RE: [AirVW] Re: HAPI 2180
- Corvair, www.flycorvair.com, $4-6K Approx. 100 - 120 H.P. Comparable to O-200, a little lighter, Approx 200 Lb.emitchell1
From: AirVW@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AirVW@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Cowlthorp
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AirVW] Re: HAPI 2180Pat.Any other ideas on engines in the 100hp range that can swing a large prop (96" ish)? I know all about the Rotec radial and would love one but am not a Doctor or Lawyer so I need something at a reasonable cost.Doug C.----- Original Message -----From: Pat PanzeraSent: Monday, February 28, 2011 12:30Subject: Re: [AirVW] Re: HAPI 2180
There is a concern with the HAPI alternator throwing magnets. Otherwise its a fine engine (as VW engines go), if mated with a good carb.The prop hub attachment is potentially the weak-link with this engine (save valve seat issues prevalent with most VW conversions), and it's what killed th business when Rex Taylor decided to replace cranks for then current owners.On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Jococacola9 <jococacola9@...> wrote:
I think you are correct about the 2180. I had a 1835 (60 2dm) and was very happy( no pun) with it
- Thanks Oscar (Pete)----- Original Message -----From: ON GmailSent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 06:49Subject: Re: [AirVW] Re: HAPI 2180
Doug,My buddy is: Phill Essey 910-276-4466 antiqueairplanes@...Has his own strip with 2 or 3 hangar buildings full of airplanes... Lots of em flying including a couple Cessna Air Masters.... If I'm not mistaken a Air Master 145 & 165, also a 1941 Steerman Bi-Plane, Stamp, Mono Coup, Super Cub, etc etc... Give him a call and tell him I told you to call him. Tell him "Pete Petree"... Good luck.Oscar (Pete) PetreeOscar.Thanks for the suggestion. I have looked at the old radials but I have never seen one that wasn't 15-$20,000. Kinner made some usable sizes as did LaBlonde-KenRoyce but they are few and far between and parts are hard to find. Let me know your buddies e-mail and I might send him a letter. I would love to have a radial if its not too heavy and would run well.Doug----- Original Message -----From: ON GmailSent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 08:18Subject: Re: [AirVW] Re: HAPI 2180
Why don't you look into one of the older "round" engines like the
Warner Series 40... 125 hp. or the Warner Super Scarab 145 hp?
These are available used for reasonable prices. Also Continental made
an R180 producing about 75 hp. There are also Jacobs "Shaky Jakes"...
with various HP's available by the hundreds... I got a buddy in N.C.
that has a barn full of them. I would bet you that by the time you
bought your VW and redrive plus the necessary stuff for mounting etc
that you could have one of the round ones on you nose. Email me
directly and I'll put you in touch with my buddy... I don't think any
of his engines are for sale, but I'd bet he could help you find one.
On Mar 3, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Doug Cowlthorp wrote:
That is the exact situation I am in. I would like the simplicty or
the certified engines but it looks like I will hve to go the redrive
for the long prop. Not sure about the redrive on the Corvair. William
Wynne ( the guru ) doesn't like them on the Corvair and they would be
heavy for my application, but the VW is looking more and more the way
have to go.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Justin Schoeman" <justin.schoeman@...>
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 01:17
Subject: Re: [AirVW] Re: HAPI 2180
> Tip speed will limit you to around 2400rpm prop speed @ 86". To get
> reasonable power down there, you will either need a BIG engine, or a
> reduction drive.
> So why not put a reduction drive on a corvair? Or a Type IV VW? Either
> of those will make 100hp, and the reduction drive will allow you to
> swing that prop...
> On 03/03/11 02:09, Doug Cowlthorp wrote:
>> Ya, I know they are heavy. I would love a Corvair. I had one about 5
>> years ago for a 601XL project I had. A great 6 cylinder engine that
>> very smoooooooth. Again, though, they will not swing an 86" prop. I
>> might have to just bite the bullet and not worry so much about
>> and just use a short prop on something like an 0-200 or 0-235. I
>> want the long prop though. Desission, Desissions.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Pat Panzera <mailto:panzera@...>
>> *To:* AirVW@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AirVW@yahoogroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 02, 2011 18:02
>> *Subject:* Re: [AirVW] Re: HAPI 2180
>> I know of one person who removed the water-cooled EA-81 (with a
>> redrive) from a KR2 and installed an air-cooled 240 lb Corvair and
>> his empty weight went down.
>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Doug Cowlthorp <thorp@...
>> <mailto:thorp@...>> wrote:
>> Do you know anything about Subaru engines with redrives? Not
>> sure, but I think they (EA81) are only about 80hp depending on
>> the size of redrive (ratio). Have you ever had any dealing
>> this type of engine? I also need something that is only
>> or less.
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