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RE: [AirVW] Re: HAPI 2180

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  • Eric R. Miitchell
    Corvair, www.flycorvair.com, $4-6K Approx. 100 - 120 H.P. Comparable to O-200, a little lighter, Approx 200 Lb. emitchell1 _____ From: AirVW@yahoogroups.com
    Message 1 of 32 , Feb 28, 2011
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      Corvair, www.flycorvair.com, $4-6K Approx. 100 - 120 H.P. Comparable to O-200, a little lighter, Approx 200 Lb.
       
      emitchell1
       


      From: AirVW@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AirVW@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Cowlthorp
      Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 12:46 PM
      To: AirVW@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [AirVW] Re: HAPI 2180

       

      Pat.
      Any other ideas on engines in the 100hp range that can swing a large prop (96" ish)?  I know all about the Rotec radial and would love one but am not a Doctor or Lawyer so I need something at a reasonable cost.
      Doug C.
       
       
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 12:30
      Subject: Re: [AirVW] Re: HAPI 2180

       

      There is a concern with the HAPI alternator throwing magnets. Otherwise its a fine engine (as VW engines go), if  mated with a good carb. 


      The prop hub attachment is potentially the weak-link with this engine (save valve seat issues prevalent with most VW conversions), and it's what killed th business when Rex Taylor decided to replace cranks for then current owners. 


      On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Jococacola9 <jococacola9@...> wrote:


      I think you are correct about the 2180. I had a 1835 (60 2dm) and was very happy( no pun) with it




      -----Original Message-----
      From: Ron Dixon <rhdixon1@...>
      To: AirVW <AirVW@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Mon, Feb 28, 2011 1:09 pm
      Subject: [AirVW] Re: HAPI 2180

       
      I don't think HAPI ever built a 2180.  They have probably been out of business for almost 30 years.  The biggest HAPI I ever saw was an1850.



    • Doug Cowlthorp
      Thanks Oscar (Pete) ... From: ON Gmail To: AirVW@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 06:49 Subject: Re: [AirVW] Re: HAPI 2180 Doug, My buddy is:
      Message 32 of 32 , Mar 5, 2011
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        Thanks Oscar (Pete)
         
         
         
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: ON Gmail
        Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 06:49
        Subject: Re: [AirVW] Re: HAPI 2180

         

        Doug,


        My buddy is:  Phill Essey  910-276-4466   antiqueairplanes@...

        Has his own strip with 2 or 3 hangar buildings full of airplanes... Lots of em flying including a couple Cessna Air Masters.... If I'm not mistaken a Air Master 145 & 165, also a 1941 Steerman Bi-Plane, Stamp, Mono Coup, Super Cub, etc etc... Give him a call and tell him I told you to call him.  Tell him "Pete Petree"...  Good luck.

        Oscar (Pete) Petree


        Oscar.
        Thanks for the suggestion.  I have looked at the old radials but I have never seen one that wasn't 15-$20,000.  Kinner made some usable sizes as did LaBlonde-KenRoyce but they are few and far between and parts are hard to find.  Let me know your buddies e-mail and I might send him a letter.  I would love to have a radial if its not too heavy and would run well.
        Doug
         
        ----- Original Message -----
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        Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 08:18
        Subject: Re: [AirVW] Re: HAPI 2180

         

        Doug,

        Why don't you look into one of the older "round" engines like the 
        Warner Series 40... 125 hp. or the Warner Super Scarab 145 hp? 
        These are available used for reasonable prices. Also Continental made 
        an R180 producing about 75 hp. There are also Jacobs "Shaky Jakes"... 
        with various HP's available by the hundreds... I got a buddy in N.C. 
        that has a barn full of them. I would bet you that by the time you 
        bought your VW and redrive plus the necessary stuff for mounting etc 
        that you could have one of the round ones on you nose. Email me 
        directly and I'll put you in touch with my buddy... I don't think any 
        of his engines are for sale, but I'd bet he could help you find one.

        Oscar Petree

        On Mar 3, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Doug Cowlthorp wrote:

        Justin.

        That is the exact situation I am in. I would like the simplicty or 
        one of
        the certified engines but it looks like I will hve to go the redrive 
        route
        for the long prop. Not sure about the redrive on the Corvair. William
        Wynne ( the guru ) doesn't like them on the Corvair and they would be 
        way to
        heavy for my application, but the VW is looking more and more the way 
        I will
        have to go.

        Doug

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "Justin Schoeman" <justin.schoeman@...>
        To: <AirVW@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 01:17
        Subject: Re: [AirVW] Re: HAPI 2180

        > Tip speed will limit you to around 2400rpm prop speed @ 86". To get
        > reasonable power down there, you will either need a BIG engine, or a
        > reduction drive.
        >
        > So why not put a reduction drive on a corvair? Or a Type IV VW? Either
        > of those will make 100hp, and the reduction drive will allow you to
        > swing that prop...
        >
        >
        > On 03/03/11 02:09, Doug Cowlthorp wrote:
        >>
        >>
        >> Pat.
        >> Ya, I know they are heavy. I would love a Corvair. I had one about 5
        >> years ago for a 601XL project I had. A great 6 cylinder engine that 
        >> is
        >> very smoooooooth. Again, though, they will not swing an 86" prop. I
        >> might have to just bite the bullet and not worry so much about 
        >> asthetics
        >> and just use a short prop on something like an 0-200 or 0-235. I 
        >> really
        >> want the long prop though. Desission, Desissions.
        >> Doug
        >>
        >> ----- Original Message -----
        >> *From:* Pat Panzera <mailto:panzera@...>
        >> *To:* AirVW@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AirVW@yahoogroups.com>
        >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 02, 2011 18:02
        >> *Subject:* Re: [AirVW] Re: HAPI 2180
        >>
        >> Doug,
        >>
        >>
        >> I know of one person who removed the water-cooled EA-81 (with a
        >> redrive) from a KR2 and installed an air-cooled 240 lb Corvair and
        >> his empty weight went down.
        >>
        >> Pat
        >>
        >>
        >> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Doug Cowlthorp <thorp@...
        >> <mailto:thorp@...>> wrote:
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >> Do you know anything about Subaru engines with redrives? Not
        >> sure, but I think they (EA81) are only about 80hp depending on
        >> the size of redrive (ratio). Have you ever had any dealing 
        >> with
        >> this type of engine? I also need something that is only 
        >> 200lb's
        >> or less.
        >> Doug
        >>
        >>
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