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Re: Malagasy Standing Couple (Hazomanga?)

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  • afrikhantiques
    Thank you so much Lee for your extensive and informative reply. I learnt a lot more about Malagasy sculptures from your posted pictures from QB and the
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      Thank you so much Lee for your extensive and informative reply. I learnt a lot more about Malagasy sculptures from your posted pictures from QB and the articles - I find the last artcile you posted particularly interesting. They are all excellent pictures to reference my piece.
      I am hoping that I could get your personal opinion on my piece - I have also added more photos.
      My statue is not as well preserved as the museum pieces. I personally do like the natural erosion and damage as it gives the sculpture a certain enigma.
      I've tried to find Malagasy art from private collections through several african art auctions but they are hard to find or just very rare.
      Best regards,

      --- In African_Arts@yahoogroups.com, Lee Rubinstein <LeeRubinstein@...> wrote:
      > Sifting through the artistic traditions of Madagascar is particularly
      > interesting as it offers entrée into specific and complex historical,
      > trans-cultural and trans-geographical influences in African art.
      > Among the cultural and artistic traditions of Madagascar one finds
      > those traditions -- including funerary sculptures -- variously
      > attributed to a diversity of groups including Mahafaly, Sakalava,
      > Vezo, Bara, Betsileo and Tsimihety. Among the historical and cultural
      > aspects encountered through an exploration of the material culture of
      > these groups one finds that the historical origins of Madagascar's
      > peoples and languages is deeply influenced by Malayo-Polynesian (or
      > Malayo-Indonesian) migrations. As previously discussed with more
      > general reference to African continental traditions, historical
      > migrations play an important role in considering the inter-connections
      > among African peoples and their cultural traditions and material
      > cultures. In Madagascar the consideration of migration and extra-
      > African influences reflects unique and distinct geographical
      > parameters and cultural landscapes as well as the prevalence of the
      > Asian and Oceanic impacts upon Malagasy society, agricultural
      > practices and cultural traditions and expressions.
      > One informative introduction (written, please note, by group member
      > Alex Bortolot) can be found on the Met site:
      > "Kingdoms of Madagascar: Malagasy Funerary Arts."
      > Although I am not certain that it is decidedly accurate to classify
      > all seemingly analogous works as "funerary" sculptures, there are
      > additional examples of sculptures from various cultures of Madagascar
      > in the Quai Branly database which are interesting to explore --
      > especially to contemplate the inclusion of portrayals not only of
      > human figures, singly and in pairs (and one trio), but also inclusive
      > of birds, zebus and more complex integrations of anthropomorphic and
      > zoomorphic figures as well as geometric designs. For example:
      > http://www.quaibranly.fr/cc/pod/pleinecran.aspx?p=MQB+OBJETS&i=%5cYmago%5c200000%5c283155y.jpg&n=Poteau+fun%E9raire
      > Nom vernaculaire : alualu
      > N° inventaire : 71.1901.6.12
      > Ethnonyme(s) : Sakalava
      > Toponyme(s) : Madagascar / Afrique orientale / Afrique
      > Personne(s) / Institution(s) :
      > Mission : Guillaume Grandidier
      > Donateur : Comité de Madagascar, Exposition universelle de 1900
      > Ancienne collection : Muséum national d'histoire naturelle
      > Précédente collection : Musée de l'Homme (Madagascar)
      > Description : Sur le fût se trouve un crocodile (haut 94) montant vers
      > un zébu (haut. 19). Le chapiteau est surmonté des statues d'un couple.
      > La femme (haut. avec cruche 62) aux sexe et seins marqués, mains sur
      > le ventre yeux creusés. D'après les photographies il y avait des
      > perles incrustées. Sa coiffure en petites boules est figurée par des
      > rectangles en relief, boule sur l'occiput. La femme porte une cruche à
      > eau sur la tête. Homme (haut. 45) a une position et un type identique,
      > le sexe marqué (testicules, penis avec gland)
      > Usage : Dans le Sud de Madagascar, chez les Bara, Tanusi, Sakalava du
      > sud, ces poteaux aloalo sont dressés pour les gens morts loin de chez
      > eux et dont le cadavre n'a pu être ramené au tombeau de famille, et
      > pour les gens morts sans enfants.
      > Matériaux et Techniques : Bois sculpté. Monoxyle.
      > Dimensions d'encombrement (Hauteur x Largeur x Profondeur, Poids) :
      > 215 x 30 x 25 cm
      > http://www.quaibranly.fr/cc/pod/pleinecran.aspx?p=MQB+OBJETS&i=%5c287%5c287756.jpg&n=Reproduction+d'une+t%EAte+de+poteau+fun%E9raire
      > http://www.quaibranly.fr/cc/pod/pleinecran.aspx?p=MQB+OBJETS&i=%5c354%5c354652.jpg&n=Poteau+fun%E9raire
      > http://www.quaibranly.fr/cc/pod/pleinecran.aspx?p=MQB+OBJETS&i=%5c369%5c369148.jpg&n=Poteau+fun%E9raire
      > http://www.quaibranly.fr/cc/pod/pleinecran.aspx?p=MQB+OBJETS&i=%5c357%5c357066.jpg&n=Poteau+fun%E9raire
      > http://www.quaibranly.fr/cc/pod/pleinecran.aspx?p=MQB+OBJETS&i=%5c289%5c289434.jpg&n=Poteau+fun%E9raire
      > Always delighted by the unexpected, I wanted to include as well this
      > additional example which is surmounted by figures in an automobile:
      > http://www.quaibranly.fr/cc/pod/pleinecran.aspx?p=MQB+OBJETS&i=%5c289%5c289438.jpg&n=Poteau+fun%E9raire
      > Further, given the plethora of headrests, or appui-tetes -- among the
      > images on the QB database, I think it is worthwhile to consider the
      > appearance of related forms as elements of these particular personal
      > objects.
      > \
      > Also worth noting is the appearance of a figure quite similar to the
      > female which appears in your and comparative figures on this window
      > shutter attributed to the Betsileo....
      > N° inventaire : 71.1932.88.122
      > Ethnonyme(s) : Betsileo du sud
      > Toponyme(s) : Madagascar / Afrique orientale / Afrique
      > http://www.quaibranly.fr/cc/pod/pleinecran.aspx?p=MQB+OBJETS&i=%5c284%5c284199.jpg&n=Volet+de+fen%EAtre
      > Finally, in considering controversies which are current pertaining to
      > the gathering of cultural objects from Madagascar (as from other
      > locales), I am including an account by Hilary Bradt regarding the
      > disappearance of elements of traditional sculpture from the southern
      > village of Berenty. In addition to its poignancy, the description is
      > illuminating also for its reference to the (previous or partial)
      > existence of an exceptional (i.e., divergent from the regional and/or
      > cultural norm as well as of remarkable quality) sculpture that serves
      > to remind us -- as if we needed it! -- of the frequent difficulty in
      > establishing firm cultural attributions based on what is seemingly or
      > partially documented or hypothesized regarding the traditions of
      > particular peoples.
      > The Desecration
      > http://hilarybradt.com/published-articles/the-desecration-madagascar/
      > Lee
      > On Mar 14, 2010, at 9:51 AM, afrikhantiques wrote:
      > > Hello everyone,
      > > So I've been reading a lot of past posts from this group over this
      > > weekend and found a lot of useful and striking information on fake
      > > Songyes and generally fake works from Congo or just the African arts
      > > market in general. I guess there is always a spark of false hope
      > > that your "beautiful" Congo piece could be real when bought in Africa.
      > > I've also been doing a lot of research on Malagasy sculptures
      > > because I own this Malagasy Standing couple. I've been looking for
      > > references for comparisons and I've only found a similar pair in the
      > > MET Museum. Tried looking at older posts and didn't find anything
      > > from this group on Malagasy art either.
      > > Would love to hear your authenticity/value opinions on this Malagasy
      > > sculpture.
      > > I also still have a spark of hope that one of my songye statues (the
      > > light brown with terracotta dust patina) is real so would really
      > > like to hear other opinions on that too please.
      > > Thank you for your time always,
      > > Khan
      > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/African_Arts/photos/album/343870675/pic/list
      > >
      > >
      > >
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