- Furthering this discussion just a bit... If a person falls into the famous person category, then if there are records that are not combined, trying toMessage 1 of 5 , Jun 8, 2010View SourceFurthering this discussion just a bit...
If a person falls into the "famous" person category, then if there are
records that are not combined, trying to combine them fails (this is
not a AQ problem, but is built into nFS).
There is currently a group in the FHL that is working with medieval
records (pre-1500) and making sure they are fully documented, etc.,
similar to what the former group was doing. It is primarily concerned
with Europe, so the far eastern records (China & Japan) that go way
back are handled normally. They also don't have the problems that the
European royalty has with respect to IOUS persons.
There are a couple of problems with trying to link to royalty via
existing data bases -- one is that most of them are not accurate with
respect to the distant ancestors. That's one of the reasons that the
unit exists that is currently working with these records. They are
going for accuracy and not notoriety (which is where most of the
records lose their accuracy).
A much fun as "A Knight's Tale" was, there are some points of accuracy
represented in it. One of them is that the genealogies for these
knights were often "created" fiction, just to get the people into the
games. These records of royalty connections (Heraldry) are problematic
at best -- the unit is substantiating where they can with things like
landed gentry, and known royal lines established by the skimpy history
that remains of those times.
The problem is further compounded much closer to home. I have a line
that was originally connected into one of the court families of
England going back to the early 1500s. A cousin connected our line to
the Rhode Island line (which is connected to the English family) in
order to become a qualified member of the D.A.R.
Research has proven that there is no connection to the Rhode Island
family and, in fact, a published county history has often been quoted
to substantiate the connection. But that history, if read properly,
does not establish a connection between the families, only that there
were families of the same name living in Eastern Pennsylvania and in
Rhode Island. Common surnames and common given names are always
problems and that's what happened there.
So, my advice is to prove everything, otherwise, you have mythology.
Published family histories can only be used as guides, unless they are
well sourced (and documented). Even histories that I formerly trusted
have turned out to have mistakes in the families, dates, and places.
An author of a history was not beyond copying data from another author
without substantiating the information.
Since this involved newFamilySearch, we are talking about the
possibility of Temple work coming from such record gathering. I am not
connected to the British court family. Therefore, I have turned my
research back toward me, and believe me, I'm turning up a lot of names
with good substantiated records that need to have their work done. And
I started back only five generations (counting myself) and have yet to
finish finding all the descendants of that first Huber set of parents.
And that is only tracking the lines down to where the 95-year rule
AQ is working great for me and between researching on Ancestry.com and
state archives, along with graveyard records, I am able to
consistently find new relatives for which the temple work has not been
- I absolutely agree with all comments so far. Accurate information for European royalty is very hit and miss. My connection however is fairly well documentedMessage 2 of 5 , Jun 8, 2010View SourceI absolutely agree with all comments so far. Accurate information for European royalty is very hit and miss. My connection however is fairly well documented historically. Of course there is a lot of mythology and legend too, especially when one of my research lines included King Arthur and Uther! My medieval work is mostly curiosity since almost everything before 1500 in my family appears to have temple work completed. I just hate loose ends, so I really want to have all work in sync. I have tons of cousins since 1500 that I have been steadily submitting and doing work for. I don't know if the statistics are accurate or not, but our Temple President said that 94% of the earth's population has been born since 1820. If this is so, then it is easy to see why we all tie together within 6 generations (or so they say.) My high school students freak out when I tell them that they will marry a cousin, and that given enough time for research, I will be able to show that everyone in the classroom is related, with very few exceptions.
EATIS IN PACE DATA GESSIS (Go in peace and may all your data be processed)
- Bob: I think I was able to create your situation, and I didn t see any problems. It took a while for this record to load, but I was able to link KN8N-JG7 to myMessage 3 of 5 , Jun 9, 2010View SourceBob:
I think I was able to create your situation, and I didn't see any
problems. It took a while for this record to load, but I was able to
link KN8N-JG7 to my record, then exchange data with the record using AQ.
My guess is that when you saw a "not responding" message (which means
that AQ is waiting on NFS to provide some requested data), that you gave
up rather than let AQ continue to work with NFS. Waiting a little longer
should have allowed NFS to complete the requests made by AQ via the API
and provide you with results you were expecting.
> Gaylon, here is an example of the problem as you requested.
> Henry III Plantagenet, King of England, born 1 Oct 1207 and died 16 Nov 1270 Winchester Palace, England - married to Eleanor of Provence.
> If you chose the upload and try to sync, 47 possibles appear. Not too long a search to obtain the list, less than 2 minutes on high speed cable. The first NFS-ID which appears is KNQB-KYH. If you look this one up in NFS and ask to see the combined records for just this one ID, the system says that 1195 records were combined. If you click on this particular record, it just sits and spins until you end up with a no response message on AQ. The unfortunate thing about European royalty is that this is more or less a universal problem. I currently have about 516 names that give the same frustrating result. Unfortunately the ID I would like to add is already on the list so hitting the search button and entering the PID didn't do anything. I have the latest version of AQ. Don't know if it matters or not, but my file is PAF. Why? Before I purchased AQ, I was using another 3rd party product (which will remain unnamed) to synchronize PAF to NFS. I liked it because of the abilit
> y to choose many records for searching at a time and liked the returned format (I have nearly 50,000 records so time was important.
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