraged by the worldwide awakening that is happening, as people everywhere question the status quo and realize that the "mainstream" is controlled by a corrupt faction whose days are numbered.
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                            > For those interested in getting involved in Tesla research, Karl recommends the book "Secrets of Cold War Technology", which addresses the fundamental steps, how Tesla discovered these things, what he did to stumble into them, and why they impacted him, and molded him. He also recommended that you get on YouTube and
                            see what has been posted there. And "Get back to Tesla's writings. He wrote some incredible stuff. Pick an area of research."
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                            > Karl and his group can be reached at modern_tesla@...
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                            > --- In mailto:All-Energy%40yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@> wrote:
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                            > > Hi Tpanayiotou,
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                            > > What does it matter if I am Dr. or
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                            > > Prof.?
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                            > > Please, take me for neither for that is
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                            > > not the question
                            at stake. I rather be called “slave” Fombong. If being "Doctor" is to hang unto what was hammered into me at the faculty, then I had rather forego the appellation.
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                            > > Who chooses what title I should
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                            > > Yeah, it's those who want me to believe and continue in
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                            > > outdated dogmas in the name science.
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                            > > Believe me whoever you are:
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                            > > science is dynamic and so is what you term truth.
                            >
                            > > I have done
                            >
                            > > research for over 30 years in the scientific discipline of energy and
                            >
                            > > I have found out that a lot of things concerning developments in
                            >
                            > > energy transformations have either been falsified or suppressed. It is not
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                            > > until about 5 years ago that I
                            realized that what I had up to then
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                            > > considered as truth [with regards my engineering background] was
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                            > > What do you want me to say?
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                            > > I believe in myself and I believe in
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                            > > free energy because I have proven it to myself and can prove it to
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                            > > you if you are willing. I have proof that free energy technologies
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                            > > have been suppressed from about a century ago to the moment.
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                            > > Free energy is not considered in the
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                            > > sense that you define energy in classical scientific concepts.
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                            > > It does not come from nothing, rather
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                            > > it comes from multiple interlaced energy forms.
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                            Energy is neither created nor
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                            > > destroyed: it is only transformed.
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                            > > Mind you, energy comes in one form by
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                            > > transforming another form into that which is desired.
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                            > > Our free energy sources are not Closed
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                            > > but rather intersecting and interacting systems.
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                            > > That is the way the universe is made:
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                            > > there is no closed system.
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                            > > That is where traditional science
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                            > > misleads you by defining energy in terms of a closed system. The closed system concept was intentionally introduced to mislead simple minds.
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                            > > Every energy resource is connected to
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                            > > other systems from which or to which energy flows in its myriads of
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                            > > forms.
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                            > > Believe it or not, I am using free
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                            > > energy on a daily basis.
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                            > > And you know where I Am?
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                            > > Africa.
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                            > > It does not matter what you choose to
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                            > > believe in.
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                            > > The truth has numerous faces. You
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                            > > choose yours and you will not be in error until your time come and
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                            > > you eyes open or turn in a different direction and you [being a judge unto yourself] exclaim: 'the truth is over there!'
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                            > > See Tpanayiotou and others, we are not
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                            > > here to impose our truths on you. We are not here to say that you are
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                            > > in error. We are only stating our perceptions and you have the right
                            to
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                            > > reject, investigate or accept them on faith.
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                            > > One more thing, a few years ago I was
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                            > > one of the most ardent opponent of anything related to what is called
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                            > > “free energy” and I could then back up my opposition with
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                            > > “fail-proof” scientific and mathematical theories, formulae and
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                            > > derrivations.
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                            > > I Wish you the best.
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                            > > --- On Sat, 7/14/12, tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@> wrote:
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                            > > Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE
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                            > > > Dear Tpanayiotou,Sure what you say is true from your point of view.No one is charged with believing the information.Truth is a very relative matter, you knowRelative time, location, subject,.... But "according to
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                            Not all deserve the Light my friend and God helps those who help themselves! Here s a couple of news items to keep you more busy!....
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                              Not all deserve the Light my friend and God helps those who help themselves!
                              Here's a couple of news items to keep you more busy!....

                              http://phys.org/news/2012-07-scientists-highly-transparent-solar-cells.html



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                              Examiner Editorial Policy Chooses Smut over Breakthrough Energy

                              On July 18, Breakthrough Energy Examiner, Sterling Allan, was discontinued from Examiner because he took the stance that: "Yes, sex sells, but not for reasons that bring good karma. It is not good to encourage men to gawk at other women, jeopardizing their marriages and family, and putting children at risk of being exposed to inappropriate content and behavior."



                              by Sterling D. Allan
                              Pure Energy Systems News


                              Since April of 2009, I have been the "Breakthrough Energy Examiner" for Examiner.com.

                              Over time, I've noticed that their advertisements and featured story subject matter have been increasingly lascivious (inclined to lustfulness). Consistently, at least one of the four suggested stories at the bottom of the page where I have to go to submit news content includes stories of this nature.

                              A line was crossed when I received a subscription email from them on July 14 for my friend, Fred Burks' feed, who is the US Intelligence Examiner. I love his content, but I did not appreciate the ad from Examiner.com that was borderline pornographic. It was beyond PG-13.

                              So I wrote them an email:

                              http://pesn.com/2012/07/22/9602141_Examiner_Editorial_Policy_Chooses_Smut_over_Breakthrough_Energy/

                              --- In All-Energy@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@...> wrote:
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                              > But NO FEAR!
                              > BEHOLD THE LIGHT!
                              > We can't hide it anymore.
                              > NOW is the time
                              > "eleutheria e thanatos"[excuse poor knowledge of ancient Greek]
                              > "Liberty or death", that's what I mean
                              > Bless YOU for the concern.
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > ________________________________
                              > From: tony kuli panayiotou <tpanayiotou@...>
                              > To: "All-Energy@yahoogroups.com" <All-Energy@yahoogroups.com>
                              > Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 12:06 PM
                              > Subject: Re: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
                              >
                              >
                              >  
                              > Sounds like you have your hands full...God speed to you!
                              > Be careful not to reveal too much on these public forums, stay below the rada lest the heynas smell you out.
                              >  
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                              > STAY INFORMED
                              > http://www.apfn.org/apfn/reserve.htm
                              >  
                              > http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC3F29DDAA1BABFCF
                              > http://www.thrivemovement.com/%c3%82%c2%a0%c3%82%c2%a0
                              > http://www.youtube.com/user/russiatoday?feature=results_main
                              >         http://arcticbeacon.com/books/E_C_Knuth-The_Empire_Of_The_City,1944.pdf%c3%82%c2%a0
                              >
                              >
                              > From: Dr. Fombong <fombongturbine@...>
                              > To: "All-Energy@yahoogroups.com" <All-Energy@yahoogroups.com>
                              > Sent: Friday, 20 July 2012, 15:52
                              > Subject: Re: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
                              >
                              >
                              >  
                              > Hi Tpanayiotou,
                              > My task at moment is more of doing than studying. theories have started boring me.
                              > I have to earn my bread as consultant to several international bodies but this does not give me enough funds for the type of free energy research I want to get into.
                              > Practical Guide to "Free Energy" Devices is a book that I have been using like a bible. It is most informative and I am highly indebted to the author who has given it to everyone for free.
                              > I have also subscribed to several free energy forums which have helped guide my research.
                              > In a bid to raise more funds for my free energy research, I have decided to thermally and catalytically De-polymerize abundant local waste plastics to produce gasoline and diesel for sale. I have gathered materials to construct a small batch type, 100 liter per day plant. The revenue from this may be about $50/day if I escape from being taxed or shut down entirely.
                              >
                              > With haste, I may produce my first liter by August 15.
                              >
                              > More later.
                              > Bye
                              >
                              > From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...>
                              > To: All-Energy@yahoogroups.com
                              > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 9:45 PM
                              > Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
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                              >  
                              > Hello Dr.Fombong,
                              >
                              > God speed and stay safe ....it's really great that you have actually duplicated some projects, after all talk is cheap.!!
                              >
                              > http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf#page=128
                              >
                              > The Kapanadze coil analyzed by William J. McFreey (pdf) - Starting on p. 128 of chapter 3 of Patrick J. Kelly's compilation, this article explain the working principles of Kapanadze devices. "This explanation extends to Tesla, Hubbard, Meyer, Mark, SR193. In my opinion, this is a perfect explanation and the only correct one. This 'overunity' is called... nuclear energy, no matter how it is disguised." -- Greg Pakulski (Free-Energy-Info.co.uk; May, 2012)
                              >
                              > --- In mailto:All-Energy%40yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@> wrote:
                              > >
                              > > Hi Tpanayiotou,
                              > >
                              > > I am so relieved that you are not on the other side of the fence.
                              > > I use the cyber-cafe for my correspondence: it is safer
                              > > So, your post has been downloaded for later perusal and meditation.
                              > >
                              > > It surprises me that no one else has posted anything on the matter.
                              > > However, I hope free energy considerations are not against the objectives of our group.
                              > >
                              > > My recent research in free energy technologies have been focused on tesla's aerial systems [especially the TREC] and those based on the tesla coil [Don Smith and Tariel Kapanardze devices].  I have also experimented with motionless pulsed systems especially the Thane Heins transformer and the motionless generator of Richard Willis.
                              > > The Rotoverter is a moving pulse system which I have duplicated with success so is the
                              > > Chas Campbel/Jacob Byzehr Gravity
                              > Flywheel system.
                              > >
                              > > I wish I could join you to the Tesla anniversary. Forgive my envy.
                              > >
                              > > I will get back to you once I read through your email.
                              > >
                              > > Best regards
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                              > >
                              > > --- On Mon, 7/16/12, tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@> wrote:
                              > >
                              > > From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@>
                              > > Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
                              > > To: mailto:All-Energy%40yahoogroups.com
                              > > Date: Monday, July 16, 2012, 8:09 AM
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                              > > OK Dr.Fombong enough said! It was Nokola Teslas birthday in
                              > July and he is one of my heroes in regards investigating Truths as opposed to making weapons and splitting atoms ........Energy is all around us and in abundance, only the will is missing to finance how to access it and a bunch of crooks in high places sucking our finances ...if only a percentage of 700-800 Billion dollars the US military Industrial Complex uses for creating war and strife was turned to R & D the World would change over night!
                              > >
                              > > Anyway here is a piece by stirling d.allen in full regarding the great man whose humility few could emulate...
                              > >
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                              > > ''My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength, Inspiration.
                              > >
                              > > I have not penetrated into the secret of this core, but I know it exists.''
                              > >
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                              > > by Sterling D. Allan
                              > >
                              > > Pure Energy Systems News
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                              > > As
                              > mentioned the other day, on July 10, Tesla's Birthday, I'm going to be going on Coast to Coast AM to do a segment on "Tesla Today". It will be a three-hour interview with host, George Noory, beginning at 11 pm Pacific.
                              > >
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                              > >
                              > > In anticipation of covering that subject, I thought I'd see if I could do an interview with someone who is at the top of my list of consultants on that topic, Karl Palsness, who I've known for about three years.
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                              > > (P.S., later this morning, I'm also going to be interviewing another pillar along these lines, Patrick Flanagan, who I met in person in Costa Rica last year. I hope to have a write-up about that interview posted tomorrow.)
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                              > > Karl is a gifted researcher who has been doing Tesla-related, overunity research and development full-time, with investment funds for a decade. He's working with several other people, and they have been
                              > making great progress toward not only replicating Tesla-related technologies (the really exotic stuff from the latter half of Tesla's life) but in getting them to the point of maturation that they can be brought to market, some as soon as possibly a year.
                              > >
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                              > >
                              > > Karl agreed to do an interview, which we conducted on July 3, 2012 about some of the past and present research he is doing, as well as discussing Who's Who in the field of Tesla research and commercialization, and what some of the key scientific principles are.
                              > >
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                              > > As I see it, there are essentially two subdivisions of Tesla's work: what he did in the first half of his life, which has become the bedrock of modern civilization: AC polyphase power, the induction motor, radio, X-ray, neon and fluorescent lighting (just to name a few); and what he worked on in the last half of his life, which involved concepts that were so far ahead of his
                              > time that they weren't adapted, so he was shunned and ultimately died a pauper, at which point his notes were grabbed up by the US government, who seems to have implemented at least some of the technologies into various black budget projects such as HAARP, and the 1943 Philadelphia Experiment, the year Tesla died.
                              > >
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                              > > Karl was quick to point out that AC was anything but "mainstream" when Tesla first introduced it. The science establishment, headed by Edison , opposed it vigorously. And this was when Tesla was in his early twenties.
                              > >
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                              > >
                              > > When I asked Karl about the fundamental principles behind the electrical work Tesla did in the latter half of his life, I was expecting a long and complex answer. But for Karl, it boils down to "asymmetric field of circuits" and a term Tesla coined: "longitudinal wave". "Single-event resonance" is also key.
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > The analogy Karl
                              > used to describe the longitudinal wave was a tsunami, whose waves can travel across the ocean at speeds exceeding 600 mph -- the speed of a jumbo jet flying over the ocean. Normal ocean waves propagate slow enough that a person can run along side one on a dock. Those are very different processes, with very different causes and results.
                              > >
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                              > > Tsunamis are usually triggered by massive land movements within the water, such as from a large earthquake or meteorite. The large displacement then propagates horizontally away, barely displacing the surface elevation until it reaches shore, where it crests and rushes inland.
                              > >
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                              > > Another example Karl cited was in sound production. It takes maybe 50 Watts equivalent of power for a person to blow a trumpet, but it takes maybe a kilowatt of power for a speaker system to reproduce the same decibel level of sound, because the speaker system uses transverse
                              > waves to manufacture the longitudinal waves. There is a longitudinal component that the speaker system doesn't directly produce, so it has to make up for it in power. This should be a clue to people in the sound reproduction industry about possible new designs that could reproduce the sound using little power.
                              > >
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                              > > Much of Tesla's latter work involved means of creating electrical longitudinal waves, through fast, abrupt change; such as through rapid spark gap discharges, or through shorting the circuit; characterizing their function, and putting them to practical use. "One of the biggest things that Tesla did was create local changes, such as a 'microbubble', or 'microvoid', which nature fills in." Tesla also played with various shapes to stimulate these effects.
                              > >
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                              > > In the case of electricity, some funky things happen in the process of creating the longitudinal wave. Energy shows up that was
                              > not fed into the system by the operator. Tesla called this "radiant energy".
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > Karl said that Tesla used asymmetric circuits that involved abrupt changes of voltage or current or both. "The first half of circuit did not match second half of circuit. For example, the first half might have a low resistance, while the second half had a high resistance." The asymmetry could also be in the number of wires, or in shape. High voltage versus high current.
                              > >
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                              > >
                              > > To put it simply: you create asymmetry, and nature steps in to restore the symmetry. The objective is that the amount of energy required to establish the asymmetry is less than the amount of energy that nature provides when restoring the symmetry. A very simple example is a dam. The amount of energy required to put the dam in place, creating an asymmetry, is returned many-fold. We should remember that Tesla was the first to build a
                              > hydro-electric dam, at Niagara Falls.
                              > >
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                              > > Tesla stated: "To understand radiant energy, you should avoid electrons at all costs", and "Radiant energy circuits are void of electrons."
                              > >
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                              > >
                              > > That might seem like a contradiction when talking about electricity. It certainly points to the need for some kind of mechanism to harvest that radiant energy, then transform it into the kind of electricity our devices are engineered to handle.
                              > >
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                              > > From what I understand, devices such as batteries and capacitors can absorb radiant energy; and, of course, are able to then deliver that power in the direct current manner consistent with their usual operation.
                              > >
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                              > > Karl said that in Tesla's notes from Colorado Springs , when his dome got supercharged, the ions would fly to the dome from the ionosphere. The wheelwork of nature was powering the
                              > dome."
                              > >
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                              > >
                              > > "We've witnessed that [here] in Canada ," he said.
                              > >
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                              > > According to Karl, the Wardenclyffe tower "was going to be the next step in energy. It was going to take the world to the next level, wirelessly, and power the world." It wasn't just going to be a transmitter, but a receiver of Radiant energy as well.
                              > >
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                              > >
                              > > Karl also speculates that the receivers of that energy were not just receivers of the signal from Wardenclyffe, but they would become receivers of radiant energy themselves.
                              > >
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                              > >
                              > > "My theory is that when the Wardenclyffe signal would have been received, it would make the receiver come 'alive', becoming resonant, pumping energy from the environment locally."
                              > >
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                              > > Karl goes so far as to say that now, with the ability of modern electronics, it is possible to make that Wardenclyffe signal
                              > synthetically. The tower is actually unnecessary. A portable device can be made into a radiant energy receiver to harness that energy anywhere, whether on earth or in space. "We can make the signal locally and make the receiver come alive. After all, [even in Tesla's model,] the receiver is not receiving the energy from Wardenclyffe but from the local environment," he said by Skype today, when reviewing this story. That is the nature of the technology he and his associates are working to bring forward soon.
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                              > > Energy is not the only application of transverse waves of this nature. Karl said, "You can send more data through longitudinal than transverse waves. A 1 terabyte line could be boosted to 1000 Tb." And those communications can be effectively instantaneous. There are also healing modalities that employ longitudinal waves of the Tesla variety. You can grow plants in darkness, as if in full sunlight.
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                              > > In addition to some of the people working on his team, some of whom he referred to by first name, Karl listed some of the pillars in this line of research as Tom Bearden, John Bedini, Peter Lindemann, T. Henry Moray, and Stanley Meyers.
                              > >
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                              > >
                              > > Karl is encouraged by how much Tesla research has taken off. "When I first got involved 10 years ago, there was very little on the Internet. It was almost virgin territory." Now the trend has gotten to the point of being "uncontainable" by the corrupt powers that be -- the same type of faction that put the kibosh on Tesla in his day. He sees a lot of action, especially in Russia , Turkey , and South Africa . He's even seen major scientific papers "backpedalling" on stances they once took against this type of science, coming closer to embracing it.
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                              > > From his vantage point, he predicts that products along these lines will begin to appear
                              > in the marketplace for customer purchase within as few as twelve months or less. Some companies are already designing for manufacturing. Some are in pre-production, doing their testing and getting certifications.
                              > >
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                              > >
                              > > We briefly discussed the fuel-free generator from South Africa as well as Ismael Aviso's technology, which seems to be a replica of Tesla's Pierce Arrow.
                              > >
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                              > > The biggest obstacle, as Karl sees it, is getting adequate funding. He bemoans the fact that the rich and famous will blow millions of dollars on yachts and frivolous parties, expensive paintings, clothing and accessories, but will act like paupers when considering financing a technology that could revolutionize the planet, making life better (including cleaner) for all of us, including them.
                              > >
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                              > > Even though the science is nearly 100 years old, its acceptance in the mainstream has yet to
                              > materialize, so it is treated as if it were junk science at best, or even snake oil. So when people with money ask their scientist friends about whether they should invest in this technology, they usually get thumbs down.
                              > >
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                              > >
                              > > You thought the war of the currents (Tesla's AC vs Edison 's DC transmission of power) was bad. Tesla won that war in his day, and has been vindicated royally for more than a century. And that was over something Tesla came up with in his early 20's. He lived to 87, inventing to the end.
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                              > >
                              > >
                              > > Why is it so hard to consider that if Tesla was right on that one, he was most probably also right on the other work he did? And not just a little right, but royally right. Karl added today: "This was not theory. Almost every thing he talked about was proven in his day. It was demonstrated to work. But there were people that made sure that it was not brought to market; and they went
                              > out of their way to even make Tesla seem to be a mad man."
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                              > >
                              > > Karl also remarked that a lot of this research "can be done on the cheap." So we're not talking about billions of dollars and decades of time, such as are needed for things like the Tokomak hot fusion reactor. A few millions of dollars can go very far, with much better results.
                              > >
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                              > >
                              > > Karl is encouraged by the worldwide awakening that is happening, as people everywhere question the status quo and realize that the "mainstream" is controlled by a corrupt faction whose days are numbered.
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                              > > For those interested in getting involved in Tesla research, Karl recommends the book "Secrets of Cold War Technology", which addresses the fundamental steps, how Tesla discovered these things, what he did to stumble into them, and why they impacted him, and molded him. He also recommended that you get on YouTube and
                              > see what has been posted there. And "Get back to Tesla's writings. He wrote some incredible stuff. Pick an area of research."
                              > >
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                              > > Karl and his group can be reached at modern_tesla@
                              > >
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                              > > --- In mailto:All-Energy%40yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@> wrote:
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                              > > > Hi Tpanayiotou,
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                              > > > What does it matter if I am Dr. or
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                              > > > Prof.?
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                              > > > Please, take me for neither for that is
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                              > > > not the question at
                              > stake. I rather be called “slave” Fombong. If being "Doctor" is to hang unto what was hammered into me at the faculty, then I had rather forego the appellation.
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                              > > > Who chooses what title I should
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                              > > > Yeah, it's those who want me to believe and continue in
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                              > > > outdated dogmas in the name science.
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                              > > > Believe me whoever you are:
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                              > > > science is dynamic and so is what you term truth.
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                              > > > I have done
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                              > > > research for over 30 years in the scientific discipline of energy and
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                              > > > I have found out that a lot of things concerning developments in
                              > >
                              > > > energy transformations have either been falsified or suppressed. It is not
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                              > > > until about 5 years ago that I
                              > realized that what I had up to then
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                              > > > considered as truth [with regards my engineering background] was
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                              > > > entirely illusory.
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                              > > > What do you want me to say?
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                              > > > I believe in myself and I believe in
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                              > > > free energy because I have proven it to myself and can prove it to
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                              > > > you if you are willing. I have proof that free energy technologies
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                              > > > have been suppressed from about a century ago to the moment.
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                              > > > Free energy is not considered in the
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                              > > > sense that you define energy in classical scientific concepts.
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                              > > > It does not come from nothing, rather
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                              > > > it comes from multiple interlaced energy forms.
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                              > Energy is neither created nor
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                              > > > destroyed: it is only transformed.
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                              > > > Mind you, energy comes in one form by
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                              > > > transforming another form into that which is desired.
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                              > > > Our free energy sources are not Closed
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                              > > > but rather intersecting and interacting systems.
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                              > > > That is the way the universe is made:
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                              > > > there is no closed system.
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                              > > > That is where traditional science
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                              > > > misleads you by defining energy in terms of a closed system. The closed system concept was intentionally introduced to mislead simple minds.
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                              > > > Every energy resource is connected to
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                              > > > other systems from which or to which energy flows in its myriads of
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                              > > > Believe it or not, I am using free
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                              > > > energy on a daily basis.
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                              > > > And you know where I Am?
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                              > > > Africa.
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                              > > > It does not matter what you choose to
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                              > > > believe in.
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                              > > > The truth has numerous faces. You
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                              > > > choose yours and you will not be in error until your time come and
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                              > > > you eyes open or turn in a different direction and you [being a judge unto yourself] exclaim: 'the truth is over there!'
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                              > > > See Tpanayiotou and others, we are not
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                              > > > here to impose our truths on you. We are not here to say that you are
                              > >
                              > > > in error. We are only stating our perceptions and you have the right
                              > to
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                              > > > reject, investigate or accept them on faith.
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                              > > > One more thing, a few years ago I was
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                              > > > one of the most ardent opponent of anything related to what is called
                              > >
                              > > > “free energy” and I could then back up my opposition with
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                              > > > “fail-proof” scientific and mathematical theories, formulae and
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                              > > > derrivations.
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                              > > > I Wish you the best.
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                              > > > --- On Sat, 7/14/12, tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@> wrote:
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                              > > > From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@>
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                              > > > Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE
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                              > > > To: mailto:All-Energy%40yahoogroups.com
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                              > > > > Dear Tpanayiotou,Sure what you say is true from your point of view.No one is charged with believing the information.Truth is a very relative matter, you knowRelative time, location, subject,.... But "according to
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                              Hi Tpana, You heard of the Keshe Foundation of Belgium]saying its gonna release free energy propulsion systems [using gravity and magnetism or MAGRAVS] in
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                                Hi Tpana,

                                You heard of the Keshe Foundation of Belgium]saying its gonna release free energy propulsion systems [using gravity and magnetism or MAGRAVS] in September and writing to Barak Obama about it?

                                The time for disclosure has come my brother.

                                Ever heard of the Galactic Federation or that there are other humans around us and among us [millions of times more technologically advanced than us] who are not of terrestrial origins? Our recent jumps in technologies [ELF, cellular,  Microchips, star wars weaponry, flying saucers, etc] coming from them?

                                Now's when you'll bash your skull against a wall: they will hand out for free, hand-held free-energy devices that can satisfy all your bodily needs at will and teleport you wherever you desire at a blink using advanced Stargate technology.

                                Real life brother, offers more fantasy than the human mind can grasp.
                                Yeah, but I am still skeptical: that's the scientific mind.


                                From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...>
                                To: All-Energy@yahoogroups.com
                                Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 7:24 PM
                                Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED

                                 

                                Not all deserve the Light my friend and God helps those who help themselves!
                                Here's a couple of news items to keep you more busy!....

                                http://phys.org/news/2012-07-scientists-highly-transparent-solar-cells.html

                                --------------------
                                Examiner Editorial Policy Chooses Smut over Breakthrough Energy

                                On July 18, Breakthrough Energy Examiner, Sterling Allan, was discontinued from Examiner because he took the stance that: "Yes, sex sells, but not for reasons that bring good karma. It is not good to encourage men to gawk at other women, jeopardizing their marriages and family, and putting children at risk of being exposed to inappropriate content and behavior."

                                by Sterling D. Allan
                                Pure Energy Systems News

                                Since April of 2009, I have been the "Breakthrough Energy Examiner" for Examiner.com.

                                Over time, I've noticed that their advertisements and featured story subject matter have been increasingly lascivious (inclined to lustfulness). Consistently, at least one of the four suggested stories at the bottom of the page where I have to go to submit news content includes stories of this nature.

                                A line was crossed when I received a subscription email from them on July 14 for my friend, Fred Burks' feed, who is the US Intelligence Examiner. I love his content, but I did not appreciate the ad from Examiner.com that was borderline pornographic. It was beyond PG-13.

                                So I wrote them an email:

                                http://pesn.com/2012/07/22/9602141_Examiner_Editorial_Policy_Chooses_Smut_over_Breakthrough_Energy/

                                --- In All-Energy@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@...> wrote:
                                >
                                > Yey! Brother Tony,
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                                > Right. Seems I am sticking my neck out way too much.
                                > But NO FEAR!
                                > BEHOLD THE LIGHT!
                                > We can't hide it anymore.
                                > NOW is the time
                                > "eleutheria e thanatos"[excuse poor knowledge of ancient Greek]
                                > "Liberty or death", that's what I mean
                                > Bless YOU for the concern.
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                                > From: tony kuli panayiotou <tpanayiotou@...>
                                > To: "All-Energy@yahoogroups.com" <All-Energy@yahoogroups.com>
                                > Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 12:06 PM
                                > Subject: Re: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
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                                >  
                                > Sounds like you have your hands full...God speed to you!
                                > Be careful not to reveal too much on these public forums, stay below the rada lest the heynas smell you out.
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                                > STAY INFORMED
                                > http://www.apfn.org/apfn/reserve.htm
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                                > http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC3F29DDAA1BABFCF
                                > http://www.thrivemovement.com/  
                                > http://www.youtube.com/user/russiatoday?feature=results_main
                                >         http://arcticbeacon.com/books/E_C_Knuth-The_Empire_Of_The_City,1944.pdf 
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                                > From: Dr. Fombong <fombongturbine@...>
                                > To: "All-Energy@yahoogroups.com" <All-Energy@yahoogroups.com>
                                > Sent: Friday, 20 July 2012, 15:52
                                > Subject: Re: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
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                                >  
                                > Hi Tpanayiotou,
                                > My task at moment is more of doing than studying. theories have started boring me.
                                > I have to earn my bread as consultant to several international bodies but this does not give me enough funds for the type of free energy research I want to get into.
                                > Practical Guide to "Free Energy" Devices is a book that I have been using like a bible. It is most informative and I am highly indebted to the author who has given it to everyone for free.
                                > I have also subscribed to several free energy forums which have helped guide my research.
                                > In a bid to raise more funds for my free energy research, I have decided to thermally and catalytically De-polymerize abundant local waste plastics to produce gasoline and diesel for sale. I have gathered materials to construct a small batch type, 100 liter per day plant. The revenue from this may be about $50/day if I escape from being taxed or shut down entirely.
                                >
                                > With haste, I may produce my first liter by August 15.
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                                > More later.
                                > Bye
                                >
                                > From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...>
                                > To: All-Energy@yahoogroups.com
                                > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 9:45 PM
                                > Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
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                                >  
                                > Hello Dr.Fombong,
                                >
                                > God speed and stay safe ....it's really great that you have actually duplicated some projects, after all talk is cheap.!!
                                >
                                > http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf#page=128
                                >
                                > The Kapanadze coil analyzed by William J. McFreey (pdf) - Starting on p. 128 of chapter 3 of Patrick J. Kelly's compilation, this article explain the working principles of Kapanadze devices. "This explanation extends to Tesla, Hubbard, Meyer, Mark, SR193. In my opinion, this is a perfect explanation and the only correct one. This 'overunity' is called... nuclear energy, no matter how it is disguised." -- Greg Pakulski (Free-Energy-Info.co.uk; May, 2012)
                                >
                                > --- In mailto:All-Energy%40yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@> wrote:
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                                > > Hi Tpanayiotou,
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                                > > I am so relieved that you are not on the other side of the fence.
                                > > I use the cyber-cafe for my correspondence: it is safer
                                > > So, your post has been downloaded for later perusal and meditation.
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                                > > It surprises me that no one else has posted anything on the matter.
                                > > However, I hope free energy considerations are not against the objectives of our group.
                                > >
                                > > My recent research in free energy technologies have been focused on tesla's aerial systems [especially the TREC] and those based on the tesla coil [Don Smith and Tariel Kapanardze devices].  I have also experimented with motionless pulsed systems especially the Thane Heins transformer and the motionless generator of Richard Willis.
                                > > The Rotoverter is a moving pulse system which I have duplicated with success so is the
                                > > Chas Campbel/Jacob Byzehr Gravity
                                > Flywheel system.
                                > >
                                > > I wish I could join you to the Tesla anniversary. Forgive my envy.
                                > >
                                > > I will get back to you once I read through your email.
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                                > > Best regards
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                                > > --- On Mon, 7/16/12, tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@> wrote:
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                                > > From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@>
                                > > Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
                                > > To: mailto:All-Energy%40yahoogroups.com
                                > > Date: Monday, July 16, 2012, 8:09 AM
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                                > > OK Dr.Fombong enough said! It was Nokola Teslas birthday in
                                > July and he is one of my heroes in regards investigating Truths as opposed to making weapons and splitting atoms ........Energy is all around us and in abundance, only the will is missing to finance how to access it and a bunch of crooks in high places sucking our finances ...if only a percentage of 700-800 Billion dollars the US military Industrial Complex uses for creating war and strife was turned to R & D the World would change over night!
                                > >
                                > > Anyway here is a piece by stirling d.allen in full regarding the great man whose humility few could emulate...
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                                > > ''My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength, Inspiration.
                                > >
                                > > I have not penetrated into the secret of this core, but I know it exists.''
                                > >
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                                > > by Sterling D. Allan
                                > >
                                > > Pure Energy Systems News
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                                > >
                                > > As
                                > mentioned the other day, on July 10, Tesla's Birthday, I'm going to be going on Coast to Coast AM to do a segment on "Tesla Today". It will be a three-hour interview with host, George Noory, beginning at 11 pm Pacific.
                                > >
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                                > > In anticipation of covering that subject, I thought I'd see if I could do an interview with someone who is at the top of my list of consultants on that topic, Karl Palsness, who I've known for about three years.
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                                > > (P.S., later this morning, I'm also going to be interviewing another pillar along these lines, Patrick Flanagan, who I met in person in Costa Rica last year. I hope to have a write-up about that interview posted tomorrow.)
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                                > > Karl is a gifted researcher who has been doing Tesla-related, overunity research and development full-time, with investment funds for a decade. He's working with several other people, and they have been
                                > making great progress toward not only replicating Tesla-related technologies (the really exotic stuff from the latter half of Tesla's life) but in getting them to the point of maturation that they can be brought to market, some as soon as possibly a year.
                                > >
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                                > > Karl agreed to do an interview, which we conducted on July 3, 2012 about some of the past and present research he is doing, as well as discussing Who's Who in the field of Tesla research and commercialization, and what some of the key scientific principles are.
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                                > > As I see it, there are essentially two subdivisions of Tesla's work: what he did in the first half of his life, which has become the bedrock of modern civilization: AC polyphase power, the induction motor, radio, X-ray, neon and fluorescent lighting (just to name a few); and what he worked on in the last half of his life, which involved concepts that were so far ahead of his
                                > time that they weren't adapted, so he was shunned and ultimately died a pauper, at which point his notes were grabbed up by the US government, who seems to have implemented at least some of the technologies into various black budget projects such as HAARP, and the 1943 Philadelphia Experiment, the year Tesla died.
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                                > > Karl was quick to point out that AC was anything but "mainstream" when Tesla first introduced it. The science establishment, headed by Edison , opposed it vigorously. And this was when Tesla was in his early twenties.
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                                > > When I asked Karl about the fundamental principles behind the electrical work Tesla did in the latter half of his life, I was expecting a long and complex answer. But for Karl, it boils down to "asymmetric field of circuits" and a term Tesla coined: "longitudinal wave". "Single-event resonance" is also key.
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                                > > The analogy Karl
                                > used to describe the longitudinal wave was a tsunami, whose waves can travel across the ocean at speeds exceeding 600 mph -- the speed of a jumbo jet flying over the ocean. Normal ocean waves propagate slow enough that a person can run along side one on a dock. Those are very different processes, with very different causes and results.
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                                > > Tsunamis are usually triggered by massive land movements within the water, such as from a large earthquake or meteorite. The large displacement then propagates horizontally away, barely displacing the surface elevation until it reaches shore, where it crests and rushes inland.
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                                > > Another example Karl cited was in sound production. It takes maybe 50 Watts equivalent of power for a person to blow a trumpet, but it takes maybe a kilowatt of power for a speaker system to reproduce the same decibel level of sound, because the speaker system uses transverse
                                > waves to manufacture the longitudinal waves. There is a longitudinal component that the speaker system doesn't directly produce, so it has to make up for it in power. This should be a clue to people in the sound reproduction industry about possible new designs that could reproduce the sound using little power.
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                                > > Much of Tesla's latter work involved means of creating electrical longitudinal waves, through fast, abrupt change; such as through rapid spark gap discharges, or through shorting the circuit; characterizing their function, and putting them to practical use. "One of the biggest things that Tesla did was create local changes, such as a 'microbubble', or 'microvoid', which nature fills in." Tesla also played with various shapes to stimulate these effects.
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                                > > In the case of electricity, some funky things happen in the process of creating the longitudinal wave. Energy shows up that was
                                > not fed into the system by the operator. Tesla called this "radiant energy".
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                                > > Karl said that Tesla used asymmetric circuits that involved abrupt changes of voltage or current or both. "The first half of circuit did not match second half of circuit. For example, the first half might have a low resistance, while the second half had a high resistance." The asymmetry could also be in the number of wires, or in shape. High voltage versus high current.
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                                > > To put it simply: you create asymmetry, and nature steps in to restore the symmetry. The objective is that the amount of energy required to establish the asymmetry is less than the amount of energy that nature provides when restoring the symmetry. A very simple example is a dam. The amount of energy required to put the dam in place, creating an asymmetry, is returned many-fold. We should remember that Tesla was the first to build a
                                > hydro-electric dam, at Niagara Falls.
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                                > > Tesla stated: "To understand radiant energy, you should avoid electrons at all costs", and "Radiant energy circuits are void of electrons."
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                                > > That might seem like a contradiction when talking about electricity. It certainly points to the need for some kind of mechanism to harvest that radiant energy, then transform it into the kind of electricity our devices are engineered to handle.
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                                > > From what I understand, devices such as batteries and capacitors can absorb radiant energy; and, of course, are able to then deliver that power in the direct current manner consistent with their usual operation.
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                                > > Karl said that in Tesla's notes from Colorado Springs , when his dome got supercharged, the ions would fly to the dome from the ionosphere. The wheelwork of nature was powering the
                                > dome."
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                                > > "We've witnessed that [here] in Canada ," he said.
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                                > > According to Karl, the Wardenclyffe tower "was going to be the next step in energy. It was going to take the world to the next level, wirelessly, and power the world." It wasn't just going to be a transmitter, but a receiver of Radiant energy as well.
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                                > > Karl also speculates that the receivers of that energy were not just receivers of the signal from Wardenclyffe, but they would become receivers of radiant energy themselves.
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                                > > "My theory is that when the Wardenclyffe signal would have been received, it would make the receiver come 'alive', becoming resonant, pumping energy from the environment locally."
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                                > > Karl goes so far as to say that now, with the ability of modern electronics, it is possible to make that Wardenclyffe signal
                                > synthetically. The tower is actually unnecessary. A portable device can be made into a radiant energy receiver to harness that energy anywhere, whether on earth or in space. "We can make the signal locally and make the receiver come alive. After all, [even in Tesla's model,] the receiver is not receiving the energy from Wardenclyffe but from the local environment," he said by Skype today, when reviewing this story. That is the nature of the technology he and his associates are working to bring forward soon.
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                                > > Energy is not the only application of transverse waves of this nature. Karl said, "You can send more data through longitudinal than transverse waves. A 1 terabyte line could be boosted to 1000 Tb." And those communications can be effectively instantaneous. There are also healing modalities that employ longitudinal waves of the Tesla variety. You can grow plants in darkness, as if in full sunlight.
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                                > > In addition to some of the people working on his team, some of whom he referred to by first name, Karl listed some of the pillars in this line of research as Tom Bearden, John Bedini, Peter Lindemann, T. Henry Moray, and Stanley Meyers.
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                                > > Karl is encouraged by how much Tesla research has taken off. "When I first got involved 10 years ago, there was very little on the Internet. It was almost virgin territory." Now the trend has gotten to the point of being "uncontainable" by the corrupt powers that be -- the same type of faction that put the kibosh on Tesla in his day. He sees a lot of action, especially in Russia , Turkey , and South Africa . He's even seen major scientific papers "backpedalling" on stances they once took against this type of science, coming closer to embracing it.
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                                > > From his vantage point, he predicts that products along these lines will begin to appear
                                > in the marketplace for customer purchase within as few as twelve months or less. Some companies are already designing for manufacturing. Some are in pre-production, doing their testing and getting certifications.
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                                > > We briefly discussed the fuel-free generator from South Africa as well as Ismael Aviso's technology, which seems to be a replica of Tesla's Pierce Arrow.
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                                > > The biggest obstacle, as Karl sees it, is getting adequate funding. He bemoans the fact that the rich and famous will blow millions of dollars on yachts and frivolous parties, expensive paintings, clothing and accessories, but will act like paupers when considering financing a technology that could revolutionize the planet, making life better (including cleaner) for all of us, including them.
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                                > > Even though the science is nearly 100 years old, its acceptance in the mainstream has yet to
                                > materialize, so it is treated as if it were junk science at best, or even snake oil. So when people with money ask their scientist friends about whether they should invest in this technology, they usually get thumbs down.
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                                > > You thought the war of the currents (Tesla's AC vs Edison 's DC transmission of power) was bad. Tesla won that war in his day, and has been vindicated royally for more than a century. And that was over something Tesla came up with in his early 20's. He lived to 87, inventing to the end.
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                                > > Why is it so hard to consider that if Tesla was right on that one, he was most probably also right on the other work he did? And not just a little right, but royally right. Karl added today: "This was not theory. Almost every thing he talked about was proven in his day. It was demonstrated to work. But there were people that made sure that it was not brought to market; and they went
                                > out of their way to even make Tesla seem to be a mad man."
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                                > > Karl also remarked that a lot of this research "can be done on the cheap." So we're not talking about billions of dollars and decades of time, such as are needed for things like the Tokomak hot fusion reactor. A few millions of dollars can go very far, with much better results.
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                                > > Karl is encouraged by the worldwide awakening that is happening, as people everywhere question the status quo and realize that the "mainstream" is controlled by a corrupt faction whose days are numbered.
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                                > > For those interested in getting involved in Tesla research, Karl recommends the book "Secrets of Cold War Technology", which addresses the fundamental steps, how Tesla discovered these things, what he did to stumble into them, and why they impacted him, and molded him. He also recommended that you get on YouTube and
                                > see what has been posted there. And "Get back to Tesla's writings. He wrote some incredible stuff. Pick an area of research."
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                                > > Karl and his group can be reached at modern_tesla@
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                                > > --- In mailto:All-Energy%40yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@> wrote:
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                                > > > What does it matter if I am Dr. or
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                                > > > Please, take me for neither for that is
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                                > stake. I rather be called “slave” Fombong. If being "Doctor" is to hang unto what was hammered into me at the faculty, then I had rather forego the appellation.
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                                > > > Yeah, it's those who want me to believe and continue in
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                                > > > outdated dogmas in the name science.
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                                > > > Believe me whoever you are:
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                                > > > science is dynamic and so is what you term truth.
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                                > > > I have done
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                                > > > research for over 30 years in the scientific discipline of energy and
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                                > > > I have found out that a lot of things concerning developments in
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                                > > > energy transformations have either been falsified or suppressed. It is not
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                                > > > until about 5 years ago that I
                                > realized that what I had up to then
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                                > > > What do you want me to say?
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                                > > > I believe in myself and I believe in
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                                > > > free energy because I have proven it to myself and can prove it to
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                                > > > you if you are willing. I have proof that free energy technologies
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                                > > > have been suppressed from about a century ago to the moment.
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                                > > > Free energy is not considered in the
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                                > > > sense that you define energy in classical scientific concepts.
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                                > > > It does not come from nothing, rather
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                                > > > it comes from multiple interlaced energy forms.
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                                > Energy is neither created nor
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                                > > > destroyed: it is only transformed.
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                                > > > Mind you, energy comes in one form by
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                                > > > transforming another form into that which is desired.
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                                > > > Our free energy sources are not Closed
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                                > > > but rather intersecting and interacting systems.
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                                > > > That is the way the universe is made:
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                                > > > there is no closed system.
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                                > > > That is where traditional science
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                                > > > misleads you by defining energy in terms of a closed system. The closed system concept was intentionally introduced to mislead simple minds.
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                                > > > Every energy resource is connected to
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                                > > > other systems from which or to which energy flows in its myriads of
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                                > > > Believe it or not, I am using free
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                                > > > energy on a daily basis.
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                                > > > And you know where I Am?
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                                > > > Africa.
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                                > > > It does not matter what you choose to
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                                > > > The truth has numerous faces. You
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                                > > > --- On Sat, 7/14/12, tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@> wrote:
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                                > > > From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@>
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                                > > > Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE
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                                > > > To: mailto:All-Energy%40yahoogroups.com
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                                > > > Date: Saturday, July 14, 2012, 4:31 AM
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                                > > > Dear Dr. Fombong, if that is your real title or just one you have decided to tag on
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                                > > > Our task as Scientists is to find and identify these eternal Truths and work around their parameters, be they material, emotional , mental or Spirirtual. What may seem as grey area to us today may just be a distortion or lack of perception due to lack of growth.
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                                > > > The Christain, Muslims, Hindus and every organised clan of Beings have taken Truths and twisted them to fit their agenda for Power and control citing the very logic you espouse to hide behind.
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                                > > > --- In mailto:All-Energy%40yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@> wrote:
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                                > > > > Dear Tpanayiotou,Sure what you say is true from your point of view.No one is charged with believing the information.Truth is a very relative matter, you knowRelative time, location, subject,.... But "according to
                                > your faith be it unto you"Even when conduction sophisticated experiments wit sub atomic particles, you can decide the outcome of the experiment.So it's up to you.Or any one else.The weed and the wheat: its time for harvest.
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                                > > > > From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@>
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                                > > > > Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
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                                > > > > Alas, this link seems very suspicious as it has a lot of rubbish mixed with Truths and half-truths ....a real time-waster for serious seekers of Truth. Especially all that crap about Obama being some sort of God-send evolved person, if anything the opposite is true about the lying fox, not that I think the other mix of Hyenas in the Political, Banking, Corporate bunch of Criminal Racketeers are any better!! This smacks of disinformation and volume blasting to wear peoples brains into disinterest and apathy ....or putting it more succinctly to dull peoples brains back to the TV couch !
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                              • tpanayiotou
                                Fools !!! They wrote to Bama...well Corporation Man will surely put a stop to all that!
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                                  Fools !!! They wrote to 'Bama...well Corporation Man will surely put a stop to all that!

                                  --- In All-Energy@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@...> wrote:
                                  >
                                  > Hi Tpana,
                                  >
                                  > You heard of the Keshe Foundation of Belgium]saying its gonna release free energy propulsion systems [using gravity and magnetism or MAGRAVS] in September and writing to Barak Obama about it?
                                  >
                                  > The time for disclosure has come my brother.
                                  >
                                  > Ever heard of the Galactic Federation or that there are other humans around us and among us [millions of times more technologically advanced than us] who are not of terrestrial origins? Our recent jumps in technologies [ELF, cellular,  Microchips, star wars weaponry, flying saucers, etc] coming from them?
                                  >
                                  > Now's when you'll bash your skull against a wall: they will hand out for free, hand-held free-energy devices that can satisfy all your bodily needs at will and teleport you wherever you desire at a blink using advanced Stargate technology.
                                  >
                                  > Real life brother, offers more fantasy than the human mind can grasp.
                                  > Yeah, but I am still skeptical: that's the scientific mind.
                                  >
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                                  >
                                  > ________________________________
                                  > From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...>
                                  > To: All-Energy@yahoogroups.com
                                  > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 7:24 PM
                                  > Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
                                  >
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                                  >  
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                                  > Not all deserve the Light my friend and God helps those who help themselves!
                                  > Here's a couple of news items to keep you more busy!....
                                  >
                                  > http://phys.org/news/2012-07-scientists-highly-transparent-solar-cells.html
                                  >
                                  > --------------------
                                  > Examiner Editorial Policy Chooses Smut over Breakthrough Energy
                                  >
                                  > On July 18, Breakthrough Energy Examiner, Sterling Allan, was discontinued from Examiner because he took the stance that: "Yes, sex sells, but not for reasons that bring good karma. It is not good to encourage men to gawk at other women, jeopardizing their marriages and family, and putting children at risk of being exposed to inappropriate content and behavior."
                                  >
                                  > by Sterling D. Allan
                                  > Pure Energy Systems News
                                  >
                                  > Since April of 2009, I have been the "Breakthrough Energy Examiner" for Examiner.com.
                                  >
                                  > Over time, I've noticed that their advertisements and featured story subject matter have been increasingly lascivious (inclined to lustfulness). Consistently, at least one of the four suggested stories at the bottom of the page where I have to go to submit news content includes stories of this nature.
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                                  > A line was crossed when I received a subscription email from them on July 14 for my friend, Fred Burks' feed, who is the US Intelligence Examiner. I love his content, but I did not appreciate the ad from Examiner.com that was borderline pornographic. It was beyond PG-13.
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                                  > So I wrote them an email:
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                                  > http://pesn.com/2012/07/22/9602141_Examiner_Editorial_Policy_Chooses_Smut_over_Breakthrough_Energy/
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                                  > --- In All-Energy@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@> wrote:
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                                  > > Yey! Brother Tony,
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                                  > > Right. Seems I am sticking my neck out way too much.
                                  > > But NO FEAR!
                                  > > BEHOLD THE LIGHT!
                                  > > We can't hide it anymore.
                                  > > NOW is the time
                                  > > "eleutheria e thanatos"[excuse poor knowledge of ancient Greek]
                                  > > "Liberty or death", that's what I mean
                                  > > Bless YOU for the concern.
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                                  > > ________________________________
                                  > > From: tony kuli panayiotou <tpanayiotou@>
                                  > > To: "All-Energy@yahoogroups.com" <All-Energy@yahoogroups.com>
                                  > > Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 12:06 PM
                                  > > Subject: Re: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
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                                  > >  
                                  > > Sounds like you have your hands full...God speed to you!
                                  > > Be careful not to reveal too much on these public forums, stay below the rada lest the heynas smell you out.
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                                  > > STAY INFORMED
                                  > > http://www.apfn.org/apfn/reserve.htm
                                  > >  
                                  > > http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC3F29DDAA1BABFCF
                                  > > http://www.thrivemovement.com/%c3%82%c2%a0%c3%82%c2%a0
                                  > > http://www.youtube.com/user/russiatoday?feature=results_main
                                  > >         http://arcticbeacon.com/books/E_C_Knuth-The_Empire_Of_The_City,1944.pdf%c3%82%c2%a0
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                                  > > From: Dr. Fombong <fombongturbine@>
                                  > > To: "All-Energy@yahoogroups.com" <All-Energy@yahoogroups.com>
                                  > > Sent: Friday, 20 July 2012, 15:52
                                  > > Subject: Re: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
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                                  > >  
                                  > > Hi Tpanayiotou,
                                  > > My task at moment is more of doing than studying. theories have started boring me.
                                  > > I have to earn my bread as consultant to several international bodies but this does not give me enough funds for the type of free energy research I want to get into.
                                  > > Practical Guide to "Free Energy" Devices is a book that I have been using like a bible. It is most informative and I am highly indebted to the author who has given it to everyone for free.
                                  > > I have also subscribed to several free energy forums which have helped guide my research.
                                  > > In a bid to raise more funds for my free energy research, I have decided to thermally and catalytically De-polymerize abundant local waste plastics to produce gasoline and diesel for sale. I have gathered materials to construct a small batch type, 100 liter per day plant. The revenue from this may be about $50/day if I escape from being taxed or shut down entirely.
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                                  > > With haste, I may produce my first liter by August 15.
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                                  > > More later.
                                  > > Bye
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                                  > > From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@>
                                  > > To: All-Energy@yahoogroups.com
                                  > > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 9:45 PM
                                  > > Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
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                                  > >  
                                  > > Hello Dr.Fombong,
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                                  > > God speed and stay safe ....it's really great that you have actually duplicated some projects, after all talk is cheap.!!
                                  > >
                                  > > http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf#page=128
                                  > >
                                  > > The Kapanadze coil analyzed by William J. McFreey (pdf) - Starting on p. 128 of chapter 3 of Patrick J. Kelly's compilation, this article explain the working principles of Kapanadze devices. "This explanation extends to Tesla, Hubbard, Meyer, Mark, SR193. In my opinion, this is a perfect explanation and the only correct one. This 'overunity' is called... nuclear energy, no matter how it is disguised." -- Greg Pakulski (Free-Energy-Info.co.uk; May, 2012)
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                                  > > --- In mailto:All-Energy%40yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@> wrote:
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                                  > > > Hi Tpanayiotou,
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                                  > > > I am so relieved that you are not on the other side of the fence.
                                  > > > I use the cyber-cafe for my correspondence: it is safer
                                  > > > So, your post has been downloaded for later perusal and meditation.
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                                  > > > It surprises me that no one else has posted anything on the matter.
                                  > > > However, I hope free energy considerations are not against the objectives of our group.
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                                  > > > My recent research in free energy technologies have been focused on tesla's aerial systems [especially the TREC] and those based on the tesla coil [Don Smith and Tariel Kapanardze devices].  I have also experimented with motionless pulsed systems especially the Thane Heins transformer and the motionless generator of Richard Willis.
                                  > > > The Rotoverter is a moving pulse system which I have duplicated with success so is the
                                  > > > Chas Campbel/Jacob Byzehr Gravity
                                  > > Flywheel system.
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                                  > > > I wish I could join you to the Tesla anniversary. Forgive my envy.
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                                  > > > I will get back to you once I read through your email.
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                                  > > > Best regards
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                                  > > > --- On Mon, 7/16/12, tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@> wrote:
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                                  > > > From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@>
                                  > > > Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
                                  > > > To: mailto:All-Energy%40yahoogroups.com
                                  > > > Date: Monday, July 16, 2012, 8:09 AM
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                                  > > > OK Dr.Fombong enough said! It was Nokola Teslas birthday in
                                  > > July and he is one of my heroes in regards investigating Truths as opposed to making weapons and splitting atoms ........Energy is all around us and in abundance, only the will is missing to finance how to access it and a bunch of crooks in high places sucking our finances ...if only a percentage of 700-800 Billion dollars the US military Industrial Complex uses for creating war and strife was turned to R & D the World would change over night!
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                                  > > > Anyway here is a piece by stirling d.allen in full regarding the great man whose humility few could emulate...
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                                  > > > ''My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength, Inspiration.
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                                  > > > I have not penetrated into the secret of this core, but I know it exists.''
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                                  > > > by Sterling D. Allan
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                                  > > > Pure Energy Systems News
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                                  > > > As
                                  > > mentioned the other day, on July 10, Tesla's Birthday, I'm going to be going on Coast to Coast AM to do a segment on "Tesla Today". It will be a three-hour interview with host, George Noory, beginning at 11 pm Pacific.
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                                  > > > In anticipation of covering that subject, I thought I'd see if I could do an interview with someone who is at the top of my list of consultants on that topic, Karl Palsness, who I've known for about three years.
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                                  > > > (P.S., later this morning, I'm also going to be interviewing another pillar along these lines, Patrick Flanagan, who I met in person in Costa Rica last year. I hope to have a write-up about that interview posted tomorrow.)
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                                  > > > Karl is a gifted researcher who has been doing Tesla-related, overunity research and development full-time, with investment funds for a decade. He's working with several other people, and they have been
                                  > > making great progress toward not only replicating Tesla-related technologies (the really exotic stuff from the latter half of Tesla's life) but in getting them to the point of maturation that they can be brought to market, some as soon as possibly a year.
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                                  > > > Karl agreed to do an interview, which we conducted on July 3, 2012 about some of the past and present research he is doing, as well as discussing Who's Who in the field of Tesla research and commercialization, and what some of the key scientific principles are.
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                                  > > > As I see it, there are essentially two subdivisions of Tesla's work: what he did in the first half of his life, which has become the bedrock of modern civilization: AC polyphase power, the induction motor, radio, X-ray, neon and fluorescent lighting (just to name a few); and what he worked on in the last half of his life, which involved concepts that were so far ahead of his
                                  > > time that they weren't adapted, so he was shunned and ultimately died a pauper, at which point his notes were grabbed up by the US government, who seems to have implemented at least some of the technologies into various black budget projects such as HAARP, and the 1943 Philadelphia Experiment, the year Tesla died.
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                                  > > > Karl was quick to point out that AC was anything but "mainstream" when Tesla first introduced it. The science establishment, headed by Edison , opposed it vigorously. And this was when Tesla was in his early twenties.
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                                  > > > When I asked Karl about the fundamental principles behind the electrical work Tesla did in the latter half of his life, I was expecting a long and complex answer. But for Karl, it boils down to "asymmetric field of circuits" and a term Tesla coined: "longitudinal wave". "Single-event resonance" is also key.
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                                  > > used to describe the longitudinal wave was a tsunami, whose waves can travel across the ocean at speeds exceeding 600 mph -- the speed of a jumbo jet flying over the ocean. Normal ocean waves propagate slow enough that a person can run along side one on a dock. Those are very different processes, with very different causes and results.
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                                  > > > Tsunamis are usually triggered by massive land movements within the water, such as from a large earthquake or meteorite. The large displacement then propagates horizontally away, barely displacing the surface elevation until it reaches shore, where it crests and rushes inland.
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                                  > > > Another example Karl cited was in sound production. It takes maybe 50 Watts equivalent of power for a person to blow a trumpet, but it takes maybe a kilowatt of power for a speaker system to reproduce the same decibel level of sound, because the speaker system uses transverse
                                  > > waves to manufacture the longitudinal waves. There is a longitudinal component that the speaker system doesn't directly produce, so it has to make up for it in power. This should be a clue to people in the sound reproduction industry about possible new designs that could reproduce the sound using little power.
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                                  > > > Much of Tesla's latter work involved means of creating electrical longitudinal waves, through fast, abrupt change; such as through rapid spark gap discharges, or through shorting the circuit; characterizing their function, and putting them to practical use. "One of the biggest things that Tesla did was create local changes, such as a 'microbubble', or 'microvoid', which nature fills in." Tesla also played with various shapes to stimulate these effects.
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                                  > > > In the case of electricity, some funky things happen in the process of creating the longitudinal wave. Energy shows up that was
                                  > > not fed into the system by the operator. Tesla called this "radiant energy".
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                                  > > > Karl said that Tesla used asymmetric circuits that involved abrupt changes of voltage or current or both. "The first half of circuit did not match second half of circuit. For example, the first half might have a low resistance, while the second half had a high resistance." The asymmetry could also be in the number of wires, or in shape. High voltage versus high current.
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                                  > > > To put it simply: you create asymmetry, and nature steps in to restore the symmetry. The objective is that the amount of energy required to establish the asymmetry is less than the amount of energy that nature provides when restoring the symmetry. A very simple example is a dam. The amount of energy required to put the dam in place, creating an asymmetry, is returned many-fold. We should remember that Tesla was the first to build a
                                  > > hydro-electric dam, at Niagara Falls.
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                                  > > > Tesla stated: "To understand radiant energy, you should avoid electrons at all costs", and "Radiant energy circuits are void of electrons."
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                                  > > > That might seem like a contradiction when talking about electricity. It certainly points to the need for some kind of mechanism to harvest that radiant energy, then transform it into the kind of electricity our devices are engineered to handle.
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                                  > > > From what I understand, devices such as batteries and capacitors can absorb radiant energy; and, of course, are able to then deliver that power in the direct current manner consistent with their usual operation.
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                                  > > > Karl said that in Tesla's notes from Colorado Springs , when his dome got supercharged, the ions would fly to the dome from the ionosphere. The wheelwork of nature was powering the
                                  > > dome."
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                                  > > > "We've witnessed that [here] in Canada ," he said.
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                                  > > > According to Karl, the Wardenclyffe tower "was going to be the next step in energy. It was going to take the world to the next level, wirelessly, and power the world." It wasn't just going to be a transmitter, but a receiver of Radiant energy as well.
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                                  > > > Karl also speculates that the receivers of that energy were not just receivers of the signal from Wardenclyffe, but they would become receivers of radiant energy themselves.
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                                  > > > "My theory is that when the Wardenclyffe signal would have been received, it would make the receiver come 'alive', becoming resonant, pumping energy from the environment locally."
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                                  > > > Karl goes so far as to say that now, with the ability of modern electronics, it is possible to make that Wardenclyffe signal
                                  > > synthetically. The tower is actually unnecessary. A portable device can be made into a radiant energy receiver to harness that energy anywhere, whether on earth or in space. "We can make the signal locally and make the receiver come alive. After all, [even in Tesla's model,] the receiver is not receiving the energy from Wardenclyffe but from the local environment," he said by Skype today, when reviewing this story. That is the nature of the technology he and his associates are working to bring forward soon.
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                                  > > > Energy is not the only application of transverse waves of this nature. Karl said, "You can send more data through longitudinal than transverse waves. A 1 terabyte line could be boosted to 1000 Tb." And those communications can be effectively instantaneous. There are also healing modalities that employ longitudinal waves of the Tesla variety. You can grow plants in darkness, as if in full sunlight.
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                                  > > > In addition to some of the people working on his team, some of whom he referred to by first name, Karl listed some of the pillars in this line of research as Tom Bearden, John Bedini, Peter Lindemann, T. Henry Moray, and Stanley Meyers.
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                                  > > > Karl is encouraged by how much Tesla research has taken off. "When I first got involved 10 years ago, there was very little on the Internet. It was almost virgin territory." Now the trend has gotten to the point of being "uncontainable" by the corrupt powers that be -- the same type of faction that put the kibosh on Tesla in his day. He sees a lot of action, especially in Russia , Turkey , and South Africa . He's even seen major scientific papers "backpedalling" on stances they once took against this type of science, coming closer to embracing it.
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                                  > > > From his vantage point, he predicts that products along these lines will begin to appear
                                  > > in the marketplace for customer purchase within as few as twelve months or less. Some companies are already designing for manufacturing. Some are in pre-production, doing their testing and getting certifications.
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                                  > > > We briefly discussed the fuel-free generator from South Africa as well as Ismael Aviso's technology, which seems to be a replica of Tesla's Pierce Arrow.
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                                  > > > The biggest obstacle, as Karl sees it, is getting adequate funding. He bemoans the fact that the rich and famous will blow millions of dollars on yachts and frivolous parties, expensive paintings, clothing and accessories, but will act like paupers when considering financing a technology that could revolutionize the planet, making life better (including cleaner) for all of us, including them.
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                                  > > > Even though the science is nearly 100 years old, its acceptance in the mainstream has yet to
                                  > > materialize, so it is treated as if it were junk science at best, or even snake oil. So when people with money ask their scientist friends about whether they should invest in this technology, they usually get thumbs down.
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                                  > > > You thought the war of the currents (Tesla's AC vs Edison 's DC transmission of power) was bad. Tesla won that war in his day, and has been vindicated royally for more than a century. And that was over something Tesla came up with in his early 20's. He lived to 87, inventing to the end.
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                                  > > > Why is it so hard to consider that if Tesla was right on that one, he was most probably also right on the other work he did? And not just a little right, but royally right. Karl added today: "This was not theory. Almost every thing he talked about was proven in his day. It was demonstrated to work. But there were people that made sure that it was not brought to market; and they went
                                  > > out of their way to even make Tesla seem to be a mad man."
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                                  > > > Karl also remarked that a lot of this research "can be done on the cheap." So we're not talking about billions of dollars and decades of time, such as are needed for things like the Tokomak hot fusion reactor. A few millions of dollars can go very far, with much better results.
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                                  > > > Karl is encouraged by the worldwide awakening that is happening, as people everywhere question the status quo and realize that the "mainstream" is controlled by a corrupt faction whose days are numbered.
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                                  > > > For those interested in getting involved in Tesla research, Karl recommends the book "Secrets of Cold War Technology", which addresses the fundamental steps, how Tesla discovered these things, what he did to stumble into them, and why they impacted him, and molded him. He also recommended that you get on YouTube and
                                  > > see what has been posted there. And "Get back to Tesla's writings. He wrote some incredible stuff. Pick an area of research."
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                                  > > > Karl and his group can be reached at modern_tesla@
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                                  > > > --- In mailto:All-Energy%40yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@> wrote:
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                                  > > > > Hi Tpanayiotou,
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                                  > > > > What does it matter if I am Dr. or
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                                  > > > > Prof.?
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                                  > > > > Please, take me for neither for that is
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                                  > > > > not the question at
                                  > > stake. I rather be called “slave” Fombong. If being "Doctor" is to hang unto what was hammered into me at the faculty, then I had rather forego the appellation.
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                                  > > > > Who chooses what title I should
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                                  > > > > Yeah, it's those who want me to believe and continue in
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                                  > > > > outdated dogmas in the name science.
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                                  > > > > Believe me whoever you are:
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                                  > > > > science is dynamic and so is what you term truth.
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                                  > > > > I have done
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                                  > > > > research for over 30 years in the scientific discipline of energy and
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                                  > > > > I have found out that a lot of things concerning developments in
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                                  > > > > energy transformations have either been falsified or suppressed. It is not
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                                  > > > > until about 5 years ago that I
                                  > > realized that what I had up to then
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                                  > > > > considered as truth [with regards my engineering background] was
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                                  > > > > entirely illusory.
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                                  > > > > What do you want me to say?
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                                  > > > > I believe in myself and I believe in
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                                  > > > > free energy because I have proven it to myself and can prove it to
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                                  > > > > you if you are willing. I have proof that free energy technologies
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                                  > > > > have been suppressed from about a century ago to the moment.
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                                  > > > > Free energy is not considered in the
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                                  > > > > sense that you define energy in classical scientific concepts.
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                                  > > > > It does not come from nothing, rather
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                                  > > > > it comes from multiple interlaced energy forms.
                                  > > >
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                                  > > Energy is neither created nor
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                                  > > > > destroyed: it is only transformed.
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                                  > > > > Mind you, energy comes in one form by
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                                  > > > > transforming another form into that which is desired.
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                                  > > > > Our free energy sources are not Closed
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                                  > > > > but rather intersecting and interacting systems.
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                                  > > > > That is the way the universe is made:
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                                  > > > > there is no closed system.
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                                  > > > > That is where traditional science
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                                  > > > > misleads you by defining energy in terms of a closed system. The closed system concept was intentionally introduced to mislead simple minds.
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                                  > > > > Every energy resource is connected to
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                                  > > > > other systems from which or to which energy flows in its myriads of
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                                  > > > > forms.
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                                  > > > > Believe it or not, I am using free
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                                  > > > > energy on a daily basis.
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                                  > > > > And you know where I Am?
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                                  > > > > Africa.
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                                  > > > > It does not matter what you choose to
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                                  > > > > believe in.
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                                  > > > > The truth has numerous faces. You
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                                  > > > > choose yours and you will not be in error until your time come and
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                                  > > > > you eyes open or turn in a different direction and you [being a judge unto yourself] exclaim: 'the truth is over there!'
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                                  > > > > See Tpanayiotou and others, we are not
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                                  > > > > here to impose our truths on you. We are not here to say that you are
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                                  > > > > in error. We are only stating our perceptions and you have the right
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                                  > > > > reject, investigate or accept them on faith.
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                                  > > > > One more thing, a few years ago I was
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                                  > > > > one of the most ardent opponent of anything related to what is called
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                                  > > > > “free energy” and I could then back up my opposition with
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                                  > > > > “fail-proof” scientific and mathematical theories, formulae and
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                                  > > > > derrivations.
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                                  > > > > I Wish you the best.
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                                  > > > > --- On Sat, 7/14/12, tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@> wrote:
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                                  > > > > From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@>
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                                  > > > > Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE
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                                  > > > > To: mailto:All-Energy%40yahoogroups.com
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                                  > > > > Date: Saturday, July 14, 2012, 4:31 AM
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                                  > > > > Dear Dr. Fombong, if that is your real title or just one you have decided to tag on
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                                  > > > > Some Truths are Primordial and cannot be changed or debated about by Humans or anyone else and around these is a sea of flexibility.
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                                  > > > > Our task as Scientists is to find and identify these eternal Truths and work around their parameters, be they material, emotional , mental or Spirirtual. What may seem as grey area to us today may just be a distortion or lack of perception due to lack of growth.
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                                  > > > > When we have classes with hungry students we try to feed them only known quantities so that they acquire the tools to expand their awareness to be open to further enlightenement. We don't feed them indiscriminately and overload their systems so that they get too exhausted to work
                                  > > and ask further questions.
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                                  > > > > The Christain, Muslims, Hindus and every organised clan of Beings have taken Truths and twisted them to fit their agenda for Power and control citing the very logic you espouse to hide behind.
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                                  > > > > --- In mailto:All-Energy%40yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@> wrote:
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                                  > > > > > Dear Tpanayiotou,Sure what you say is true from your point of view.No one is charged with believing the information.Truth is a very relative matter, you knowRelative time, location, subject,.... But "according to
                                  > > your faith be it unto you"Even when conduction sophisticated experiments wit sub atomic particles, you can decide the outcome of the experiment.So it's up to you.Or any one else.The weed and the wheat: its time for harvest.
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                                  > > > > > --- On Fri, 7/6/12, tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@> wrote:
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                                  > > > > > From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@>
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                                  > > > > > Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
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                                  > > > > > To: mailto:All-Energy%40yahoogroups.com
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                                  > > > > > Alas, this link seems very suspicious as it has a lot of rubbish mixed with Truths and half-truths ....a real time-waster for serious seekers of Truth. Especially all that crap about Obama being some sort of God-send evolved person, if anything the opposite is true about the lying fox, not that I think the other mix of Hyenas in the Political, Banking, Corporate bunch of Criminal Racketeers are any better!! This smacks of disinformation and volume blasting to wear peoples brains into disinterest and apathy ....or putting it more succinctly to dull peoples brains back to the TV couch !
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                                  > > > > > > FREE ENERGY IS A REALITY
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                                  > > > > > > Message from the Galactic Federation of Light
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                                  > > > > > > As channeled through Greg Giles â€" May 28, 2012
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                                  > > > > > > Free energy zones will be areas of designation that are provided to
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                                  > > > > > > home.Read entire article on;   http://the2012scenario.com/2012/05/message-from-the-galactic-federation-of-light-may-28-2012/
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                                  > > > > > > Subject: [All-E] Alternatives will not be tollerated!!!
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                                  Sure, his hands are tied. But.. it looks like that guy isn t one of the bad guys. However up to now he is dancing to their tune. Know what? IT WILL NOT BE
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                                    Sure, his hands are tied. But.. it looks like that guy isn't one of the bad guys. However up to now he is dancing to their tune.
                                    Know what? IT WILL NOT BE BANNED BUT TAKEN OVER BY THE ILLUMINATI, THE CABAL, THE NEW WORLD ORDER AND THE MILITARY[GENOCIDE!] COMPLEX.
                                    flying SAUCERS AND UFO TECHNOLOGIES HAVE BEEN ARE ARE BEING USED IN AMERICA.
                                    Other forces are against them: the Galactic Federation. They will not be able to use the technologies for evil any more: their days being numbered.
                                    And so we shall continue with our research, publications and dissemination of FREE ENERGY.
                                    Yes, we are here for ALL ENERGY or nothing.
                                    Grease to your elbows for this forum


                                    From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...>
                                    To: All-Energy@yahoogroups.com
                                    Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2012 6:59 PM
                                    Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED

                                     
                                    Fools !!! They wrote to 'Bama...well Corporation Man will surely put a stop to all that!

                                    --- In All-Energy@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@...> wrote:
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                                    > Hi Tpana,
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                                    > You heard of the Keshe Foundation of Belgium]saying its gonna release free energy propulsion systems [using gravity and magnetism or MAGRAVS] in September and writing to Barak Obama about it?
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                                    > The time for disclosure has come my brother.
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                                    > Ever heard of the Galactic Federation or that there are other humans around us and among us [millions of times more technologically advanced than us] who are not of terrestrial origins? Our recent jumps in technologies [ELF, cellular,  Microchips, star wars weaponry, flying saucers, etc] coming from them?
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                                    > Now's when you'll bash your skull against a wall: they will hand out for free, hand-held free-energy devices that can satisfy all your bodily needs at will and teleport you wherever you desire at a blink using advanced Stargate technology.
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                                    > Real life brother, offers more fantasy than the human mind can grasp.
                                    > Yeah, but I am still skeptical: that's the scientific mind.
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                                    > From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@...>
                                    > To: All-Energy@yahoogroups.com
                                    > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 7:24 PM
                                    > Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
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                                    > Not all deserve the Light my friend and God helps those who help themselves!
                                    > Here's a couple of news items to keep you more busy!....
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                                    > http://phys.org/news/2012-07-scientists-highly-transparent-solar-cells.html
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                                    > Examiner Editorial Policy Chooses Smut over Breakthrough Energy
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                                    > On July 18, Breakthrough Energy Examiner, Sterling Allan, was discontinued from Examiner because he took the stance that: "Yes, sex sells, but not for reasons that bring good karma. It is not good to encourage men to gawk at other women, jeopardizing their marriages and family, and putting children at risk of being exposed to inappropriate content and behavior."
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                                    > by Sterling D. Allan
                                    > Pure Energy Systems News
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                                    > Since April of 2009, I have been the "Breakthrough Energy Examiner" for Examiner.com.
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                                    > Over time, I've noticed that their advertisements and featured story subject matter have been increasingly lascivious (inclined to lustfulness). Consistently, at least one of the four suggested stories at the bottom of the page where I have to go to submit news content includes stories of this nature.
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                                    > A line was crossed when I received a subscription email from them on July 14 for my friend, Fred Burks' feed, who is the US Intelligence Examiner. I love his content, but I did not appreciate the ad from Examiner.com that was borderline pornographic. It was beyond PG-13.
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                                    > So I wrote them an email:
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                                    > http://pesn.com/2012/07/22/9602141_Examiner_Editorial_Policy_Chooses_Smut_over_Breakthrough_Energy/
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                                    > --- In All-Energy@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@> wrote:
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                                    > > Yey! Brother Tony,
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                                    > > Right. Seems I am sticking my neck out way too much.
                                    > > But NO FEAR!
                                    > > BEHOLD THE LIGHT!
                                    > > We can't hide it anymore.
                                    > > NOW is the time
                                    > > "eleutheria e thanatos"[excuse poor knowledge of ancient Greek]
                                    > > "Liberty or death", that's what I mean
                                    > > Bless YOU for the concern.
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                                    > > From: tony kuli panayiotou <tpanayiotou@>
                                    > > To: "All-Energy@yahoogroups.com" <All-Energy@yahoogroups.com>
                                    > > Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 12:06 PM
                                    > > Subject: Re: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
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                                    > > Sounds like you have your hands full...God speed to you!
                                    > > Be careful not to reveal too much on these public forums, stay below the rada lest the heynas smell you out.
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                                    > > STAY INFORMED
                                    > > http://www.apfn.org/apfn/reserve.htm
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                                    > > http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC3F29DDAA1BABFCF
                                    > > http://www.thrivemovement.com/  
                                    > > http://www.youtube.com/user/russiatoday?feature=results_main
                                    > >         http://arcticbeacon.com/books/E_C_Knuth-The_Empire_Of_The_City,1944.pdf 
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                                    > > From: Dr. Fombong <fombongturbine@>
                                    > > To: "All-Energy@yahoogroups.com" <All-Energy@yahoogroups.com>
                                    > > Sent: Friday, 20 July 2012, 15:52
                                    > > Subject: Re: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
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                                    > > Hi Tpanayiotou,
                                    > > My task at moment is more of doing than studying. theories have started boring me.
                                    > > I have to earn my bread as consultant to several international bodies but this does not give me enough funds for the type of free energy research I want to get into.
                                    > > Practical Guide to "Free Energy" Devices is a book that I have been using like a bible. It is most informative and I am highly indebted to the author who has given it to everyone for free.
                                    > > I have also subscribed to several free energy forums which have helped guide my research.
                                    > > In a bid to raise more funds for my free energy research, I have decided to thermally and catalytically De-polymerize abundant local waste plastics to produce gasoline and diesel for sale. I have gathered materials to construct a small batch type, 100 liter per day plant. The revenue from this may be about $50/day if I escape from being taxed or shut down entirely.
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                                    > > With haste, I may produce my first liter by August 15.
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                                    > > More later.
                                    > > Bye
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                                    > > From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@>
                                    > > To: All-Energy@yahoogroups.com
                                    > > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 9:45 PM
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                                    > > Hello Dr.Fombong,
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                                    > > God speed and stay safe ....it's really great that you have actually duplicated some projects, after all talk is cheap.!!
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                                    > > http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf#page=128
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                                    > > The Kapanadze coil analyzed by William J. McFreey (pdf) - Starting on p. 128 of chapter 3 of Patrick J. Kelly's compilation, this article explain the working principles of Kapanadze devices. "This explanation extends to Tesla, Hubbard, Meyer, Mark, SR193. In my opinion, this is a perfect explanation and the only correct one. This 'overunity' is called... nuclear energy, no matter how it is disguised." -- Greg Pakulski (Free-Energy-Info.co.uk; May, 2012)
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                                    > > --- In mailto:All-Energy%40yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@> wrote:
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                                    > > > Hi Tpanayiotou,
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                                    > > > I am so relieved that you are not on the other side of the fence.
                                    > > > I use the cyber-cafe for my correspondence: it is safer
                                    > > > So, your post has been downloaded for later perusal and meditation.
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                                    > > > It surprises me that no one else has posted anything on the matter.
                                    > > > However, I hope free energy considerations are not against the objectives of our group.
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                                    > > > My recent research in free energy technologies have been focused on tesla's aerial systems [especially the TREC] and those based on the tesla coil [Don Smith and Tariel Kapanardze devices].  I have also experimented with motionless pulsed systems especially the Thane Heins transformer and the motionless generator of Richard Willis.
                                    > > > The Rotoverter is a moving pulse system which I have duplicated with success so is the
                                    > > > Chas Campbel/Jacob Byzehr Gravity
                                    > > Flywheel system.
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                                    > > > I wish I could join you to the Tesla anniversary. Forgive my envy.
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                                    > > > I will get back to you once I read through your email.
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                                    > > > Best regards
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                                    > > > --- On Mon, 7/16/12, tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@> wrote:
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                                    > > > From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@>
                                    > > > Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
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                                    > > > OK Dr.Fombong enough said! It was Nokola Teslas birthday in
                                    > > July and he is one of my heroes in regards investigating Truths as opposed to making weapons and splitting atoms ........Energy is all around us and in abundance, only the will is missing to finance how to access it and a bunch of crooks in high places sucking our finances ...if only a percentage of 700-800 Billion dollars the US military Industrial Complex uses for creating war and strife was turned to R & D the World would change over night!
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                                    > > > Anyway here is a piece by stirling d.allen in full regarding the great man whose humility few could emulate...
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                                    > > > ''My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength, Inspiration.
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                                    > > > I have not penetrated into the secret of this core, but I know it exists.''
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                                    > > > Pure Energy Systems News
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                                    > > mentioned the other day, on July 10, Tesla's Birthday, I'm going to be going on Coast to Coast AM to do a segment on "Tesla Today". It will be a three-hour interview with host, George Noory, beginning at 11 pm Pacific.
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                                    > > > In anticipation of covering that subject, I thought I'd see if I could do an interview with someone who is at the top of my list of consultants on that topic, Karl Palsness, who I've known for about three years.
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                                    > > > (P.S., later this morning, I'm also going to be interviewing another pillar along these lines, Patrick Flanagan, who I met in person in Costa Rica last year. I hope to have a write-up about that interview posted tomorrow.)
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                                    > > > Karl is a gifted researcher who has been doing Tesla-related, overunity research and development full-time, with investment funds for a decade. He's working with several other people, and they have been
                                    > > making great progress toward not only replicating Tesla-related technologies (the really exotic stuff from the latter half of Tesla's life) but in getting them to the point of maturation that they can be brought to market, some as soon as possibly a year.
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                                    > > > Karl agreed to do an interview, which we conducted on July 3, 2012 about some of the past and present research he is doing, as well as discussing Who's Who in the field of Tesla research and commercialization, and what some of the key scientific principles are.
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                                    > > > As I see it, there are essentially two subdivisions of Tesla's work: what he did in the first half of his life, which has become the bedrock of modern civilization: AC polyphase power, the induction motor, radio, X-ray, neon and fluorescent lighting (just to name a few); and what he worked on in the last half of his life, which involved concepts that were so far ahead of his
                                    > > time that they weren't adapted, so he was shunned and ultimately died a pauper, at which point his notes were grabbed up by the US government, who seems to have implemented at least some of the technologies into various black budget projects such as HAARP, and the 1943 Philadelphia Experiment, the year Tesla died.
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                                    > > > Karl was quick to point out that AC was anything but "mainstream" when Tesla first introduced it. The science establishment, headed by Edison , opposed it vigorously. And this was when Tesla was in his early twenties.
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                                    > > > When I asked Karl about the fundamental principles behind the electrical work Tesla did in the latter half of his life, I was expecting a long and complex answer. But for Karl, it boils down to "asymmetric field of circuits" and a term Tesla coined: "longitudinal wave". "Single-event resonance" is also key.
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                                    > > > The analogy Karl
                                    > > used to describe the longitudinal wave was a tsunami, whose waves can travel across the ocean at speeds exceeding 600 mph -- the speed of a jumbo jet flying over the ocean. Normal ocean waves propagate slow enough that a person can run along side one on a dock. Those are very different processes, with very different causes and results.
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                                    > > > Tsunamis are usually triggered by massive land movements within the water, such as from a large earthquake or meteorite. The large displacement then propagates horizontally away, barely displacing the surface elevation until it reaches shore, where it crests and rushes inland.
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                                    > > > Another example Karl cited was in sound production. It takes maybe 50 Watts equivalent of power for a person to blow a trumpet, but it takes maybe a kilowatt of power for a speaker system to reproduce the same decibel level of sound, because the speaker system uses transverse
                                    > > waves to manufacture the longitudinal waves. There is a longitudinal component that the speaker system doesn't directly produce, so it has to make up for it in power. This should be a clue to people in the sound reproduction industry about possible new designs that could reproduce the sound using little power.
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                                    > > > Much of Tesla's latter work involved means of creating electrical longitudinal waves, through fast, abrupt change; such as through rapid spark gap discharges, or through shorting the circuit; characterizing their function, and putting them to practical use. "One of the biggest things that Tesla did was create local changes, such as a 'microbubble', or 'microvoid', which nature fills in." Tesla also played with various shapes to stimulate these effects.
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                                    > > > In the case of electricity, some funky things happen in the process of creating the longitudinal wave. Energy shows up that was
                                    > > not fed into the system by the operator. Tesla called this "radiant energy".
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                                    > > > Karl said that Tesla used asymmetric circuits that involved abrupt changes of voltage or current or both. "The first half of circuit did not match second half of circuit. For example, the first half might have a low resistance, while the second half had a high resistance." The asymmetry could also be in the number of wires, or in shape. High voltage versus high current.
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                                    > > > To put it simply: you create asymmetry, and nature steps in to restore the symmetry. The objective is that the amount of energy required to establish the asymmetry is less than the amount of energy that nature provides when restoring the symmetry. A very simple example is a dam. The amount of energy required to put the dam in place, creating an asymmetry, is returned many-fold. We should remember that Tesla was the first to build a
                                    > > hydro-electric dam, at Niagara Falls.
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                                    > > > Tesla stated: "To understand radiant energy, you should avoid electrons at all costs", and "Radiant energy circuits are void of electrons."
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                                    > > > That might seem like a contradiction when talking about electricity. It certainly points to the need for some kind of mechanism to harvest that radiant energy, then transform it into the kind of electricity our devices are engineered to handle.
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                                    > > > From what I understand, devices such as batteries and capacitors can absorb radiant energy; and, of course, are able to then deliver that power in the direct current manner consistent with their usual operation.
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                                    > > > Karl said that in Tesla's notes from Colorado Springs , when his dome got supercharged, the ions would fly to the dome from the ionosphere. The wheelwork of nature was powering the
                                    > > dome."
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                                    > > > "We've witnessed that [here] in Canada ," he said.
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                                    > > > According to Karl, the Wardenclyffe tower "was going to be the next step in energy. It was going to take the world to the next level, wirelessly, and power the world." It wasn't just going to be a transmitter, but a receiver of Radiant energy as well.
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                                    > > > Karl also speculates that the receivers of that energy were not just receivers of the signal from Wardenclyffe, but they would become receivers of radiant energy themselves.
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                                    > > > "My theory is that when the Wardenclyffe signal would have been received, it would make the receiver come 'alive', becoming resonant, pumping energy from the environment locally."
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                                    > > > Karl goes so far as to say that now, with the ability of modern electronics, it is possible to make that Wardenclyffe signal
                                    > > synthetically. The tower is actually unnecessary. A portable device can be made into a radiant energy receiver to harness that energy anywhere, whether on earth or in space. "We can make the signal locally and make the receiver come alive. After all, [even in Tesla's model,] the receiver is not receiving the energy from Wardenclyffe but from the local environment," he said by Skype today, when reviewing this story. That is the nature of the technology he and his associates are working to bring forward soon.
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                                    > > > Energy is not the only application of transverse waves of this nature. Karl said, "You can send more data through longitudinal than transverse waves. A 1 terabyte line could be boosted to 1000 Tb." And those communications can be effectively instantaneous. There are also healing modalities that employ longitudinal waves of the Tesla variety. You can grow plants in darkness, as if in full sunlight.
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                                    > > > In addition to some of the people working on his team, some of whom he referred to by first name, Karl listed some of the pillars in this line of research as Tom Bearden, John Bedini, Peter Lindemann, T. Henry Moray, and Stanley Meyers.
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                                    > > > Karl is encouraged by how much Tesla research has taken off. "When I first got involved 10 years ago, there was very little on the Internet. It was almost virgin territory." Now the trend has gotten to the point of being "uncontainable" by the corrupt powers that be -- the same type of faction that put the kibosh on Tesla in his day. He sees a lot of action, especially in Russia , Turkey , and South Africa . He's even seen major scientific papers "backpedalling" on stances they once took against this type of science, coming closer to embracing it.
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                                    > > > From his vantage point, he predicts that products along these lines will begin to appear
                                    > > in the marketplace for customer purchase within as few as twelve months or less. Some companies are already designing for manufacturing. Some are in pre-production, doing their testing and getting certifications.
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                                    > > > We briefly discussed the fuel-free generator from South Africa as well as Ismael Aviso's technology, which seems to be a replica of Tesla's Pierce Arrow.
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                                    > > > The biggest obstacle, as Karl sees it, is getting adequate funding. He bemoans the fact that the rich and famous will blow millions of dollars on yachts and frivolous parties, expensive paintings, clothing and accessories, but will act like paupers when considering financing a technology that could revolutionize the planet, making life better (including cleaner) for all of us, including them.
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                                    > > > Even though the science is nearly 100 years old, its acceptance in the mainstream has yet to
                                    > > materialize, so it is treated as if it were junk science at best, or even snake oil. So when people with money ask their scientist friends about whether they should invest in this technology, they usually get thumbs down.
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                                    > > > You thought the war of the currents (Tesla's AC vs Edison 's DC transmission of power) was bad. Tesla won that war in his day, and has been vindicated royally for more than a century. And that was over something Tesla came up with in his early 20's. He lived to 87, inventing to the end.
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                                    > > > Why is it so hard to consider that if Tesla was right on that one, he was most probably also right on the other work he did? And not just a little right, but royally right. Karl added today: "This was not theory. Almost every thing he talked about was proven in his day. It was demonstrated to work. But there were people that made sure that it was not brought to market; and they went
                                    > > out of their way to even make Tesla seem to be a mad man."
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                                    > > > Karl also remarked that a lot of this research "can be done on the cheap." So we're not talking about billions of dollars and decades of time, such as are needed for things like the Tokomak hot fusion reactor. A few millions of dollars can go very far, with much better results.
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                                    > > > Karl is encouraged by the worldwide awakening that is happening, as people everywhere question the status quo and realize that the "mainstream" is controlled by a corrupt faction whose days are numbered.
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                                    > > > For those interested in getting involved in Tesla research, Karl recommends the book "Secrets of Cold War Technology", which addresses the fundamental steps, how Tesla discovered these things, what he did to stumble into them, and why they impacted him, and molded him. He also recommended that you get on YouTube and
                                    > > see what has been posted there. And "Get back to Tesla's writings. He wrote some incredible stuff. Pick an area of research."
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                                    > > > Karl and his group can be reached at modern_tesla@
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                                    > > > --- In mailto:All-Energy%40yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@> wrote:
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                                    > > > > Hi Tpanayiotou,
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                                    > > > > What does it matter if I am Dr. or
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                                    > > > > Prof.?
                                    > > >
                                    > > > > Please, take me for neither for that is
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                                    > > > > not the question at
                                    > > stake. I rather be called “slave” Fombong. If being "Doctor" is to hang unto what was hammered into me at the faculty, then I had rather forego the appellation.
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                                    > > > > Who chooses what title I should
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                                    > > > > Yeah, it's those who want me to believe and continue in
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                                    > > > > outdated dogmas in the name science.
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                                    > > > > Believe me whoever you are:
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                                    > > > > science is dynamic and so is what you term truth.
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                                    > > > > I have done
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                                    > > > > research for over 30 years in the scientific discipline of energy and
                                    > > >
                                    > > > > I have found out that a lot of things concerning developments in
                                    > > >
                                    > > > > energy transformations have either been falsified or suppressed. It is not
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                                    > > > > until about 5 years ago that I
                                    > > realized that what I had up to then
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                                    > > > > considered as truth [with regards my engineering background] was
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                                    > > > > entirely illusory.
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                                    > > > > What do you want me to say?
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                                    > > > > I believe in myself and I believe in
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                                    > > > > free energy because I have proven it to myself and can prove it to
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                                    > > > > you if you are willing. I have proof that free energy technologies
                                    > > >
                                    > > > > have been suppressed from about a century ago to the moment.
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                                    > > > > Free energy is not considered in the
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                                    > > > > sense that you define energy in classical scientific concepts.
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                                    > > > > It does not come from nothing, rather
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                                    > > > > it comes from multiple interlaced energy forms.
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                                    > > Energy is neither created nor
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                                    > > > > destroyed: it is only transformed.
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                                    > > > > Mind you, energy comes in one form by
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                                    > > > > transforming another form into that which is desired.
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                                    > > > > Our free energy sources are not Closed
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                                    > > > > but rather intersecting and interacting systems.
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                                    > > > > That is the way the universe is made:
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                                    > > > > there is no closed system.
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                                    > > > > That is where traditional science
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                                    > > > > misleads you by defining energy in terms of a closed system. The closed system concept was intentionally introduced to mislead simple minds.
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                                    > > > > Every energy resource is connected to
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                                    > > > > other systems from which or to which energy flows in its myriads of
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                                    > > > > Believe it or not, I am using free
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                                    > > > > energy on a daily basis.
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                                    > > > > And you know where I Am?
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                                    > > > > Africa.
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                                    > > > > It does not matter what you choose to
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                                    > > > > believe in.
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                                    > > > > The truth has numerous faces. You
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                                    > > > > choose yours and you will not be in error until your time come and
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                                    > > > > you eyes open or turn in a different direction and you [being a judge unto yourself] exclaim: 'the truth is over there!'
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                                    > > > > See Tpanayiotou and others, we are not
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                                    > > > > here to impose our truths on you. We are not here to say that you are
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                                    > > > > in error. We are only stating our perceptions and you have the right
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                                    > > > > reject, investigate or accept them on faith.
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                                    > > > > One more thing, a few years ago I was
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                                    > > > > one of the most ardent opponent of anything related to what is called
                                    > > >
                                    > > > > “free energy” and I could then back up my opposition with
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                                    > > > > “fail-proof” scientific and mathematical theories, formulae and
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                                    > > > > derrivations.
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                                    > > > > I Wish you the best.
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                                    > > > > --- On Sat, 7/14/12, tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@> wrote:
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                                    > > > > From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@>
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                                    > > > > Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE
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                                    > > > > To: mailto:All-Energy%40yahoogroups.com
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                                    > > > > Date: Saturday, July 14, 2012, 4:31 AM
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                                    > > > > Dear Dr. Fombong, if that is your real title or just one you have decided to tag on
                                    > > for appearances !
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                                    > > > > Some Truths are Primordial and cannot be changed or debated about by Humans or anyone else and around these is a sea of flexibility.
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                                    > > > > Our task as Scientists is to find and identify these eternal Truths and work around their parameters, be they material, emotional , mental or Spirirtual. What may seem as grey area to us today may just be a distortion or lack of perception due to lack of growth.
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                                    > > > > When we have classes with hungry students we try to feed them only known quantities so that they acquire the tools to expand their awareness to be open to further enlightenement. We don't feed them indiscriminately and overload their systems so that they get too exhausted to work
                                    > > and ask further questions.
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                                    > > > > The Christain, Muslims, Hindus and every organised clan of Beings have taken Truths and twisted them to fit their agenda for Power and control citing the very logic you espouse to hide behind.
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                                    > > > > --- In mailto:All-Energy%40yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Fombong" <fombongturbine@> wrote:
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                                    > > > > > Dear Tpanayiotou,Sure what you say is true from your point of view.No one is charged with believing the information.Truth is a very relative matter, you knowRelative time, location, subject,.... But "according to
                                    > > your faith be it unto you"Even when conduction sophisticated experiments wit sub atomic particles, you can decide the outcome of the experiment.So it's up to you.Or any one else.The weed and the wheat: its time for harvest.
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                                    > > > > > --- On Fri, 7/6/12, tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@> wrote:
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                                    > > > > > From: tpanayiotou <tpanayiotou@>
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                                    > > > > > Subject: [All-E] Re: FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS TO BE RELEASED
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                                    > > > > > To: mailto:All-Energy%40yahoogroups.com
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                                    > > > > > > As channeled through Greg Giles â€" May 28, 2012
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                                    > > > > > > His closing comment caught my attention: "I was banned permanently from NDSU for replicating the Stan Meyer Water Fuel Cell."
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