- I agree with Andrew, I have seen quite a few of these decorative Luba kifwebe style masks over the past few years. Some have been pierced as if forMessage 1 of 6 , Feb 5, 2009View SourceI agree with Andrew, I have seen quite a few of these "decorative" Luba kifwebe style masks over the past few years. Some have been pierced as if for attachment some not and I've seen some with kaolim in the grooves and others like this without any colour decoration.I certainly don't think it's a bowl!Craig
--- On Thu, 5/2/09, G. Wood <gwood1945@...> wrote:
From: G. Wood <gwood1945@...>
Subject: Re: [African_Arts] Re: help to identify this mask, please
Date: Thursday, 5 February, 2009, 1:09 PMLee, I concur- I have a Taureg bowl with very similar designs on the outer portion, scribed around the entire surface as you describe. I too am puzzled about the style represented in the face. I think that there are some interesting wear and use patterns and wonder what the age of the bowl/mask is?<font face="comic sans ms">gwoodwishingyoutheb est</font>
From: Andrew <andrew@suagacollect ion.com>
To: African_Arts@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 7:00:24 PM
Subject: [African_Arts] Re: help to identify this mask, pleaseI am no expert but from the representation of mouth, eyes, shape and incised lines I
would hazard a guess that this is a stylised version of a round Kifwebe from the BaLuba in
the DRC (without the whitened parallel grooves)
"Examples of round kifwebe masks with broad noses, rectangular mouths, and flattened
crests, entered European collections by the second half of the nineteenth century. During
the first two decades of the twentieth century, the kifwebe masking tradition spread
throughout the Luba and Songye regions of southwest DRC"
--- In African_Arts@ yahoogroups. com, Lee Rubinstein <LeeRubinstein@ ...> wrote:
> Jim and Petra:
> It looks to me as if the object you have presented is likely well-
> hollowed wood, as is often seen in Tuareg wooden bowls which are
> generally quite thin. To my eye and mind, though, the object seems to
> be a strangely hybridized combination of influences: While the
> geometric incising seen toward outer the rim of the object resemble
> similar decoration which can be seen on Tuareg bowls, the facial
> features of the "mask" resemble a Baule kple kple mask!
> On Feb 4, 2009, at 3:42 PM, wojtkowskijames wrote:
> > We are having trouble identifying this mask - it seems too thick to
> > be a gourd but too thin to
> > be wood? See Photos 'Petra and James African Art':
> > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/African_ Arts/photos/ album/1681444734 /pic/list
> > Thanks for your help, Jim and Petra
- Hello Jim and Petra: Lee is right with the bowl It is the failed attempt to transform an old wooden Berber Cous-Cous bowl into an old Luba Kifwebe mask. It isMessage 2 of 6 , Feb 5, 2009View SourceHello Jim and Petra:
Lee is right with the bowl
It is the failed attempt to transform an old wooden Berber Cous-Cous
bowl into an old Luba Kifwebe mask. It is recently made in Morocco.
Last year I have seen some of these "masks" on the tourist markets of
Agadir, Essaouira and Marrakesh. It makes fun to ask the dealers,
which kind of mask it is and where it comes from. One gets funny
stories to hear.
It is amazing that in morocan villages you still can find beautiful
carved old bowls for some Euros and on the tourist markets you can see
tourists pay several hundred Euros for these allegedly "antique
masks". It`s a pity about the bowls...
But it is nevertheless a very interesting work for learning.
Normally the mouth and nose on the round Kifwebe masks is more
protuberant. But in the absence of thicker wood they have made a flat
relief. There is no point where mouth, nose or eyes are higher then
the radius of the bowl.
Compared with the work of the original bowl which is accurately carved
with fine cuted decoration the later carved face is awkwardly worked.
It is well to recognize that this work is made by two different hands.
Concerning the patina the inside of the bowl shows the original patina
of often washed wood and no wear or use patterns (from nose, cheek or
forehead) like normally the inside of used masks. The patina of the
inside is too remarkable different from the outside. After carving the
face the entire outside of the bowl is covered with a chemical glaze
or lacquer so that you cannot see "naked" wood.
I hope, this bad buy do not spoil your joy in African art. You are not
the first and not last who bought the wrong.